when you give one side a uneven advantage,like here of "prep" you are saying the one you give to cant beat the other in a fair one on one fight,thats why the special rules on these battle boards are totally ridiculous.if you cant give BOTH the equal amount of prep then dont have the fighr,and i call spite.
if superboy studies iron man as much as iron man studies him,kon wins,just as easily as if this was a surprise fight.
@nickthedevil: Actually,when he scan soemthing,he's also capable to understand,as was showing in issue 11 when he sense the chemical combination and structure of the alcohol drink by just seeing it and what it would do with his body.. So turn off his TK,do you think it would shut down the other powers? The Kryptonian DNA is still there...
Ohhh he has prep ohh he is Iron Man,ABC logic that people love to say and an incredibly lazy to learn about the other character, lazy to debate
Explain that to me Nick.. How Emma open a hole in his suit?
I couldn't have said it better than....
@80sBaby said:
With Prep, Id give it to Tony. He has the means to shut down Kon's TTK and an energy siphon takes care of his kryptonian abilities. Also, Kon is vulnerable when distracted and, being faaaaar less experienced than Tony, that can be easily taken advantage of.
@matchesmalone21: with prep Tony manage to counter and defeat Magneto who was by logic supose to have huge advantage against him.. not to mention Thor, Hulk, Sentry and many others.. i think he can pull the majority of the wins..
Separting Cassie from her magical armorDisable Red Robin's suit
@Mr_Ingenuity: @ChaosMarvel: I think you didn't read Superboy yet. Kon can scan his enemy with his TK,without touching.....so he would know Stark's plan before he can react,would know the weakest points of his armor and then split him or simply destroy it inside out
@comicanimelover: Maybe equal? isn't more powerful ? As I said before e used TK to know everything about his enemies,he can learn anything and store in his mind with his TK..he already learn about history just to be in a school,the professor doesn't had started the lesson yet and also he makes Kid Flash loses control of his body,he would stay running until I die, if not for the Wonder Girl saves it
@jeanroygrant: Iron Man isn't immune to TK,Superboy can learn anything that Tony would tjink and do with this and also learn about his physioloy,how the armor works ..well anything,he's capable to discobver the melting point o f athing and move its molecules to great speed to cacth fire or explode
@jonEsherfey: @HigorM: @PlasticBag: I think you guy doesn't understand Superboy's powers or didn't read any of his comics...TK would already scan Tony and gives Superboy the knowledge. Superboy has a edge,despite Tony has prep
@drgnx: Your forgetting prep, which Iron Man could easily use adamantium tipped SPIN needles and many other options.
I don't think Superboy has been shown to develop super speed yet, but he has super senses/perception as he was able to keep up with Flashes speed. He should be able to keep up with Tony's movements. Strength-wise; Tony should have better feats.
@Mr_Ingenuity: what part of he doesn't need to touch him,you can't understand?? please read all issues,he just need to touch the ground,like he does with the N.O.W.H.E.R.E amored guards.
@nickthedevil: It's satetd in OP? No. He does that in character? NO.
@Mr_Ingenuity: what part of he doesn't need to touch him,you can't understand?? please read all issues,he just need to touch the ground,like he does with the N.O.W.H.E.R.E amored guards.
@nickthedevil: It's satetd in OP? No. He does that in character? NO.
What makes you think Iron Man w/prep would put himself at a disadvantage to a telekinesis user. Since starting positions is not mentioned it safe to assume Superboy starts at a disadvantage.
@matchesmalone21: You question Iron Mans intelligence like it isn't a factor in this fight, understand Iron Man has has years of prep feats that put him above Batman. Batman also a prep god. As you said
@Mr_Ingenuity: I'm question anone intelligence,do not change what I said, being more smarter than someone, does not mean it always has to win or should win.
So why you don't comment prep god vs Harvest anymore? Iron Man has 3 day to prep,but can only use his weapons and gears
@drgnx: Iron Mans's brain is enhanced by extremis virus and thinks faster than a super computer.@Mr_Ingenuity said:
@matchesmalone21 said:
@Mr_Ingenuity: what part of he doesn't need to touch him,you can't understand?? please read all issues,he just need to touch the ground,like he does with the N.O.W.H.E.R.E amored guards.
@nickthedevil: It's satetd in OP? No. He does that in character? NO.
What makes you think Iron Man w/prep would put himself at a disadvantage to a telekinesis user. Since starting positions is not mentioned it safe to assume Superboy starts at a disadvantage.
@drgnx: Iron Mans's brain is enhanced by extremis virus and thinks faster than a super computer.
@Mr_Ingenuity said:
@matchesmalone21 said:
@Mr_Ingenuity: what part of he doesn't need to touch him,you can't understand?? please read all issues,he just need to touch the ground,like he does with the N.O.W.H.E.R.E amored guards.
@nickthedevil: It's satetd in OP? No. He does that in character? NO.
What makes you think Iron Man w/prep would put himself at a disadvantage to a telekinesis user. Since starting positions is not mentioned it safe to assume Superboy starts at a disadvantage.
This is how I factor Iron man wining.
hmmm...Is his speed increased too or just his thoughts?
@Mr_Ingenuity: cool, while you're at see what his strength is. Superboy is listed at only ~3 tons effortless <<< than the normal 100 ton heavy hitter range.
@drgnx: Bleeding Edge iron man can fight take hits from Thor and has repulser blast that fazed Thor to a notice able degree. Iron man strengths should be 100 ton considering the times he fought Hulk.
@Mr_Ingenuity: Well if he hits SuperBoy in the face before he charges his TK, he might actually be able to KO him in one shot. Superboy has no durability without his forcefield, and has not tested it against a real heavy hitter. If Bart can hurt him, Tony might be able to just run up and hit him as soon as the battle starts.
@drgnx: I under stand why he lost the first fight, she was immune to his TTK but the second was fair. Super Boy was unable to focus on attack and defense to to keep his necessary durability.
A better example would be Superboy vs Super Girl which he lost. He also got blitzed in that fight to.
He didn't lose that fight, he stopped her with his TK, then they talked and she realized he had no relation to the clones on krypton, then they shielded eachother from an attacking helicopter's bullets, then supergirl flew away, while Superboy was BFRing the helicopter.
But Iron Man is much more durable than New 52 Super Girl. Iron Mans repulser blast is is still strong enough to KO Super Boy or a punch.
And this is Pre Extremis Iron Man.
Supergirl controlled the fight, because she took him from surprise, and because he didn't want to fight (they were talking, she found out he was a clone, and attacked him suddenly leaving him completely dumbfounded). Once he decided to defend himself it only took 1 attack to make her think twice, then they talked again. This is not a boxing match with a score card point system, they were both in top form after, which makes it a stand-off.
@drgnx: We can agree to disagree on that, but Iron Man has the option of SPIN tech, a range of repulser blast, and hundredths of suits to control all at once to pull out 8/10 wins.
@Mr_Ingenuity: Iron Man's durability? What is in question Iron Man's durability or Savage Hulk?
If you read The S family issues,you would know about their armors,Superboy's powers pass trhought it and their powers doesn't change,they would still be absorbing solar energy, which would accelerate the healing factor and increase their strength,also Supergirl is different from Superboy and Superman she can store large quantities of energy on her body,see her fight against the Worldkillers. she whistand attack from Black Siobhan,despite being weak against magic.
Iron Man's durability? What is in question Iron Man's durability or Savage Hulk?
Both, seeing as that is the most durable character that Iron Man could possibly pull a win, & in top to 10 Iron Man has taken hits from.
If you read The S family issues,you would know about their armors,Superboy's powers pass trhought it and their powers doesn't change,they would still be absorbing solar energy, which would accelerate the healing factor and increase their strength,also Supergirl is different from Superboy and Superman she can store large quantities of energy on her body,see her fight against the Worldkillers. she whistand attack from Black Siobhan,despite being weak against magic.
Yes I've read Super Girl (stop at issue 6) and nothing I read puts her on/above Iron Man. It to a Worthy (fear itself) to put critical damage on the Bleeding Edge suit, some one who is amped to Thor strength. Further more extremis Iron Man survived a nuke & that is the old model.
@Mr_Ingenuity: Go read other numbers. Iron Man isn't more durable than Kryptonians and they still has their amors,to protects from being harmed,as I said they were still being fed by yellow sun radiation,I believe you do not want to see or do a tremendous issue to ignore that,the yellow sun radiationcan further enhance their powers,that you would point to ignore and overestimated Tony. Superboy TK pass throught a indestructable armor,so the Bleeding Edhge is immune to that? that was you saying? shwo me scans of the nuke...
Bleeding Edge is nanites in Iron Man's blood & bones that self heal. I'm not ignoring anything I debating from the setup which gives both a day of prep putting this in Iron Man's favor of 8/10.
With prior knowledge Tony will have the necessary info to put down Superboy before he gets the necessary touch to fight back.
@drgnx: We can agree to disagree on that, but Iron Man has the option of SPIN tech, a range of repulser blast, and hundredths of suits to control all at once to pull out 8/10 wins.
He won't be using the other suits though, the rules specifically says the one armor he has access to for this fight. I'm also certain those would count as reinforcements.
@Mr_Ingenuity: Again You has point to ignore,he doesn't need to touch him.you is not ignoring anything,this came from my crazy head..maybe I'm doing this,
@matchesmalone21: But their is comic evidence that says otherwise & you posted it. The only examples I can think of where he uses TTK without touching some one is to scan the prison. That was an indirect touch, both standing on the ground where he he could get info.
@Mr_Ingenuity: there durablity is far greater i would say maybe not superboy but definitly superman and supergirl cause they are just under indestrucable same goes for there armor
@Mr_Ingenuity: The scans of Iron Man means nothing the Nuke didn't hit thim. Superboy take a blast from Wildfire,that was composed of Anti-Energy,which is similar to Antimmater. Here is another,scanning and learning just be in a school (he scan automatically). Scanning the island throught a tree,you can se the red eenrgy surrounding the island?
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