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#1 Posted by Sushrut_Patil (315 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry Allen New 52

Location : Stark Tower

BFR : off

Morals : off

Tony has 7 days to prep.

#2 Posted by BigCimmerian (8309 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony wins, he's too fast for Flash.

#3 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

-_-

#4 Edited by reaverlation (15842 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony wins, he's too fast for Flash.

...no

But possibly the 7 days prep can maybe give the win but I'll still back Barry

#5 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep,I think Tony can find a way to cut off access to his Speed Force or have a disruption field that is similar to Vibe's powers.

Without prep,I don't even think I need to comment on who wins (hint: Any version of the Flash)

#6 Posted by Geno (281 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian: Hah!

On a serious note, has Tony ever tangled with speedsters during his illustrious career? Not that many are on the same level as Barry, but it would give an idea as to how he may utilize those 7 days of prep.

#7 Posted by Noone301994 (4717 posts) - - Show Bio

I think with a week of prep and morals off Tony could figure out a way to stop and beat Flash.

#8 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12184 posts) - - Show Bio

I think with a week of prep and morals off Tony could figure out a way to stop and beat Flash.

elaborate

#9 Posted by Super_Buck (1591 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash could end Iron Man as if he were a statue in time.

#10 Posted by Noone301994 (4717 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: I don't know. Maybe he could create some type of device that messes with his powers. A power drainer of some kind. Or he could trap Barry inside of a forcefield and change the settings on the shield so that vibrational frequency changes and adapts every picosecond so that Flash can't phase through the shield. Or he could use that machine that BFR's to the negative zone. If Tony knew that Flash moved at the speed of light he would be extremely careful and would likely go invisible and use illusions in order to trick and trap Barry.

#11 Posted by BigCimmerian (8309 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian said:

Tony wins, he's too fast for Flash.

...no

But possibly the 7 days prep can maybe give the win but I'll still back Barry

Why not, Tony has armor which is fast.

#12 Posted by reaverlation (15842 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation said:

@bigcimmerian said:

Tony wins, he's too fast for Flash.

...no

But possibly the 7 days prep can maybe give the win but I'll still back Barry

Why not, Tony has armor which is fast.

You are joking,right?

#14 Posted by dorukesin (5961 posts) - - Show Bio

not funny

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#15 Posted by Ultragreenboy (1999 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep,I think Tony can find a way to cut off access to his Speed Force or have a disruption field that is similar to Vibe's powers.

Without prep,I don't even think I need to comment on who wins (hint: Any version of the Flash)

I dont think that tony could but its barry not wally so it is possible

#16 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side said:

With prep,I think Tony can find a way to cut off access to his Speed Force or have a disruption field that is similar to Vibe's powers.

Without prep,I don't even think I need to comment on who wins (hint: Any version of the Flash)

I dont think that tony could but its barry not wally so it is possible

Well considering his prep feats,I don't doubt that he can build some sort of machine that disrupts his powers a la Vibe,but at the same time,I have to see more of Tony's prep feats

#17 Posted by brainstorm01 (1366 posts) - - Show Bio

im can creat some device that slows down time.then it wolud be likd if flash is facing zoom

Poor flash

#18 Posted by brainstorm01 (1366 posts) - - Show Bio

im can creat some device that slows down time.then it wolud be likd if flash is facing zoom

Poor flash

#19 Posted by reaverlation (15842 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@brainstorm01: @twix_right_side: How would Tony prep for Barry when he has no info on Barry or the speed force?

That's what prep is for.

It's why Batman can win against a lot of out-of-universe characters with prep. On the battle forums,I think that it's assumed that they live in a universe where the information is available to them,and they can observe them,etc... and if they have the feats to support it,then it can be said that they can win by building something with preparation,or by doing some sort of mumbo jumbo. Prep basically equals plot for many characters.

#21 Posted by FireThunder (41 posts) - - Show Bio

new 52 barry allen can calculate the conclusion of his action so he should be able to know what iron man prepared for flash. Flash wins.

#22 Posted by ShadoVvlite (1016 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: But prep doesn't mean a person is allowed to take first action before battle.

#23 Posted by reaverlation (15842 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: No that's not how prep is.The OP has to say that Tony has information on Barry.It's a shared universe when it comes to the battle.

#24 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: But prep doesn't mean a person is allowed to take first action before battle.

With prep,I don't even think that he needs to.

@twix_right_side: No that's not how prep is.The OP has to say that Tony has information on Barry.It's a shared universe when it comes to the battle.

But that's not how prep is used in 99% of the battles on this site from what I've seen. 0.0

I think that knowledge of the other character comes with prep. Otherwise,it's basically useless since,if the universe is only shared when the fight actually happens,then it is pretty much useless for every fight.

#25 Posted by reaverlation (15842 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: It's not useless without knowledge. Batman,even without knowledge,can still be formidable with prep.Tony with prep can bring in more suits or use one of his stronger suits for this battle. The knowledge has to be given in the OP.

#26 Posted by BigCimmerian (8309 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: @reaverlation: Tony recently fought agains Phoenix Force, phoenix can travel universe billions of times faster than light and Tony was faster than it. Flash is too slow for this.

#27 Edited by reaverlation (15842 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: @reaverlation: Tony recently fought agains Phoenix Force, phoenix can travel universe billions of times faster than light and Tony was faster than it. Flash is too slow for this.

I don't even...

#28 Edited by ShadoVvlite (1016 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: No, what i meant was that in a battle with two opposing sides, none of them are allowed to take action before a fight begins, right? Unless stated otherwise. So Tony won't be able to use his tools beforehand and only be able to use them at the exact time the fight begins.

#29 Posted by ComicsrulebutDBZdoes2 (1722 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off and prep? Hmmm that sounds fair ironman curbstomps destroys planet bang flash is dead

#30 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: It's not useless without knowledge. Batman,even without knowledge,can still be formidable with prep.Tony with prep can bring in more suits or use one of his stronger suits for this battle. The knowledge has to be given in the OP.

Well what good does it serve him if he has no knowledge of the character,yet he still has prep? Basically,my question is:

What is prep gonna do when he doesn't know who he's fighting? Or what he's fighting? How will it help when,by the time the universe is shared,that it will be too late to prepare something.

I always thought that knowledge came with prep,since it is usually how everyone else on the battle boards use it. Must have been my mistake :p

#31 Posted by w0nd (3418 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry isn't exactly stupid. He invented a ring that compresses body armor inside of it.

#32 Posted by Iragexcudder (4899 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman potentially solos.

#33 Edited by reaverlation (15842 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: Bring in what they have like the examples I said.Tony just brings in more suits or puts a more powerful one for example

#34 Edited by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

Still flash

#35 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: @reaverlation: Tony recently fought agains Phoenix Force, phoenix can travel universe billions of times faster than light and Tony was faster than it. Flash is too slow for this.

You have to be joking,dude.

Flash is the fastest character in comics. He can outreact and outrace Tony any day of the week. He also didn't fight against the Phoenix. He built a suit that broke it.

@twix_right_side: No, what i meant was that in a battle with two opposing sides, none of them are allowed to take action before a fight begins, right? Unless stated otherwise. So Tony won't be able to use his tools beforehand and only be able to use them at the exact time the fight begins.

Couldn't he create a suit of armor or a device that mimics Vibe's powers and disrupts his connection to the Speed Force automatically by creating a type of constant bubble? I mean,if it's a type of device that he has to activate manually,well,he loses. But I don't think Tony will resort to that.

#36 Edited by ShadoVvlite (1016 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: You don't really need to know who your against in order to prep. Let's say the OP is just normal Ironman Vs. That indicates it's base Tony with his usual equipment, but with prep he is able to do things outside of base character, such as gather more advanced armors.

Couldn't he create a suit of armor or a device that mimics Vibe's powers and disrupts his connection to the Speed Force automatically by creating a type of constant bubble? I mean,if it's a type of device that he has to activate manually,well,he loses. But I don't think Tony will resort to that.

[Edit] But that was when Barry was distracted. Vibrations travel only at the speed of sound.

#37 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

We have to use things Tony has used in comics. Can't assume he can make something he hasn't

#38 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: You don't really need to know who your against in order to prep. Let's say the OP is just normal Ironman Vs. That indicates it's base Tony with his usual equipment, but with prep he is able to do things outside of base character, such as gather more advanced armors.

But all of that is useless in this fight. I understand what you are saying,but prep is usually used (from what I've seen) to help you better prepare against a specific threat with special,specific assistance.

#39 Edited by zaied (811 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash wins easily with morals off.

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#40 Edited by ShadoVvlite (1016 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: But most of the time you see prep against people who already have prior knowledge of each other or the OP states "prep" and "knowledge" of opponent. Preparing just means to gather necessities that one wouldn't usually bring.

#41 Posted by NinjaWarrior268 (1499 posts) - - Show Bio

It could come down to whether or not Flash could get through his armor before the signal from Tony's eye reaches his brain telling him Flash is there. Would Jarvis' processor be fast enough to target Flash with lasers as fast as light?

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#42 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side: But most of the time you see prep against people who already have prior knowledge of each other or the OP states "prep" and "knowledge" of opponent. Preparing just means to gather necessities that one wouldn't usually bring.

Well if that's the case,then Flash

#43 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

It could come down to whether or not Flash could get through his armor before the signal from Tony's eye reaches his brain telling him Flash is there. Would Jarvis' processor be fast enough to target Flash with lasers as fast as light?

Flash can move faster than that,and faster than Tony can even react.

#44 Posted by dondave (37430 posts) - - Show Bio

Henry

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#46 Edited by BigCimmerian (8309 posts) - - Show Bio
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#48 Posted by Jacthripper (2731 posts) - - Show Bio

Only way tony wins is if he sits in his armor, above a frictionless surface

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#49 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2321 posts) - - Show Bio
#50 Posted by BigCimmerian (8309 posts) - - Show Bio

Only way tony wins is if he sits in his armor, above a frictionless surface

What if I tell you that Flash can run in air and in space?