#1 Posted by Jax (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

They have 1 week to prepare and each can choose one person to help.

#2 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man, I am guess cause he has greater resource and Sentry.

#3 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

What is this? "Everyone against the Fantastic Four/ a member of the team" day? >_<;

#4 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"Iron Man, I am guess cause he has greater resource and Sentry."

Reed's smarter. He obtains the Ultimate Nullifier.

#5 Posted by acewasp23 (6184 posts) - - Show Bio

Reed i just don't see him loosing to Ironman if he had prep.

#6 Posted by iwan (616 posts) - - Show Bio

Fantastic Four are holding up pretty well so far. Apart from the Spidey v Thing thread, Spidey ruined The Thing's day.

#7 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Nobody says:
"Iron Man, I am guess cause he has greater resource and Sentry."
Reed's smarter. He obtains the Ultimate Nullifier."
Reed is smarter in certain areas and Iron Man is smarter in other areas. They are pretty even over all. I don't think Reed has the Ultimate Nullifier anymore and Iron Man has his Doomsday plan.
#8 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Jax says:

"Maelstrom says:
"What is this? "Everyone against the Fantastic Four/ a member of the team" day? >_<;"

No, I just wanted to make battle forums today. Today it involved the fantastic four and spider man tomorrow may be x-men I don't know."

Just pulls out a copy of her FF comics. It's nice though to see them get attention. They deserve it, and I'm not just talking as a person who loves that team to death. :P

#9 Posted by Forever (4313 posts) - - Show Bio

Reed should be able to outplan Tony, so it depends on who they bring in and what that person can do. Can they only be involved in the planning or in the actual fight as well? Are we taking Reed and Tony with just their current supporters or their usual supporters throughout history?

#10 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"What is this? "Everyone against the Fantastic Four/ a member of the team" day? >_<;"

Yes it is. I'm as annoyed as you Mael, don't feel bad. lol."

You know how it is for me though. lol They're my favorite superhero team!

#11 Posted by Jax (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"What is this? "Everyone against the Fantastic Four/ a member of the team" day? >_<;"

No, I just wanted to make battle forums today. Today it involved the fantastic four and spider man tomorrow may be x-men I don't know.

#12 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Nobody says:
"Iron Man, I am guess cause he has greater resource and Sentry."
Reed's smarter. He obtains the Ultimate Nullifier."
Reed is smarter in certain areas and Iron Man is smarter in other areas. They are pretty even over all. I don't think Reed has the Ultimate Nullifier anymore and Iron Man has his Doomsday plan. "

Ok, Reed creates an antimatter ray.

Maelstrom says:

"What is this? "Everyone against the Fantastic Four/ a member of the team" day? >_<;"

Yes it is. I'm as annoyed as you Mael, don't feel bad. lol.

#13 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Nobody says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Nobody says:
"Iron Man, I am guess cause he has greater resource and Sentry."
Reed's smarter. He obtains the Ultimate Nullifier."
Reed is smarter in certain areas and Iron Man is smarter in other areas. They are pretty even over all. I don't think Reed has the Ultimate Nullifier anymore and Iron Man has his Doomsday plan. "
Ok, Reed creates an antimatter ray. Maelstrom says:
"What is this? "Everyone against the Fantastic Four/ a member of the team" day? >_<;"
Yes it is. I'm as annoyed as you Mael, don't feel bad. lol."
Iron Man can't do the same?
#14 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Maelstrom says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"What is this? "Everyone against the Fantastic Four/ a member of the team" day? >_<;"
Yes it is. I'm as annoyed as you Mael, don't feel bad. lol."
You know how it is for me though. *lol* They're my favorite superhero team! "

Lol. I know. I'm starting to like 'em too.

@Forever: I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."

Doom's help always comes with a terrible price. I doubt Reed would risk it given what happened the last time Doom "helped".

#15 Posted by Jax (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"Reed should be able to outplan Tony, so it depends on who they bring in and what that person can do. Can they only be involved in the planning or in the actual fight as well? Are we taking Reed and Tony with just their current supporters or their usual supporters throughout history?"

There involved in the fight and can chose anyone.

#16 Posted by Forever (4313 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."

But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor.

#17 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"What is this? "Everyone against the Fantastic Four/ a member of the team" day? >_<;"
Yes it is. I'm as annoyed as you Mael, don't feel bad. lol."
You know how it is for me though. *lol* They're my favorite superhero team! "

Lol. I know. I'm starting to like 'em too.

@Forever: I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other.

#18 Posted by Jax (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

see ya.

#19 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."
I said Sentry
#20 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."

Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater.

#21 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."
Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater."
I doubt Surfer or Galactus would agree to help Reed in this.
#22 Posted by Forever (4313 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."

Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater."

I asked Jax if it was current friends or going back through time and his statement seemed to say that all friends are allowed. So saying that, Thor, Tony's teammate and good friend (ignoring what has been going on recently) seems far more likely to help than the enigmatic Galactus, who is more likely to be hungry then interested in helping out in a fight, or even Silver Surfer, who Reed might not even be able to contact during the planning phases. But I would certainly allow Surfer in and see who would win, though the fight would turn more into Thor vs. Surfer than IM vs RR.

#23 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."
Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater."
I doubt Surfer or Galactus would agree to help Reed in this. "

Surfer probably would. He's their "friend" last time I checked.

Screams at Mael

Correct me if I'm wrong!

#24 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."
Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater."
I asked Jax if it was current friends or going back through time and his statement seemed to say that all friends are allowed. So saying that, Thor, Tony's teammate and good friend (ignoring what has been going on recently) seems far more likely to help than the enigmatic Galactus, who is more likely to be hungry then interested in helping out in a fight, or even Silver Surfer, who Reed might not even be able to contact during the planning phases. But I would certainly allow Surfer in and see who would win, though the fight would turn more into Thor vs. Surfer than IM vs RR."

That's also a possibility but who's to say Surfer wouldn't help? I think Reed will call in Sentry since they were best friends.

#25 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Nobody says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."
Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater."
I doubt Surfer or Galactus would agree to help Reed in this. "

Surfer probably would. He's their "friend" last time I checked.

Screams at Mael

Correct me if I'm wrong!"

You're correct, EC. Maybe not Galactus, but Norrin, will most likely do it. He's been a long time friend and ally and he's helped them out before, so it's not impossible.

#26 Posted by Legendary Bio Vishanti (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."
Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater."
I doubt Surfer or Galactus would agree to help Reed in this. "

Iron Man brings in Thor, or Strange.

#27 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."
Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater."
I asked Jax if it was current friends or going back through time and his statement seemed to say that all friends are allowed. So saying that, Thor, Tony's teammate and good friend (ignoring what has been going on recently) seems far more likely to help than the enigmatic Galactus, who is more likely to be hungry then interested in helping out in a fight, or even Silver Surfer, who Reed might not even be able to contact during the planning phases. But I would certainly allow Surfer in and see who would win, though the fight would turn more into Thor vs. Surfer than IM vs RR."

That's also a possibility but who's to say Surfer wouldn't help? I think Reed will call in Sentry since they were best friends."

He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)

#28 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Forever says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I agree with Reed out planning Tony. If anything, Reed can get help from Doom as much as they hate each other."
But now with the rules clarified, Tony could bring in Thor or Strange and tip the scales in his favor."
Yeah, um I doubt Thor would help, but if that card is going to be thrown out there, I'll use a card of my own. The Surfer, or better yet, his best friend, the planet eater."
I asked Jax if it was current friends or going back through time and his statement seemed to say that all friends are allowed. So saying that, Thor, Tony's teammate and good friend (ignoring what has been going on recently) seems far more likely to help than the enigmatic Galactus, who is more likely to be hungry then interested in helping out in a fight, or even Silver Surfer, who Reed might not even be able to contact during the planning phases. But I would certainly allow Surfer in and see who would win, though the fight would turn more into Thor vs. Surfer than IM vs RR."
That's also a possibility but who's to say Surfer wouldn't help? I think Reed will call in Sentry since they were best friends."
He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)"

Lol, speaking of Uato, I was reading him in Earth X. Got so depressing with his "There's no such thing as good and evil, only change". So true though...

#29 Posted by Forever (4313 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)"

He only gets one of them.

#30 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

Lol, speaking of Uato, I was reading him in Earth X. Got so depressing with his "There's no such thing as good and evil, only change". So true though..."

Earth-X Uatu was something else completely. It was still an amazing story though.

#31 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
Lol, speaking of Uato, I was reading him in Earth X. Got so depressing with his "There's no such thing as good and evil, only change". So true though..."
Earth-X Uatu was something else completely. It was still an amazing story though."

I know it is. I just started it today and I'm up to chapter 6 or 7. I love it thus far.

#32 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"Maelstrom says:
"He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)"

He only gets one of them."

I think NEITHER of them should be able to bring in reinforcements. The battle is called "Iron Man versus Reed Richards" not "Iron Man +1 versus Reed Richards +1".

#33 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Maelstrom says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
Lol, speaking of Uato, I was reading him in Earth X. Got so depressing with his "There's no such thing as good and evil, only change". So true though..."
Earth-X Uatu was something else completely. It was still an amazing story though."

I know it is. I just started it today and I'm up to chapter 6 or 7. I love it thus far."

Just wait till you get towards the end. I cried when I saw Reed and a certain someone at the end. It broke my heart.

#34 Posted by Forever (4313 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"Forever says:
"Maelstrom says:
"He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)"

He only gets one of them."

I think NEITHER of them should be able to bring in reinforcements. The battle is called "Iron Man versus Reed Richards" not "Iron Man +1 versus Reed Richards +1"."

I agree with you. It just muddies the waters. But this is Jax's thread and his rules.

#35 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"Forever says:
"Maelstrom says:
"He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)"
He only gets one of them."
I think NEITHER of them should be able to bring in reinforcements. The battle is called "Iron Man versus Reed Richards" not "Iron Man +1 versus Reed Richards +1"."

I would say "I've never agreed with you more" but I would be lying. I usually ALWAYS agree with you equally. Especially when um... Captain America and Batb!tch are involved. lol

#36 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Maelstrom says:
"Forever says:
"Maelstrom says:
"He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)"
He only gets one of them."
I think NEITHER of them should be able to bring in reinforcements. The battle is called "Iron Man versus Reed Richards" not "Iron Man +1 versus Reed Richards +1"."
I would say "I've never agreed with you more" but I would be lying. I usually ALWAYS agree with you equally. Especially when um... Captain America and Batb!tch are involved. lol"
*Laughs.* :P"

Oh, now that I just remembered, go check the RPG. I've introduced somebody for everybody's favorite vampire.

#37 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Maelstrom says:
"Forever says:
"Maelstrom says:
"He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)"
He only gets one of them."
I think NEITHER of them should be able to bring in reinforcements. The battle is called "Iron Man versus Reed Richards" not "Iron Man +1 versus Reed Richards +1"."

I would say "I've never agreed with you more" but I would be lying. I usually ALWAYS agree with you equally. Especially when um... Captain America and Batb!tch are involved. lol"

Laughs. :P

#38 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Maelstrom says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Maelstrom says:
"Forever says:
"Maelstrom says:
"He could also call in T'Challa, Black Bolt. And if Uatu is in one of his moods, he could help. (We all know how Uatu gets into his "I am Watcher, I cannot interfere" phase.)"
He only gets one of them."
I think NEITHER of them should be able to bring in reinforcements. The battle is called "Iron Man versus Reed Richards" not "Iron Man +1 versus Reed Richards +1"."
I would say "I've never agreed with you more" but I would be lying. I usually ALWAYS agree with you equally. Especially when um... Captain America and Batb!tch are involved. lol"
*Laughs.* :P"

Oh, now that I just remembered, go check the RPG. I've introduced somebody for everybody's favorite vampire."

I saw it. I couldn't help but smirk. My brother is finally about to find love! I'm so happy for you!

#39 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm more happy. lol. I'm just trying to figure out their first interaction. It's going to be very... interesting...lol

#40 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"I'm more happy. lol. I'm just trying to figure out their first interaction. It's going to be very... interesting...lol"

Me too. She better not hurt my bro, or she's going down for the count!

#41 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Maelstrom says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"I'm more happy. lol. I'm just trying to figure out their first interaction. It's going to be very... interesting...lol"
Me too. She better not hurt my bro, or she's going down for the count!"

She uh... she won't hurt him in a bad way... lol.

#42 Posted by Pink Awesome (124 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going say Iron Man, now with extremis, he could probably see what Reed was working on to begin with, and then use that against him. Not only that he could use SPIN tech on Reed, and not only his own gadgets, but SHIELD's resources and not to mention his really powerful suit to match.
Post Edited:2007-10-20 00:52:02

#43 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Pink Awesome says:

"I'm goning say Iron Man, now with extremis, he could probably see what Reed was working on to begin with, and then use that against him. Not only that he could use SPIN tech on Reed, and not only his own gadgets, but SHIELD's resources and not to mention his really powerful suit to match. "

Reed can create a giant EMP.

#44 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Pink Awesome says:

"I'm goning say Iron Man, now with extremis, he could probably see what Reed was working on to begin with, and then use that against him. Not only that he could use SPIN tech on Reed, and not only his own gadgets, but SHIELD's resources and not to mention his really powerful suit to match. "

That's assuming that Reed doesn't decide to go off to the Negative Zone to do his experiments and inventions and I doubt Tony's newfound technopathy would extend to that reality.

#45 Posted by Pink Awesome (124 posts) - - Show Bio

Good points, but Tony does have alot more weapons at his disposal, and Im quiet certain Iron Man is certain of the possibility of a EMP, as its quiet a hamper on him. However, in the negative zone, I do agree, I am not saying Iron Man could see what Reed is doing there, I just mean the earthly limits. Back to my point, Im pretty certain both would end up exhausting themselves with gadgets first, trying to outhink and outplay everyone, but with Iron Man's connections as of late, SPIN tech, and being a better hand to hand combatant if it came down to that (supposing SPIN was used on Reed and he could stretch, otherwise in just a fight battle, Reed could wrap around Tony.)

Both know each other well enough, its just a matter of Tony currenty having more resources at his disposal.

#46 Posted by Pink Awesome (124 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow really? His alcholism? Im pretty sure in the midst of a real battle, Tony wouldnt just lap up shot booze. Lame joke.

#47 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Pink Awesome says:

"Good points, but Tony does have alot more weapons at his disposal, and Im quiet certain Iron Man is certain of the possibility of a EMP, as its quiet a hamper on him. However, in the negative zone, I do agree, I am not saying Iron Man could see what Reed is doing there, I just mean the earthly limits. Back to my point, Im pretty certain both would end up exhausting themselves with gadgets first, trying to outhink and outplay everyone, but with Iron Man's connections as of late, SPIN tech, and being a better hand to hand combatant if it came down to that (supposing SPIN was used on Reed and he could stretch, otherwise in just a fight battle, Reed could wrap around Tony.)Both know each other well enough, its just a matter of Tony currenty having more resources at his disposal."

But I'm sure Reed would probably take into account Tony's current position. Reed's after all "Arguably the Greatest Mind in Human History" and he could always create his own network which only he can access. Or He could always make a gun that fires continuous rounds of liquor. Maybe Tony will give in after he's seen how much Vodka was wasted. :P

#48 Posted by Maelstrom (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

Shrugs. I thought it was amusing.

Nonetheless, the battle is too close to call, we're dealing with men who have a lot of resources at their disposal, who are extremely intelligent, and who know the other quite well.

#49 Posted by dead hunter (25 posts) - - Show Bio

mr fantastic would win cause he is buds with silver surfer and he can kill anyone. but one on one iron would blow mr fantastic up

#50 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23089 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are we still discussing this?