Iron Man vs Jaeger (mover versions)

Iron Man (movie version, best suit)

vs

Jaeger(Pacific Rim movie, Gypsy Danger)

The Jaeger pilot has gone insane and is trying to destroy New York. Iron Man has to stop him. No knowledge, bloodlusted, win by death.

Who wins?

Iron Man.

It wouldn't take long for him to see the two pilots through the cockpit glass. Then he just needs to get through the glass, which he can safely do at range.

GS plasma range is very short.

No.. iron man would get Crushed like a soda can.

Gypsy tanked a nuke bro.

GD tanked an underwater nuke at range. You could do the same inside a refrigerator dude.

@straynger:

wat

I thought explosions under water actually do more damage because the pressure is amplified.

No. If you were inside a pipe it would. In open water the pressure would be dispersed.

I got a "pm" about this. If we are talking real world physics a simple sphere shaped object could tank an underwater nuke. I work in hydrodynamics.

Still going with the hacking argument. Tony hacked SHIELD and US defense in the Avengers, if memory serves. He should be able to sever the connection between the pilots and the Jaegers, or just shut down the computer systems.

Also, the Jaeger will never tag Tony. Tony can just fly circles around it taking shots all day.

I don't see how hacking would take over a mech piloted by the thoughts of two pilots?

Didn't say it would take it over. All he needs to do is shut down the connection that links them. Do I think Tony can control a Jaeger? Probably not, at least not movie Tony. Shut it down? Possibly.

You should post your debate for all to see. I am not a big fan of private messages.

Tanking a nuke underwater is not a feat if you are in anything aero/hydrodynamic.

@jedixman: but didn't he have to get inside SHIELD and place the bug on a terminal before he could start hacking?

I don't remember. But considering it was built to fight monsters that they thought were not intelligent or strategic, why bother to defend it against cyber warfare, when all of humanity was united, thereby not taking hacking attempts into account?

@jedixman: maybe they did or not lol

Underwater explosions do normally have greater impact versus the same explosion in the air at the same distance. So, a blast from a high explosive 10 meters away in air might only stun you, but 10 m underwater it might kill you.

The potential for greater energy transfer is there yes, as fluid can not be compressed. Once you introduce a curved surface this pressure is dramatically reduced.

I'm sure the shape of the object has an effect, but there's many other factors that likely have equal or greater impact. After all, humans are also "curved surfaces" and a human will most definitely sustain much greater damage from being close to an explosion underwater than in the air.

In any case, the general rule of thumb is that explosions underwater do more damage. Some factors are the incompressibility of the water, faster pressure wave propagation, and difference in density between the medium and object.

@patrat18 Here you are. I'm still saying Iron Man with little issue.

Iron man gets stomped.

Ironman is WAY faster than anything gypsy danger has dealt with. and much smaller. Gypsy danger was build to fist fight godzilla, not take out a single target that can fly around and dodge at speeds faster than gypsy danger is capable of.

Tony can use his scanners to tell that there are 2 pilots in the head. From there, all he has to do is fly into the cockpit and kill the pilots inside. He can use his small size to his advantage to dodge the punches and get up close

I can get behind the hacking argument. But even without Jarvis will hook up to a governmental schematic and outline that the humans are locate in the head. From there it's open season forTony, because let's face it they are not going to tag him he's way too quick and Nimble His only problem to overcome was discerning a way to deal damage.

Iron man would get destroyed just by smashing his armor into the cockpit.

Giant monsters with next to nothing for speed is what the Jaegers were built to fight. Not a seven foot target that can break the sound barrier - all Tony needs is an in z whether that's hacking the Jaegers failsafe or just tearing his way in through thw hatch and one-shotting the pilots.

This battle is just the Wasp versus the Hulk. The Hulk is powerful but he can't touch the Wasp and the Wasp can just fly into his ear and hit his brain. Jaegers can never beat someone who is smaller and faster than they are. Jaegers would lose to conventional military forces, what makes you think that one stands up to Iron Man?

They weren't to far out. And the force of that bomb was strong enough to push back the ocean for a pref second.

So that one scene is pretty impressive.

Gypsy Danger's cock pit can withstand 8,000 tons of force. What makes you think Iron can bust into it. While the Kaiju fist couldn't?

Exactly my point.

The only difference is Wasp can't do jack to Hulk while Iron Man can do something to Jaegers.

@ghostravage:

What are you talking about? The Wasp has taken out the Hulk on several occasions. Most recently, Hydra agents with Wasp's powers took down the Red Hulk no problem. Wasp beats Hulk in most instances where his anger levels have not reached ridiculous.

@jwalser3:

If that pressure wave was so powerful then how did the Fish survive it? Shouldn't they have been obliterated? Yet you have a scan of fish not only surviving it but also still alive. You just completely countered your own point.

The big difference here is that Iron Man's won't be trying to punch his way through. He'll have found the hatch that leads directly from the shoulder to the cockpit and just go in that way. The Jaegers have zero defense against this form of attack because they were not designed to deal with small and agile threats only big brutes.

@Jaeger Supporters: There is a door that leads directly to the cockpit. Until you can figure out a way to counter Iron Man just opening the door and taking out the pilots, Jaegers cannot win.

@diredrill: The fish were dead. They plopped down.

@jwalser3: But if that much force was hitting them, then they would have been obliterated. If they were able to take the pressure wave and still be relatively in tact then it was not as powerful as suggested.

@diredrill: I'm not saying that it was superduper powerful. But the fact that it pushed back the ocean is.

GD all day!!! It was built to fight Godzila type creatures that are normally a team level thread in Marvel Universe.....

@jwalser3: Pushing back the ocean likely ate all of the force it could have created making being hit by the wave fairly pitiful. Fact is, Gipsy did NOT tank a nuke, he tanked a fairly weak pressure wave that didn't even kill Fish. The idea that his durability is high is ridiculous and that Iron Man could not take him down, even Movie Iron Man, is even further ridiculous.

@diredrill: Just becuase it's underwater shouldn't lower the feat. I never said he tanked the blast directly. I even mentioned that he was 100 meters out.

And just because it didn't destroy all the fish shouldn't be an issue. Look at dynamite fishing. How come those fish didn't just get destroyed by it?

@jwalser3:

So Dynamite = Nuke? That is a poor comparison because the fish are the same scale but the explosion is not. It is a poor feat and is nowhere near as trumped up as everyone makes it.

Jaegers are poor combatants when pitted against foes they were not designed to take on.

Red Hulk =/= Hulk, and can you show me this "several" instances where Wasp has taken down Hulk. Because for someone who can handle himself for quite a long time against the whole avengers seems to be rather impossible for just Wasp to take Hulk down. Even Ant Man tried to burn his way out of Hulk and he couldn't.

"GD tanked an underwater nuke at range. You could do the same inside a refrigerator dude."

Lol.

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@flashgreatersigneveryone: I don't understand your response. May you clarify?

@supersaiyan_danger: he's agreeing with you, and complaining about marvel fanboys.

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