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#1 Edited by DeathByAnts (400 posts) - - Show Bio


VS

Rules:

  • The X-Men have morals
  • Uchiha brothers and Danzo are bloodlusted and morals off
  • Danzo's Izanagi does not consume a sharingan
  • Orochimaru is aiding the Uchihas and Danzo with edo tensei and his white Zetsu army
  • Win by BFR, Death, or incapacitation.
  • Original X-men

#2 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathbyants: Which X-men? like a specific crew or all of them?

#3 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (9930 posts) - - Show Bio

You have to be specific about which X men because if your mean all of them ever

if that the case X MEN LOLWTFSTOMP

#4 Edited by DeathByAnts (400 posts) - - Show Bio

The Original X-men.

EDIT: Actually to help the Xmen they get up to 90's

#5 Posted by DeathByAnts (400 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#6 Edited by Abocado (666 posts) - - Show Bio

If Prof. X is not with them, they lose

#7 Posted by Kobra678 (199 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't they all get mindraped

#8 Posted by Ironshinobi88 (1109 posts) - - Show Bio

Professor X and Phoenix would pwn most of them, I dont see what Edo Tensei is supposed to do here? seal powers or seal people?

#9 Posted by DeathByAnts (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@ironshinobi88: Edo tensei is basically reanimation of the dead. Considering Itachi is in edo tensei, he does not have a brain to be mind controlled. The other two however are able to be mind controlled.

#10 Edited by terry2012 (4757 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathbyants: Yes he do have a brain to be mined controlled. All Edo Tensei do have. He was being controlled by Kabuto, but broke free of him with Shisui technique. In fact, they do not have to control their brains but their movements is good enough.

#11 Posted by DeathByAnts (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@terry2012: Its not really their brain it is the hosts brain. The person summoned is controlled by the scroll inserted in the "hosts" brain

#12 Edited by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean's TP > their genjutsu

FACT

#13 Posted by OverLordArhas (7410 posts) - - Show Bio
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#14 Edited by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@overlordarhas: She has mindf*cked non-humans and those with proven TP defense, the uchihas are bullies who use genjutsu on those who cannot fight back. They never fought with those on 'equal' terms, always inconsistent. Plus she does not depend on others having chakra for her mind powers to work.

off topic:

Oh, and **** anyone that says everything has chakra, **** you

#15 Posted by OverLordArhas (7410 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: Don't get your panties up in a bunch.

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#16 Edited by terry2012 (4757 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathbyants: That is not the only way. Because Kabuto had a different way to control them. His is different from Orochimaru. And also, Obito is different from them both. He control them with his Sharingan or Rinnegan and Chakra rods. As in truth, the chakra rods is there to hold down the tails beast. If he uses the scrolls it still mind control. Because he strip them of their free will.

#17 Edited by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@overlordarhas: the last one was not to you, just experience with nardo debaters who did not put in equivalency and expect genjutsu to work on beings w/o a chakra system. It is for all nardo fans.

#18 Edited by OverLordArhas (7410 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok.

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#19 Edited by DeathByAnts (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: Obviously given the nature of the fight their Genjutsu would work considering the equivalent of chakra is basically "life energy". Even if Itachi or Sasuke's Genjutsu would not work on the X-Men, Danzo's Genjutsu can still work considering he casts it on himself.

@terry2012: I understand, thats why I put Orichimaru's Edo tensei in the rules lol

#20 Edited by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathbyants: what did I just say?

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/uchihas-vs-jla-x-men-avengers-team-magneto-746308/

refer to that as why the idea is bunkum, unless OP says equivalence is on

#21 Posted by DeathByAnts (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: Yes, the equivalence of chakra in Naruto is in effect during the crossover fight. No matter the case Danzo will be the most difficult target for the X-men to take down anyways.

#22 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathbyants: Good, then mention that in the OP next time

TP still can fight him, Optic beams would fry his summons and Iceman is an omega mutie (as in absolute zero)

Edo seems that you rig in in team Naruto's favor

#23 Posted by DeathByAnts (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: It shouldn't be impossible for the X-men, Itachi has to be BFR'ed or Incapacitated since he is in Edo. I wouldn't put that past the X-men. Danzo is the main threat.

Just to give a quick summary on his abilities for those who are unfamiliar: Danzo's izanagi is Genjutsu that he casts on himself.

When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own state of existence, but it is normally only active for the briefest of moments.

While the user remains physically real while fighting, this technique is capable of turning any occurrence including injuries and even death inflicted upon themselves while the technique is active into mere "illusions". Whenever the user receives a fatal injury, he or she automatically fades away as though they were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality; physically real and unscathed.

#24 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathbyants: Yes, but as with all justus he needs to think to activate

Iceman can flash freeze them

Quickdraw

#25 Posted by oceanmaster21 (7655 posts) - - Show Bio

xmen wins

#26 Edited by OmgOmgWtfWtf (6866 posts) - - Show Bio

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#27 Posted by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

The way I see it TP > Genjutsu.

Strong illusions and impressive mind fxcks, but TP can do the same and more. Telepaths like Jean Grey and Professor X can have their way with most of them, they could even use the Zetsu army as their own.

I would love to add Emma, but if it's just the X-Men from the 90's then I guess she is out, IIRC she joined the X-Men near 2001.

#28 Edited by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: first off you are wrong, sharingan genjutsu work from a chemical I the brain uchihas get after something traumatic happens to them, not chakra. Also they do not bully, for they had honor too. And current sasuke destroys them - with his bro they need no more help

#29 Posted by SlimJ87D (9262 posts) - - Show Bio

The way I see it TP > Genjutsu.

Strong illusions and impressive mind fxcks, but TP can do the same and more. Telepaths like Jean Grey and Professor X can have their way with most of them, they could even use the Zetsu army as their own.

I would love to add Emma, but if it's just the X-Men from the 90's then I guess she is out, IIRC she joined the X-Men near 2001.

Could you even TP a Edo though? They're pretty much zombies with a spirit controlling a corps. So I guess it's like fighting a ghost.

#30 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: iceman isn't faster than itachi and his genjutsu, and sasuke either, or anyone here

#31 Edited by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt:

first off you are wrong, sharingan genjutsu work from a chemical I the brain uchihas get after something traumatic happens to them, not chakra. Also they do not bully, for they had honor too. And current sasuke destroys them - with his bro they need no more help

  • do show me where it is exactly said on panel that it is chemical
  • traumatic? naruto who had it worse grew up to be a better person
  • honor? oh yeah, stabbing karin seemed honorable at the time
  • help? you want stomp thread

you never read any x-men comics huh?

@slimj87d

Could you even TP a Edo though?

Itachi did that to himself

#32 Edited by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: naruto isn't Uchiha, he doesn't get the sharingan, and I am actually caught up in naruto, it was several chapters back, the hokages explained how the sharingan worked, I'll try to find it. Yeah, I said had honor, they are no longer a clan anymore, and stabbing Karin had to do with self honor, samurai killed people to retain their honor.

Stop making assumptions.

#33 Edited by SlimJ87D (9262 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx said:

@18hunt:

first off you are wrong, sharingan genjutsu work from a chemical I the brain uchihas get after something traumatic happens to them, not chakra. Also they do not bully, for they had honor too. And current sasuke destroys them - with his bro they need no more help

  • do show me where it is exactly said on panel that it is chemical
  • traumatic? naruto who had it worse grew up to be a better person
  • honor? oh yeah, stabbing karin seemed honorable at the time
  • help? you want stomp thread

you never read any x-men comics huh?

@slimj87d

Could you even TP a Edo though?

Itachi did that to himself

Huh? I was asking if Telepathy would even work on Itachi because he's a Edo in this topic and a Edo is a spirit possessing a dead body where the original host is sacrificed. So it's kind of like fighting a ghost. I don't think Marvel telepaths have controlled ghost before.

So Telepathy might not be the deciding factor here.

That being said Itachi has infinity stamina and chakra and can hold susannoo forever without harm coming to his eyes or himself. He could spam all his eye techniques like he has EMS also because again he's a Edo. So he's quite powerful.

#34 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimj87d:

not 'ghosts' but revenants (think jason voorhees from friday the 13) as they are still corporeal. They still need limbs to move, they think and they utilize chakra. It should work.

@18hunt:

the other threads had scans about chakra circulations and genjutsu, you are saying that it will simply work just because. Chakra only exists in naruto-verse, if you want to bawl about chi or life-energy then leave.

they are not samurai

you did not answer my question about reading X-men, this is a comic board dude (READ ONE)

#35 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

@nerx: first off you are wrong, sharingan genjutsu work from a chemical I the brain uchihas get after something traumatic happens to them, not chakra. Also they do not bully, for they had honor too. And current sasuke destroys them - with his bro they need no more help

Prove it

#36 Edited by OmgOmgWtfWtf (6866 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimj87d: The difference between a ghost and an astral spirit is non-existent within Marvel. Jean would be able to telepathically assault Itachi because he still has a mind. If you truly needed a brain to be assaulted, then people like the Shadow King and Silver Surfer should be impervious to telepathy.

#37 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: now must we argue like third graders or mere children's use look up sharingan on the naruto pedia, although it doesn't hae the full description, if you want to really see it, catch up on naruto. I can't show you cuz I'm on an ipad.

#38 Edited by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: I simply used samurai as an example, big deal.

Yes I said dont make assumptions. I actually have (they're my brothers though)

And the chakra current has nothing to do with the sharingan, like I just said

Ad I don't have to get out or listen to you trying to start something.

Also the belief in chakra is throughout Asia (especially Japan) and used in avatar, the chakra current was not created by naruto, but people similar to Confucius, but with different ideas

#39 Edited by SlimJ87D (9262 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx said:

@slimj87d:

not 'ghosts' but revenants (think jason voorhees from friday the 13) as they are still corporeal. They still need limbs to move, they think and they utilize chakra. It should work.

@18hunt:

the other threads had scans about chakra circulations and genjutsu, you are saying that it will simply work just because. Chakra only exists in naruto-verse, if you want to bawl about chi or life-energy then leave.

they are not samurai

you did not answer my question about reading X-men, this is a comic board dude (READ ONE)

The bodies are actually converted to ash or a ceramic like material. They're almost made of sand so their not really limbs either. It's like ashes or something like that, everything gets burned up and disintegrates.

I really don't know if telepathy would work. I'm sure a telepath has encountered a ghost in marvel before.

When the disappear you just see the bodies collapse into dust.

#40 Edited by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by SlimJ87D (9262 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimj87d: The difference between a ghost and an astral spirit is non-existent within Marvel. Jean would be able to telepathically assault Itachi because he still has a mind. If you truly needed a brain to be assaulted, then people like the Shadow King and Silver Surfer should be impervious to telepathy.

I don't know about this. It sounds too much like an assumption. Silver Surfer is not dead though. He's still alive.

Itachi is a dead spirit that is controlling a dust cloud of ash. I think we need to discuss this further and start finding evidence to prove telepathy works.

#42 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: I just answered your question a few posts ago, look up smart one. You are getting annoying. Like I said, it was when the hokages were explaining things, such as what a village is and how the uchihas operated, and how the sharingan worked. Go back to those chapters if you want to read it...

#43 Edited by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

It was a bit before the first hokage started to tell his story, I believe

The honor had to do with nindo, the ninja way, which all ninjas should have if their own, just as samurai have bushido. Similar as I said, get your facts strait, you're acting like a third grader. Better get your knowledge up on what ur talking about. E cause I have a response to what ur saying, while you are trying to be a smart Alec, but I guesss its not working :D now, good day sir.

#44 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimj87d: They can still be sealed, namely how gaara used sand pyramid on 2nd mizukage and hwo deidara/sasori are captured

this alone can solo narutoverse

@18hunt:

IT IS A BIG DEAL, nothing to do with the argument

Debate on yer own!

Sharingan genjutsu affects the chakra current in the brain, unless you claim to be more legit than kishimoto

Chakra in naruto =/= chakra in real world

Not all of asia, stop stereotyping

china uses Qi

japan uses reiki

India uses chakra

#45 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt:

you never read any x-men comics huh?

answer that one please, instead of spouting how you were on track with nardo (that was my original question which you blatantly ignored)

Hokages never explain about chakra, kakashi and jiraiya did.

the history did not tell about the functioning of genjutsu (just crap about how the uchiha is an 'evil bloodline' by the second hokage)

The issue here is GENJUTSU

it needs chakra

#46 Edited by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

Are you blind? I just explained nindo and bushido, but someone was to arrogant to listen/read what I had to say. Don't be a baby and act like a man. I never said all of Asia, I'm not stereotyping, do you even know what that means smart one? I said parts of Asia, can you read? And many regions and areas, and time periods have different beliefs, yeah, so etching you learn in sixth grade, big deal...

Don't be arrogant and ignorant like this, okay kid?

#47 Edited by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

I already answered, how dumb are you... What is your problem? I answered that, and I told you I answered it once or twice, go back to kindergarten and learn to read genius.

Up I said a bit before that stuff...

And it takes chakra, but is also activated and effective due to some brain chemical.

#48 Edited by SlimJ87D (9262 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx: Yes they can be sealed. I'm sure if Danzo, Orochimaru and Sasuke all got TP'd then the X-men could just have them seal Itachi. But Itachi could kill all these guys with his susannoo. This pretty much becomes Itachi vs X-Men.

The X-Men probably win this thanks to TP and having Team 1 gang up on Itachi.

#49 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

nindo and bushido have nothing to do with your fan-fic naruto code of honor

Xmen , you did not answer in yes or did you answer with no

if you only read manga then shame on you

Kishimoto never said brain chemical nor is it ever mentioned in nardo, that is fan-fiction

#50 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimj87d: That and the original five comes with Jean who carries the Phoenix, that would be a stomp

thanks for being reasonable

Iceman / Jean says no

Omega and phoenix host