Iron Man vs Son Goku
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22nd Tenkaichi Budokai has just ended and Goku has had a chance to recover. Fight takes place in Marvel's New York City.
"King Saturn said:Iron Man would have to use energy based attacks on Goku though... and I aint too sure how well Iron Man's armor would hold up to Goku's attacks"I think Iron Man maybe able to take down this version of Goku. He has the tech and the heavy weapons to do it.easily, ironman could bring the environment around son goku to complete flames and destruction, sending the sayain to the pit of a volcano."
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"Matches said:the kamahamaha blew up the mountain with master roshi's attack, Goku was able to produce it to the same level. The only way he could beat him is with kamahamaha"King Saturn said:Iron Man would have to use energy based attacks on Goku though... and I aint too sure how well Iron Man's armor would hold up to Goku's attacks""I think Iron Man maybe able to take down this version of Goku. He has the tech and the heavy weapons to do it.easily, ironman could bring the environment around son goku to complete flames and destruction, sending the sayain to the pit of a volcano."
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"King Saturn said:Iron Man does have shields though. I dont see Goku winning here... but I do think he could give Tony a run"Matches said:the kamahamaha blew up the mountain with master roshi's attack, Goku was able to produce it to the same level. The only way he could beat him is with kamahamaha""King Saturn said:Iron Man would have to use energy based attacks on Goku though... and I aint too sure how well Iron Man's armor would hold up to Goku's attacks""I think Iron Man maybe able to take down this version of Goku. He has the tech and the heavy weapons to do it.easily, ironman could bring the environment around son goku to complete flames and destruction, sending the sayain to the pit of a volcano."
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This is almost a tie, Goku even at a young age like 12, yes he was 12 at the tournament, he is still pretty strong, I don't know though, Iron Man is a genius though, he could use his intellect to win since Goku back then was not that smart but Goku never gives up so I don't know and Goku probably has the strenght advantage. I'm not sure though.
"He moved a rock that should weigh about a ton or so at that age. He climbed the lookout tower that goes above the clouds? how many feet is that? Can anyone tell me? Bullets don't work on him and only energy attacks seem to work. Being controlled by other out-worldly forces don't work either.This is almost a tie, Goku even at a young age like 13, yes he was 13 at the tournament, he is still pretty strong, I don't know though, Iron Man is a genius though, he could use his intellect to win since Goku back then was not that smart but Goku never gives up so I don't know and Goku probably has the strenght advantage. I'm not sure though.
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"Theracles said:Goku has 2 ton strength"He moved a rock that should weigh about a ton or so at that age. He climbed the lookout tower that goes above the clouds? how many feet is that? Can anyone tell me? Bullets don't work on him and only energy attacks seem to work. Being controlled by other out-worldly forces don't work either. "This is almost a tie, Goku even at a young age like 13, yes he was 13 at the tournament, he is still pretty strong, I don't know though, Iron Man is a genius though, he could use his intellect to win since Goku back then was not that smart but Goku never gives up so I don't know and Goku probably has the strenght advantage. I'm not sure though.
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Iron Man has 100 ton strength
Goku has massive Energy Blasts
Iron Man has massive Energy Blasts and High Tech
Its somewhat close... but I think Iron Man wins here in a good fight
"At the 22nd Goku was 15, at the 21st he said that he was 12.This is almost a tie, Goku even at a young age like 12, yes he was 12 at the tournament, he is still pretty strong, I don't know though, Iron Man is a genius though, he could use his intellect to win since Goku back then was not that smart but Goku never gives up so I don't know and Goku probably has the strenght advantage. I'm not sure though."
"Theracles said:Bullets don't work, in an episode of Dragonball he was shot but wasn't even harmed. Energy attacks work but I don't Iron Man's repulsor beams will work, the only way Tony can win is with his intellect."He moved a rock that should weigh about a ton or so at that age. He climbed the lookout tower that goes above the clouds? how many feet is that? Can anyone tell me? Bullets don't work on him and only energy attacks seem to work. Being controlled by other out-worldly forces don't work either. "This is almost a tie, Goku even at a young age like 13, yes he was 13 at the tournament, he is still pretty strong, I don't know though, Iron Man is a genius though, he could use his intellect to win since Goku back then was not that smart but Goku never gives up so I don't know and Goku probably has the strenght advantage. I'm not sure though.
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"Obviously Goku loses. "Yeah Goku loses... but he will really give Iron Man a good fight here
"Theracles said:Actually he climbed to the moon and back once, I know this was more of a comedic but he actually did it in the manga and if you are curious that is about 225,632 miles."He moved a rock that should weigh about a ton or so at that age. He climbed the lookout tower that goes above the clouds? how many feet is that? Can anyone tell me? Bullets don't work on him and only energy attacks seem to work. Being controlled by other out-worldly forces don't work either. "This is almost a tie, Goku even at a young age like 13, yes he was 13 at the tournament, he is still pretty strong, I don't know though, Iron Man is a genius though, he could use his intellect to win since Goku back then was not that smart but Goku never gives up so I don't know and Goku probably has the strenght advantage. I'm not sure though.
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"oldmagic said:Are you serious?! Which chapter?"Theracles said:Actually he climbed to the moon and back once, I know this was more of a comedic but he actually did it in the manga and if you are curious that is about 225,632 miles.""He moved a rock that should weigh about a ton or so at that age. He climbed the lookout tower that goes above the clouds? how many feet is that? Can anyone tell me? Bullets don't work on him and only energy attacks seem to work. Being controlled by other out-worldly forces don't work either. "This is almost a tie, Goku even at a young age like 13, yes he was 13 at the tournament, he is still pretty strong, I don't know though, Iron Man is a genius though, he could use his intellect to win since Goku back then was not that smart but Goku never gives up so I don't know and Goku probably has the strenght advantage. I'm not sure though.
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"Nobody said:I'm not sure the chapter number but it was in their first search for the Dragonballs. Goku just defeated the Rabbit Mob. He extended his Pole to the moon and climbed up with while carrying them and left there as punishment."oldmagic said:Are you serious?! Which chapter?""Theracles said:Actually he climbed to the moon and back once, I know this was more of a comedic but he actually did it in the manga and if you are curious that is about 225,632 miles.""He moved a rock that should weigh about a ton or so at that age. He climbed the lookout tower that goes above the clouds? how many feet is that? Can anyone tell me? Bullets don't work on him and only energy attacks seem to work. Being controlled by other out-worldly forces don't work either. "This is almost a tie, Goku even at a young age like 13, yes he was 13 at the tournament, he is still pretty strong, I don't know though, Iron Man is a genius though, he could use his intellect to win since Goku back then was not that smart but Goku never gives up so I don't know and Goku probably has the strenght advantage. I'm not sure though.
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"lol he never climbed it. He used the pole as a way to extend himself towards the moon. He never did any climbing. The pole was doing all the work, he was just using the pole as a ride....but seeing as this is canon, Goku can breath in space no?"Maybe he did ride it, I would have to look again. Like I said it was more of a comical thing, cause it even said they were making some mention to some Japanese tale about the Rabbit on the Moon, but in a canon comic yes he did go into space. But on that same not, so did those three humans, and later on they said Goku was not able to.
"oldmagic said:loop hole. it's a contradiction."lol he never climbed it. He used the pole as a way to extend himself towards the moon. He never did any climbing. The pole was doing all the work, he was just using the pole as a ride....but seeing as this is canon, Goku can breath in space no?"Maybe he did ride it, I would have to look again. Like I said it was more of a comical thing, cause it even said they were making some mention to some Japanese tale about the Rabbit on the Moon, but in a canon comic yes he did go into space. But on that same not, so did those three humans, and later on they said Goku was not able to."
12 year old thread, but I'll take a shot at this.
Strength:
Goku's best striking feat up to this point is splitting a boulder in two with a single blow, which he does to confirm he's at full strength.
This is decent, but nothing Tony can't replicate or exceed in, well, most of his suits. The Extremis armour alone has some decent objective feats, to say nothing about the results you'd get from scaling.
Power and Durability
In terms of ki projection, Goku doesn't yet scale to city-busting King Piccolo, since this was before drinking the water. However, he should still be above Yamcha's deflected Kamehameha.
But we also have an upper limit: Tien's Kikoho. The attack was described as far more powerful than the Kamehameha and backs it up with an enormous crater. This also doubles as a definitive limit for Goku's durability, as he states it would've killed him.
In comparison, Tony has created mini-nuclear explosions and survived energy blasts greater than nuke-level bombings.
Heck, some armours can take bombs that would 'turn the West Coast into a crater' - even being hit with a fraction of that is a great durability feat.
Tony has a massive advantage here, and it's not even close.
Speed
As far as speed goes, Goku has multiple bullet-timing feats, and should scale to FTE/bullet-timing characters like Roshi.
Tony, much like Goku, is FTE - but he also operates in milliseconds and can punch at mach 3.
Krillin and Roshi had an exchange of blows in 0.2 seconds. While that may have been a longer exchange of blows relative to them, there's an appreciable speed gap and I don't think Goku closes it by the 22nd tournament. Tony's feats are just plain better.
Moon-busting and Tao's pillar feat
The only moon-busting feat in OG DB was from Roshi, who required two boosters to get up to that level: his buff form, and the Kamehameha (which multiplies PL). And it's implied that blast would've killed Oozaru Goku.
Regular ol' Goku would've died to the Kikoho, and given his expression, most likely this missile too. He's clearly not moon-level, not until later.
And Tao's feat is travel speed, not combat.
Conclusion/TL;DR
Iron Man wins. I'd go as far as to call it a stomp.
The Extremis armour, which I consider a relatively standard suit, should take this 10/10. He outclasses Goku in basically every way, in some cases to a massive extent. In fact, most suits could beat this Goku, and things like Endo-Sym would be absolute stomps.
Yes, Goku has techniques and the Power Pole, but that's not nearly enough to close the gap. The Kikoho would've killed Goku, which is orders of magnitude weaker than stuff Tony has survived. And Tony has his own bag of tricks too.
@thebatmeme368: Tony does win but Goku is way faster than mach 3. Tao's feat is not travel as he had to react to the pillar and precisely jump on it, that's reaction and movement/dash speed. Goku at that point also had a feat of jumping and catching already dispatching dragon ball outspeeding it multiple times over (ball didn't move a meter while Goku easily jumped more than a dozen) and dragon balls dispatch past the horizon in split second even at 15-20m above ground making them around mach 40.
Also inb4lock
Even this Goku is way too fast for Iron Man and a single full power Kamehameha would end him tbh.
Inb4lock.
@thebatmeme368: nice arguments, Iron Man stomps
@gaoron: Why do you think Tony wins?
@takenstew22: My knowledge about IM is minimal but can't he both tank and dish out nuclear level attacks even in his basic armor? Goku while multiple times faster isn't quite up there at this level until KP comes into play and he shouldn't scale to Buff Roshi's feats because buff form has unknown multiplier and power level.
@gaoron: Salty how?
@takenstew22 that stuff that hit iron man would destroy goku
@funkynamu nope, that laser is fodder to iron man
Also Lol at kid goku beating IM
Goku is to weak to slow, he's fodder to iron man
Goku is overrated, he gets stomped, lock this
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