#1 Posted by All Pro_95 (34 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Iron Man Vs Electro would be a good battle because I don't know if Electro's electric power would work against Iron Man's armour. Who do you think would win and why?

#2 Posted by White Phantom (1760 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Iron Man, because his suit would give him info on Electro and tell him to hit him with water. But again, good fight.

#3 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio

true but electricity can mess up his armor making him unable to move.i saw that in a comic.+ electricity goes thourgh metal so electros shocks could reach the man behind the armor.its a tight fight

#4 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:

" true but electricity can mess up his armor making him unable to move.i saw that in a comic.+ electricity goes thourgh metal so electros shocks could reach the man behind the armor.its a tight fight "

I can only assume you have not read much Iron Man. Tony has shielded his armor from EMP long ago, and despite writers conveniently forgetting it, it does not make it any less true. Iron Man is far faster, immensely stronger and more versatile that Electro is (for the last part, mostly due to his far superior efficiency in the use of his abilities). Even if we did assume that bolts of electricity would harm Iron Man, Tony could easily erect force fields to prevent the armor from being breached. The force fields have withstood nuclear blasts on multiple occasions, a thunderbolt isn't going to pierce through them, and even if they could, Electro cannot produce that kind of firepower on his own. In the mean time, Iron Man's speed is sufficient to close the opening gap and KO Electro in one punch, and the great variety of weapons in his disposal is also sufficient to KO/kill Electro from long range - Electro is largely useless when it comes to forcefield generation, and that, against Iron Man is what dooms him in the first 10 seconds of the fight.
 
It's not a tight fight. It's a massacre.
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#5 Posted by Ultimate Magneto (1189 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Posted by Son Of Storm (11257 posts) - - Show Bio
And King Morpheus has spoken!
#7 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8 Posted by Son Of Storm (11257 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ 
Nice avy. Is that Rachel Grey
Looks like her.
#9 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm said:
" @Morpheus_ 
Nice avy. Is that Rachel Grey
Looks like her.
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I hadn't noticed your earlier post here. I'm going blind probably.
 
Yes, that is Rachel.
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#10 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio

nah, look how powerfull electro is.also he can create a force field who protects himself of iron mans rockets.shield threw a huge rocket on him.it didnt even move him.look in theese videos to see his power
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kv6eqkjqi0
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NE0wjh1QE&feature=related
no way iron man can beat this guy

#11 Edited by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:

"nah, look how powerfull electro is.also he can create a force field who protects himself of iron mans rockets.shield threw a huge rocket on him.it didnt even move him.look in theese videos to see his power  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kv6eqkjqi0  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NE0wjh1QE&feature=related no way iron man can beat this guy "


I can't use Youtube from work but i hope that is not the animated series with Spiderman. That is not cannon.
#12 Posted by Djokic43 (259 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:
" nah, look how powerfull electro is.also he can create a force field who protects himself of iron mans rockets.shield threw a huge rocket on him.it didnt even move him.look in theese videos to see his power  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kv6eqkjqi0  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NE0wjh1QE&feature=related no way iron man can beat this guy "
OMG are u serious...you cant use cartoons as canon, this is a comic book  site....use feats from comics, not cartoons.
#13 Posted by Djokic43 (259 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan: Yeah its the cartoon....
#14 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:

" nah, look how powerfull electro is.also he can create a force field who protects himself of iron mans rockets.shield threw a huge rocket on him.it didnt even move him.look in theese videos to see his power  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kv6eqkjqi0  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NE0wjh1QE&feature=related no way iron man can beat this guy "

 Are you serious?
 
In the same animated series, Electro was the Red Skull's son...Very accurate depiction of the character...
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#15 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio

This version of electro can beat iron man

#16 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Yep, and I feel the need to use the Thorbuster version of Iron Man, all of a sudden. Since we're using random ones, why not?
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#17 Posted by Djokic43 (259 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen: No even that version of electro can beat Iron Man.
#18 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio
@Djokic43 said:
" @celmaijmen: No even that version of electro can beat Iron Man. "
dude...he took on the sixth team+spiderman+the entire shield hellcarrier there is no way iron man can do that on his own
#19 Posted by Ultimate Magneto (1189 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen: Does it matter? The Electro being dealt with here is NOT the Spider-Man TAS version.
#20 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:

" @Djokic43 said:

" @celmaijmen: No even that version of electro can beat Iron Man. "
dude...he took on the sixth team+spiderman+the entire shield hellcarrier there is no way iron man can do that on his own "
You're right. He can, and has done better than that.
 
Beating Spider-man, Captain America and the 6 forgotten warriors is a feat? Really? Iron Man can one shoot any of them.
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#21 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @celmaijmen said:

" @Djokic43 said:

" @celmaijmen: No even that version of electro can beat Iron Man. "
dude...he took on the sixth team+spiderman+the entire shield hellcarrier there is no way iron man can do that on his own "
You're right. He can, and has done better than that.
 
Beating Spider-man, Captain America and the 6 forgotten warriors is a feat? Really? Iron Man can one shoot any of them.
"
I doubt it.Spiderman has beaten firelord i dont see why he can't beat ironman
#22 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @celmaijmen said:

" @Djokic43 said:

" @celmaijmen: No even that version of electro can beat Iron Man. "
dude...he took on the sixth team+spiderman+the entire shield hellcarrier there is no way iron man can do that on his own "
You're right. He can, and has done better than that.
 
Beating Spider-man, Captain America and the 6 forgotten warriors is a feat? Really? Iron Man can one shoot any of them.
"
I doubt it.Spiderman has beaten firelord i dont see why he can't beat ironman "
The fact that you seriously bring up the biggest PIS feat in Spider-man's career in an attempt for an argument ends the "debate" right here. But let me enlighten you as to what Iron Man can, or cannot  do.
 







The end.
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#23 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio

that was only spiderman.where are the other 6?where is the shield helicarer?besides tony stark knew about spiderman but spiderman didnt knew about iron man.a rematch with both knowing each other would show who the better is dont you think?

#24 Posted by Djokic43 (259 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_: Dont bother he just gonna say ELECTROOO!!!....like he did in Electro vs Magneto thread.Oh and Electro vs Iceman thread.The new generation of trolls has arrived! 
#25 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:

" that was only spiderman.where are the other 6?where is the shield helicarer?besides tony stark knew about spiderman but spiderman didnt knew about iron man.a rematch with both knowing each other would show who the better is dont you think? "

That's the section of the Iron Man's fight against the Secret Avengers (you don't know who they are, but that's alright) with Iron Man strictly beating Spider-man, which you said he couldn't do. Don't elude it because it doesn't suit you. 
 
 Spider-man didn't know Iron Man? Is that supposed to be a joke? Spider-man was Iron Man's second in command during Civil War, and Peter had been staying in Tony Stark's Tower (let me spell it out to you Stark = Iron Man) for years before that. Not only you have no clue on who Iron Man is and what he can do, but your knowledge on Spider-man is on an equal level. 
 
I give up on you. 
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#26 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio

spidermanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

#27 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio


@ Morpheus_

I have to say that was not a fair fight. 2 things that makes that more of a plot device win then anything. Ironman's Spidy sense  and IM ability to disable/send false information to SM's spidy sense. Now i am not saying IM is not going to win in a normal fight, just that i realy don't see that fight as a fair one.

#28 Posted by Ziro (1352 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man.
#29 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan said:
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@ Morpheus_

I have to say that was not a fair fight. 2 things that makes that more of a plot device win then anything. Ironman's Spidy sense  and IM ability to disable/send false information to SM's spidy sense. Now i am not saying IM is not going to win in a normal fight, just that i realy don't see that fight as a fair one.

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Actually, Spider-man and the Secret Avengers attacked Stark during a parlay with Captain America. They broke the rules in an attempt to catch him unaware. If anything, Spider-man and the SA did something "unfair" not the other way around. Iron Man hadn't prepared to fight anyone, let alone Spider-man - he was actually there in his civilian guise when the fight started. His ability to disable Spider-man's spider sense was an inherent ability of the armor at that point.
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#30 Posted by Ultimate Magneto (1189 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ziro said:
" Iron Man. "
I concur.
#31 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @celmaijmen said:

" that was only spiderman.where are the other 6?where is the shield helicarer?besides tony stark knew about spiderman but spiderman didnt knew about iron man.a rematch with both knowing each other would show who the better is dont you think? "

That's the section of the Iron Man's fight against the Secret Avengers (you don't know who they are, but that's alright) with Iron Man strictly beating Spider-man, which you said he couldn't do. Don't elude it because it doesn't suit you. 
 
 Spider-man didn't know Iron Man? Is that supposed to be a joke? Spider-man was Iron Man's second in command during Civil War, and Peter had been staying in Tony Stark's Tower (let me spell it out to you Stark = Iron Man) for years before that. Not only you have no clue on who Iron Man is and what he can do, but your knowledge on Spider-man is on an equal level. 
 
I give up on you.  "
what the hell is civil war
#32 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
"@Xan said:
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@ Morpheus_

I have to say that was not a fair fight. 2 things that makes that more of a plot device win then anything. Ironman's Spidy sense  and IM ability to disable/send false information to SM's spidy sense. Now i am not saying IM is not going to win in a normal fight, just that i realy don't see that fight as a fair one.

"
Actually, Spider-man and the Secret Avengers attacked Stark during a parlay with Captain America. They broke the rules in an attempt to catch him unaware. If anything, Spider-man and the SA did something "unfair" not the other way around. Iron Man hadn't prepared to fight anyone, let alone Spider-man - he was actually there in his civilian guise when the fight started. His ability to disable Spider-man's spider sense was an inherent ability of the armor at that point. "

I now that. I am speaking about what IM was able to do in the fight. He had some very specific abilities to neutralize SM. In real life what IM was able to do there is a very good tactic and "fair" one but as a exemple of how IM can beat the creap out of SM (he can do it anyway) is not a fair or good one. With SM's sense all "fucked up" is not much he can do and a big disadvantage.
#33 Posted by Djokic43 (259 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen: Now your either just messing with us and doing this just to annoy us or you just lost all your credibility on these forums...because whenever u post something im gonna post this sentence of yours....
#34 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @celmaijmen said:

" that was only spiderman.where are the other 6?where is the shield helicarer?besides tony stark knew about spiderman but spiderman didnt knew about iron man.a rematch with both knowing each other would show who the better is dont you think? "

That's the section of the Iron Man's fight against the Secret Avengers (you don't know who they are, but that's alright) with Iron Man strictly beating Spider-man, which you said he couldn't do. Don't elude it because it doesn't suit you. 
 
 Spider-man didn't know Iron Man? Is that supposed to be a joke? Spider-man was Iron Man's second in command during Civil War, and Peter had been staying in Tony Stark's Tower (let me spell it out to you Stark = Iron Man) for years before that. Not only you have no clue on who Iron Man is and what he can do, but your knowledge on Spider-man is on an equal level. 
 
I give up on you.  "
what the hell is civil war "

LOL. Try reading here at least. 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(comics
 
For me this was the moment when i started hating Stark and Mr. Fantastic .
#35 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

"@Xan said:
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@ Morpheus_

I have to say that was not a fair fight. 2 things that makes that more of a plot device win then anything. Ironman's Spidy sense  and IM ability to disable/send false information to SM's spidy sense. Now i am not saying IM is not going to win in a normal fight, just that i realy don't see that fight as a fair one.

"
Actually, Spider-man and the Secret Avengers attacked Stark during a parlay with Captain America. They broke the rules in an attempt to catch him unaware. If anything, Spider-man and the SA did something "unfair" not the other way around. Iron Man hadn't prepared to fight anyone, let alone Spider-man - he was actually there in his civilian guise when the fight started. His ability to disable Spider-man's spider sense was an inherent ability of the armor at that point. "
I now that. I am speaking about what IM was able to do in the fight. He had some very specific abilities to neutralize SM. In real life what IM was able to do there is a very good tactic and "fair" one but as a exemple of how IM can beat the creap out of SM (he can do it anyway) is not a fair or good one. With SM's sense all "fucked up" is not much he can do and a big disadvantage. "
That's Iron Man for you though. He's the thinker. Spider-man already knew that Iron Man had been getting feedback for his abilities (and specifically, his spider sense) from the Iron Spider suit, so he should have known better. Iron Man used that ability of his in order to neutralise Spider-man swiftly - no reason to prolong the fight. It was a part of Iron Man's regular set of abilities at that point. Like when She-Hulk came to fight him after learning he banished the Hulk into space. Stark was in a press conference. The two had a very close fight, until Iron Man injected her with nanites designed to take Hulk level beings down. He just had it in his equipment, and that was yet another occasion he defeated someone by having the correct component to use in his armor, despite being under a surprise attack. It's in his nature. Can't fault him for that.
 
@celmaijmen said:
" what the hell is civil war "
Civil War.
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#36 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
"@Xan said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

"@Xan said:
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@ Morpheus_

I have to say that was not a fair fight. 2 things that makes that more of a plot device win then anything. Ironman's Spidy sense  and IM ability to disable/send false information to SM's spidy sense. Now i am not saying IM is not going to win in a normal fight, just that i realy don't see that fight as a fair one.

"
Actually, Spider-man and the Secret Avengers attacked Stark during a parlay with Captain America. They broke the rules in an attempt to catch him unaware. If anything, Spider-man and the SA did something "unfair" not the other way around. Iron Man hadn't prepared to fight anyone, let alone Spider-man - he was actually there in his civilian guise when the fight started. His ability to disable Spider-man's spider sense was an inherent ability of the armor at that point. "
I now that. I am speaking about what IM was able to do in the fight. He had some very specific abilities to neutralize SM. In real life what IM was able to do there is a very good tactic and "fair" one but as a exemple of how IM can beat the creap out of SM (he can do it anyway) is not a fair or good one. With SM's sense all "fucked up" is not much he can do and a big disadvantage. "
That's Iron Man for you though. He's the thinker. Spider-man already knew that Iron Man had been getting feedback for his abilities (and specifically, his spider sense) from the Iron Spider suit, so he should have known better. Iron Man used that ability of his in order to neutralise Spider-man swiftly - no reason to prolong the fight. It was a part of Iron Man's regular set of abilities at that point. Like when She-Hulk came to fight him after learning he banished the Hulk into space. Stark was in a press conference. The two had a very close fight, until Iron Man injected her with nanites designed to take Hulk level beings down. He just had it in his equipment, and that was yet another occasion he defeated someone by having the correct component to use in his armor, despite being under a surprise attack. It's in his nature. Can't fault him for that.
 
@celmaijmen said:
" what the hell is civil war "
Civil War. "

Of course we can't fault him for that. It was a goot tactic and in caracter, not PIS or whatever. I am just saying that was not a good moment to gauge spiderman's strength. 
 
As for IM fight with She Hulk i belive he should have been able to put her down faster and with no need of the nanites. But perhaps he was holding back or something.
#37 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan said:
" Of course we can't fault him for that. It was a goot tactic and in caracter, not PIS or whatever. I am just saying that was not a good moment to gauge spiderman's strength.  As for IM fight with She Hulk i belive he should have been able to put her down faster and with no need of the nanites. But perhaps he was holding back or something. "
Spider-man is my favourite character, but he can't take on Iron Man, unless Straczynski is writing it. The method Iron Man used was, from the grant scope of his abilities, the most efficient concerning the task at hand, so we agree it's valid. Had it not been, I wouldn't have posted it.
 
He should have, but he was trying to talk her out of the fight most of the time.
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#38 Posted by celmaijmen (330 posts) - - Show Bio

DOnt show me thoose scans tony stark had a device witch influenced peters spider-sense without he was unable to dodge his attacks and to hit iron man.without that device it could be a fair fight

#39 Posted by OhTru (1583 posts) - - Show Bio
 
@Morpheus_ said:

" Spider-man is my favourite character, but he can't take on Iron Man, unless Straczynski is writing it. "

 
 
I think JMS gave Ironman due respect, he was unpopular at the time but still respected as a leader and the face of the military and registration. The reason Thor gave him such a beating was because of the Clone business and Thor had the OdinForceI only wished he kicked Reed's elastic butt also since Reed's hands were very dirty in the whole Civil War, Clor thing
 
@celmaijmen said:

" true but electricity can mess up his armor making him unable to move.i saw that in a comic.+ electricity goes thourgh metal so electros shocks could reach the man behind the armor.its a tight fight "

 
 
Back in the 80s Tony immunized his armor to electro magnetic attacks, MK VIII was magnetic, electric and emp proof
not even Magneto could stop him
 
 
Electro fought Extremis Ironman and the fight lasted about 2 seconds
#40 Posted by comicbookguy (281 posts) - - Show Bio
@celmaijmen said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @celmaijmen said:

" that was only spiderman.where are the other 6?where is the shield helicarer?besides tony stark knew about spiderman but spiderman didnt knew about iron man.a rematch with both knowing each other would show who the better is dont you think? "

That's the section of the Iron Man's fight against the Secret Avengers (you don't know who they are, but that's alright) with Iron Man strictly beating Spider-man, which you said he couldn't do. Don't elude it because it doesn't suit you. 
 
 Spider-man didn't know Iron Man? Is that supposed to be a joke? Spider-man was Iron Man's second in command during Civil War, and Peter had been staying in Tony Stark's Tower (let me spell it out to you Stark = Iron Man) for years before that. Not only you have no clue on who Iron Man is and what he can do, but your knowledge on Spider-man is on an equal level. 
 
I give up on you.  "
what the hell is civil war "

dude seriously read a comic because its pretty clear you dont... not to mention the fact that you back up your arguments by refering to cartoons becuause you have never read a comic,  and god if you think spiderman can beat iron man.. well theres no hope but then again you probably came to that opinion becuase you prefered the spiderman film to the iron man film