Iron Man vs Wonder Man

Is Ironman allowed to use his Extremis powers to use external devices i.e. Satellites, in this battle ?

Iron Man.

Iron Man has been doing alot of upgrades to his suit lately to make him feel better about Extremis still being out there somewhere.

Iron Man ftw..

"Iron Man has been doing alot of upgrades to his suit lately to make him feel better about Extremis still being out there somewhere."

"Is Ironman allowed to use his Extremis powers to use external devices i.e. Satellites, in this battle ?"

"the creator said:

"Is Ironman allowed to use his Extremis powers to use external devices i.e. Satellites, in this battle ?"

Wonderman wouldn't have much of a chance then."

So, without his extremis power, could Wonderman?

"So, without his extremis power, could Wonderman?"

Wonderman has stood up to Ironman before.  Tony described him as "it's like fighting the hulk.  I wouldn't want to do this for long.  One more shot like that and I'm done"  That was in another set of armor in West Coast Avengers.  I think WM can take what IM dishes out long enough to get in a couple of hits, and that should be all  he needs to damage Tony's armor.  With extremis armor, Thor cracked his armor just by tapping it with Mjolnir, and WM's fists are compared to being hit with Mjolnir.  If a tap can crack tony's current armor, a full on hit from WM's fists should do more damage.

"Wonderman has stood up to Ironman before.  Tony described him as "it's like fighting the hulk.  I wouldn't want to do this for long.  One more shot like that and I'm done"  That was in another set of armor in West Coast Avengers.  I think WM can take what IM dishes out long enough to get in a couple of hits, and that should be all  he needs to damage Tony's armor.  With extremis armor, Thor cracked his armor just by tapping it with Mjolnir, and WM's fists are compared to being hit with Mjolnir.  If a tap can crack tony's current armor, a full on hit from WM's fists should do more damage."

Do you mean when Sentry was enraged and punched Simon?  I remember him actually not being knocked out and making a comment about sentry right after the punch (he said "he's lost it" so not knocked out).  I'll go back an re-read just to be sure, but I'm fairly certain.  I'm sure IM has something for everyone, but that doesn't mean they can't over come it, they are Avengers after all, and anything is possible.  IM is faster flying, yes, but what about reaction time.  As far as she hulk, all I can say is thor tapped him with mjolnir and cracked his armor, simon should be able to do the same.  She Hulk is a better fighter, but Simon hits harder.  I'm at work so, it's hard for me to double check now.  If Namor can withstand what IM dishes out (he said to tony "you've never invented a weapon that has any affect on me") so can Simon.  For awhile anyways.

"Do you mean when Sentry was enraged and punched Simon?  I remember him actually not being knocked out and making a comment about sentry right after the punch (he said "he's lost it" so not knocked out).  I'll go back an re-read just to be sure, but I'm fairly certain.  I'm sure IM has something for everyone, but that doesn't mean they can't over come it, they are Avengers after all, and anything is possible.  IM is faster flying, yes, but what about reaction time.  As far as she hulk, all I can say is thor tapped him with mjolnir and cracked his armor, simon should be able to do the same.  She Hulk is a better fighter, but Simon hits harder.  I'm at work so, it's hard for me to double check now.  If Namor can withstand what IM dishes out (he said to tony "you've never invented a weapon that has any affect on me") so can Simon.  For awhile anyways."

As far as mjolnir, im only talking about how hard it hits, not its powers.  I don't think carol covered his ass, she attacked next as they are a team.  Simon wasn't even hurt.  He's sitting up holding his chin.  Anything is possible, its comics so you can have spiderman beat firelord for instance (only once of course but it did happen).  Simon has more control over his powers now as he has demonstrated against ultron, so who knows how this battle would play out.  Simon hits harder than She Hulk.  I don't see IM standing up to repeated blows from wm.  As for Namor, I was referring to the recent mini series with namor and iron man.  His blast had zero affect on him.

I think Iron Man but it would be a long battle and he would only just win.

"As far as mjolnir, im only talking about how hard it hits, not its powers.  I don't think carol covered his ass, she attacked next as they are a team.  Simon wasn't even hurt.  He's sitting up holding his chin.  Anything is possible, its comics so you can have spiderman beat firelord for instance (only once of course but it did happen).  Simon has more control over his powers now as he has demonstrated against ultron, so who knows how this battle would play out.  Simon hits harder than She Hulk.  I don't see IM standing up to repeated blows from wm.  As for Namor, I was referring to the recent mini series with namor and iron man.  His blast had zero affect on him."

1.  Yes Mjolnir is more poweful than WM, but his fists are still considered comparable to it (not exactly the same, but close enough).
2.  I disagree.  I guess this scene is subject to interpretation, after all he wasn't ordered to kill him lol.  He was ordered to stop him, tried to reason with  him and got hit pretty hard.  He wasn't even stunned.  He sat up and said he's lost it, so I don't see an ass covering here.
3.  I just used that as an example that hero's can rise to the occassion or challenge and preservere.  Simon has more control over his powers, so it is possible for him to overcome what tony throws at him.
4.  How many times has simon gone up against ultron and won (punching adamantium repeatedly with bare fists).  how many times has he smashed something that was as hard as adamantium (the door i mentioned earlier).  I haven't seen she hulk do that.  if she has please let me know.
5.  Everything can't be bad writing.  Namor fought him in th ocean when that fight occurred so he was fully powered up and that's what happened.  In Invaders/Avengers Simon laughs at Human Torches flames (zero affect on him - invaders thought they were fighting nazis so not holding back) a testament to his durability.

I like both characters, but I feel WM can get a win here.

Iron Man

"1.  Yes Mjolnir is more poweful than WM, but his fists are still considered comparable to it (not exactly the same, but close enough).
2.  I disagree.  I guess this scene is subject to interpretation, after all he wasn't ordered to kill him lol.  He was ordered to stop him, tried to reason with  him and got hit pretty hard.  He wasn't even stunned.  He sat up and said he's lost it, so I don't see an ass covering here.
3.  I just used that as an example that hero's can rise to the occassion or challenge and preservere.  Simon has more control over his powers, so it is possible for him to overcome what tony throws at him.
4.  How many times has simon gone up against ultron and won (punching adamantium repeatedly with bare fists).  how many times has he smashed something that was as hard as adamantium (the door i mentioned earlier).  I haven't seen she hulk do that.  if she has please let me know.
5.  Everything can't be bad writing.  Namor fought him in th ocean when that fight occurred so he was fully powered up and that's what happened.  In Invaders/Avengers Simon laughs at Human Torches flames (zero affect on him - invaders thought they were fighting nazis so not holding back) a testament to his durability.

I like both characters, but I feel WM can get a win here."

Well Vance.  I disagree with you and am leaving it at that.  This would be a great battle to see.  I believe wm has a chance as do all heros.  As for bringing up Ultron, he has feats against him that demonstrate his durability, strength and hitting power (you'd have to have these to go up against anyone made out of adamantium).  Which is why wm could take what IM dishes out for a while, not indefinitely.  So wm has a chance to win.

"Iron Man"

"I think Iron Man but it would be a long battle and he would only just win."

"Alpha said:

"So, without his extremis power, could Wonderman?"

Even then Iron Man should win"

"Iron Man ftw.."

"Iron Man should win here
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Iron Man will win.

Here's another im vs wm that is what i'm talking about:  http://www.marvel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28013&postdays=&postorder=asc&start=0.  WM written correctly should be able to withstand what im dishes out for a while.   Tony needs to amp up to get to full power like he did against the bb/super skrull and it left him spent if i'm not mistaken.  Bombs, lasers, tank blasts bounce off wm as shown in WCA proving his durability (against energy attacks also) and that's what will help him last for a time.  His punching power has been shown when written correctly (again in WCA, his first solo series - for example he stale mated the hulk in a straight up fight while they were both pummeld with bazokas which did not affect either one).  I think what is remebered is the whole pumkin bomb thing when it was the pumpkin bomb and all the atlantean weapons that exploded that knocked him out.

"Here's another im vs wm that is what i'm talking about:  http://www.marvel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28013&postdays=&postorder=asc&start=0.  WM written correctly should be able to withstand what im dishes out for a while.   Tony needs to amp up to get to full power like he did against the bb/super skrull and it left him spent if i'm not mistaken.  Bombs, lasers, tank blasts bounce off wm as shown in WCA proving his durability (against energy attacks also) and that's what will help him last for a time.  His punching power has been shown when written correctly (again in WCA, his first solo series - for example he stale mated the hulk in a straight up fight while they were both pummeld with bazokas which did not affect either one).  I think what is remebered is the whole pumkin bomb thing when it was the pumpkin bomb and all the atlantean weapons that exploded that knocked him out."

"geodoc said:

"Here's another im vs wm that is what i'm talking about:  http://www.marvel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28013&postdays=&postorder=asc&start=0.  WM written correctly should be able to withstand what im dishes out for a while.   Tony needs to amp up to get to full power like he did against the bb/super skrull and it left him spent if i'm not mistaken.  Bombs, lasers, tank blasts bounce off wm as shown in WCA proving his durability (against energy attacks also) and that's what will help him last for a time.  His punching power has been shown when written correctly (again in WCA, his first solo series - for example he stale mated the hulk in a straight up fight while they were both pummeld with bazokas which did not affect either one).  I think what is remebered is the whole pumkin bomb thing when it was the pumpkin bomb and all the atlantean weapons that exploded that knocked him out."

Did you even read the comic? Tony didn't amp up his power to fight the Blackbolt skrull..he amped it up to destroy the area the Illuminati had met in.Namor killed the Blackbolt skrull with ease.Iron Man will not be stupid enough to use weapons against Wonder Man that doesn't work and he knows exactly what hurts him.Stalemating the Hulk is weak..Iron Man beat the Hulk 3 times..even in the MK II armor which is his classic armor."

"Vance Astro said:

"geodoc said:

"Here's another im vs wm that is what i'm talking about:  http://www.marvel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28013&postdays=&postorder=asc&start=0.  WM written correctly should be able to withstand what im dishes out for a while.   Tony needs to amp up to get to full power like he did against the bb/super skrull and it left him spent if i'm not mistaken.  Bombs, lasers, tank blasts bounce off wm as shown in WCA proving his durability (against energy attacks also) and that's what will help him last for a time.  His punching power has been shown when written correctly (again in WCA, his first solo series - for example he stale mated the hulk in a straight up fight while they were both pummeld with bazokas which did not affect either one).  I think what is remebered is the whole pumkin bomb thing when it was the pumpkin bomb and all the atlantean weapons that exploded that knocked him out."

Did you even read the comic? Tony didn't amp up his power to fight the Blackbolt skrull..he amped it up to destroy the area the Illuminati had met in.Namor killed the Blackbolt skrull with ease.Iron Man will not be stupid enough to use weapons against Wonder Man that doesn't work and he knows exactly what hurts him.Stalemating the Hulk is weak..Iron Man beat the Hulk 3 times..even in the MK II armor which is his classic armor."

Yes I read the comic (as I own over 10,000 comics).  I knew he amped up for a powerful blast (thats the blast he would need to take out simon).  Stalemating the hulk is never weak especially when they were both being hit with bazokas repeatedly and didn't even notice - durability feat."

Which version of the hulk and how did he beat him.

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Which version of the hulk and how did he beat him.

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Give me a few to look these up okies.

Wonder Man

wonder man

Iron Man wins.

Iron man

Long hard battle 7 out 10times Wonderman wins.

@Ryu750: How?

Besides Iron Man already knows how to contain his ionic energy. I think he did it in the Bendis run back in 2010, annual issue? I'm not too sure.

But yeah IM basically BFRd Wonder Man in secs.

Still Iron Man wins.

iron man already beat him.

Wonder man has this

Wonder man should win.

@ffs91: Wasn’t that with prep? Simon has been consistently superior to Iron man. They fought on 3 occasions and at best Iron man could only take a few hits. He even noted Wonder man wasn’t even breathing hard from full power repulsors.

@noobmaster2001: I don't remember that good, but even War machine beat him twice iirc

@ffs91: I mean Wonder man is a guy who has beaten people like Abomination, Skurge, Red Hulk and Atlas etc I don’t think him being beaten by War Machine (Which I don’t think ever happened IIRC) is consistent, especially considering he’s beaten/proved superior to Iron man in every encounter they’ve had.

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