Itachi is healthy, alive, 100% fit.
Frieza is in-character
Itachi is serious but still in-character
No knowledge and preparation
Restriction: No planet busting
Genjutsu would work in this battle
Itachi has Shisui MS
Speed equalized
Who will win?
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Death beam, Itachi dead,
Or uses telekinesis to explode Itachi
Or blitzes him.
Sigh, we've definitely hit the bottom of the barrel.
Actually leaning towards Itachi with the speed equalization and Frieza's usual personality..
Come on. We want to unban DBZ by making good threads with worthwhile discussions and debates, not mismatches.
Except the fact that massively hypersonic characters like Frieza Saga Piccolo couldn't react to his death beams. Itachi dies before knowing what is going on.
Maybe we should ban DB if this is the result.
@mysticmedivh: @pokemondefender: Speed is equalized though, with genjutsu and hax Itachi might just win(especially considering Frieza's habits)
@thevivas: What does genjutsu do for him? Say he crucifies him like he did Kakashi, then what? Frieza's first reaction to being incapacitated would be get all "f&ck you!" about it and power up, or god forbid a 360° ki burst, accidentally/intentionally vaporizing the real Itachi anyway lol.
IMO, considering he has the raw power to basically use mountains as weapons with his mind, OOC he could beat Itachi's eye hax by looking right at him...and crushing him into mush before he can think, much less activate a genjutsu.
@ssjbatdan: not this Dbz character lol. Onepunch man would be a better match
@mysticmedivh: @pokemondefender: Speed is equalized though, with genjutsu and hax Itachi might just win(especially considering Frieza's habits)
Speed equalization for movements. Not their attacks, either way. Frieza flicks a finger, Itachi does genjutsu, Frieza falls under it, Itachi explodes.
Good god.
@thevivas: What does genjutsu do for him? Say he crucifies him like he did Kakashi, then what? Frieza's first reaction to being incapacitated would be get all "f&ck you!" about it and power up, or god forbid a 360° ki burst, accidentally/intentionally vaporizing the real Itachi anyway lol.
IMO, considering he has the raw power to basically use mountains as weapons with his mind, OOC he could beat Itachi's eye hax by looking right at him...and crushing him into mush before he can think, much less activate a genjutsu.
Tsukuyomi can actually cause the death of the victim. Check the fight between Itachi and Kakashi. Itachi is the one who chose to spare him.
Anyway, In-character Freeza wouldn't even know that he is under genjutsu Itachi could fool him into using his own attack on himself like he did to deidara and by the time frieza realizes what's going he would already be cut to pieces by him own DD.
Death Battle has already proved that Toph > Kage Gaara, meaning they don't have much durability.
Frieza wins easily.
@pokemondefender: Or he's going to talk/gloat, like he always does, and end up letting Itachi win. You're talking about a guy who could have nuked the place but rather chose to just play with his opponents, that kind of attitude will cost him against someone like Itachi.
@pokemondefender: Or he's going to talk/gloat, like he always does, and end up letting Itachi win. You're talking about a guy who could have nuked the place but rather chose to just play with his opponents, that kind of attitude will cost him against someone like Itachi.
Except ya know, when he transformed into his final form he started firing Deathbeams to kill Dende and Gohan.
Or instantly spear-headed Krillin.
Or rapid Deathbeam Piccolo.
Or tries to instant kill Goku with death beams, but gets them all blocked.
He only talks/gloats around people who actually give him a challenge or has history with (IE Vegeta). He instantly kills spineless fodder or opponents he knows nothing of.
And that is literally Itachi, he's weak fodder that Frieza knows nothing of.
This is bait and i'm falling for it, but I don't care, this is ridiculous.
Dende was healing people, can't have that now.
Gohan was proving to have considerable power, easily classifiable as a threat.
Still talked before fighting the rest of them.
You're talking about a guy who chased Krillen through a series of crevices and lost his tail instead of just blowing the place up.
@ssjbatdan: Are you trolling me?
He raises his hand, kaboom there goes the area.
@ssjbatdan: "If genjutsu absolutely affects Freeza, he'd be mentally exhausted, and at best in a similar type of mental state as he was physically when he "tanked" the spirit bomb."
-You mean royally PO'd and going for the kill without hesitation, via fingerpointing?
"He'd be left in a state close to hospitalization, if not in hospitalization, for days"
-Even if hes exhausted beyond the point of being able to become angry, Im pretty sure he'd still have the strength to form an unfavorable opinion of Itachi before pointing at him to death. Or glaring too hard. Like summon a mountain-sized rock out of the earth hard.
"meaning Itachi could burn him with"
-oh no, it's coming...
"amaterasu"
-...and there it is. I mean, really? The stuff seemingly caused zero discomfort to most of the people caught in it? Nagato even smiled as it...slowly didn't really burn his face for a while. Even flaming discarded body parts just sit there, totally not burning. It's not so much threatening as it is annoying. Even if it does burn forever, Itachi would still die first.
"until he ran out of *chakra* and died."
-...yes.
"However, amaterasu takes a ton of chakra and causes blindness, while Freeza has a ton of chi as well. For Itachi to go blind here would be too out of character because he has to help Sasuke."
-I'm struggling to see how that matters here (whether Itachi is blind or not)...
"So, Itachi wins by knockout, but cannot technically kill Freeza."
-I'm not saying Itachi doesn't get the first shot due to Freeza's nature, but the instant Itachi does something to tick him off he's going to get one shotted by something incredible insignificant (an attack meant to be a mere display, the powerup on its own, a finger point, a dirty look/TK) before Frieza even really gets started, leaving him feeling discontent and empty inside. At best, in the unlikely chance Itachi does open on a guy...type-thing that he knows literally nothing about and only just met with tsukiyomi instead of a simpler genjutsu...controlling Frieza's senses is one thing, but I don't see how that stops Frieza from power-splurging all over the place, even if he's somehow rendered immobile (I don't see someone as tenacious and arrogant as Frieza simply passing out...Kakashi doesn't have nearly the blind hate-feuled drive to win that Frieza has, because he's not a tyrannical psychopath lol). If anything, it gives him a pretty good reason to get serious quick. It seems counter-productive, like poking a grizzly.
But in reality he wouldn't opt to open with tsukiyomi on a stranger, even one he wanted to kill. I'll give him 1/10, if he used that and made Freeza think they'd been friends for years before stabbing him with Totsuka...which unrealistically requires him to realize how screwed he is off the bat. And equally unrealistically requires Frieza to understand the value of "friendship", and the difference between that and "total subjugation".
@andr413: Freeza accidentally kills him while asking for directions.
Death Battle has already proved that Toph > Kage Gaara, meaning they don't have much durability.
Frieza wins easily.
Do not ever use Death Battle as a source of reference. It's a popularity contest these days. Anyways, Frieza does one shot.
well in character freeza could see someone with absolutely no power level and just destroy the whole area for giggles.
the thing is even in in character matches, we must assume both are doing absolutely everything in their power to win. this isnt a manga so they arent gonna start conversing and discussing backstories.
you all are also forgetting Freeza's TK, which he used to levitate and kill krillin. whats stopping him levitating and then sending a laser through itachis head?
@andr413: Freeza accidentally kills him while asking for directions.
I legitimately laughed so hard, you indeed are comedian.
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