I'm not sure he can beat WW Hulk. He did ok with extremis, but that was using a very powerful hulkbuster platform. I'm not sure if bleeding edge armor has enough power output to take down hulk...
WWH had a lot of PIS, I think Ironman should have taken him out. Ironman's speed and ranged attacks means he could open up pain on Hulk without ever getting tagged.
Juggernaut would be a problem since he can't BFR, if Juggernuat is at full power it would be a stalemate
I think Tony would do very good here, not sure he would beat Barda, she's got great speed and energy projection so I don't think he would really have any advantage. His only chance would be to blitz her with
bullets, knives and laser-blasts....she is powerful but like Wonder Woman her skin seems vulnerable to cutting weapons
I think Barda may win but he cleans up on the rest of them
He stops either at 8, or 10, depending on if it's CW Abomination, or not. And I presume it is current Juggernaut since, without BFR the battle becomes rather futile against him.
People often forget that Tony had a secret weapon for Hulk (those nanites he was hitting everybody with), we never saw their effect because Hardball took the capsule out and Tony didn't know. With that said Tony with 10 hours of Prep and knowing who he's facing is smart enough to win these fights, they may not be easy and by no means will he come out untouched but he could do it. WWH, Superboy, and Big Barda are his biggest problems
@Walker696:I am not one to forget about the nanites (which worked perfectly on She-Hulk, for what it is worth), but he has no prep here at all, let alone 10 hours. He has 10 hours of rest in between matches, which is very different.
@Morpheus_: hmmmmmmmm I see that now, then yea he has a big problem, but Tony is great thinking on his feet though that's one thing u can't take away from him and don't forget he doesn't have to kill Hulk he can remove him from battle, I still think he can pull it off, don't know if he would live much longer after wards lol
@HumanNumber:@Gremlin From Kremlin: My apologies for not making it clear. This is Juggernaut before he became depowered. Not Classic, even though I chose that pic because I like it.
Colossus can give him trouble. Juggernaut can give him trouble. WW Hulk can give him trouble. He's not going to get pass Superboy or Big Barda.
When I mean give him trouble. I mean, it's debatable if he can get pass them or not with Bleeding Edge. I haven't seen enough of Bleeding Edge, just Extremis. Any feats to show Bleeding Edge armor in action?
Ironman loses at colossus or she hulk. Iron man is the biggest PIS in the history of Marvel except for captain america. Yes he is very cool and a popular character even I like him alot not more than Captain America but still. Iron man cant hurt Colossus or She hulk or any other powerhouse on that list but they have all shown capable of busting up things stronger than Iron Mans suit. It's crap how his suits get damaged in battle and they still work perfectly somehow. Super boy would smash Tony Starks no prob don't let your fandom cloud your judgement. Even I had to admit that Wolverine would lose to Cyclops in most conditions.
Bleeding edge is basically a walking plot device to make it possible for Starks to hang with guys that completely outclass him. Its a shape shifting Nano suit that has 360 degree vision and comes out of Starks skin. How he houses all that extra mass without dying is beyond me.
Hmmm... I'm not too sure of that. Tony's suits have always a bit over the top, but than again... look at Blue Beetle from DC, so I don't consider it too much of a difference, just different level. Even if it was a shape shifting nano suit with 360 degree vision. I'd like to see what kind of capabilities it has, from strength feats to speed feats and reaction timing and what kind of weaponry it can hold or use. Combat feats.
I mean, it's nice to make possible theories based on the character concept. But... I would like to see some concrete evidence through feats. Extremis was a beast, but... the only few things I see different with the Bleeding Edge as you mentioned is the wider span of vision and shape shifting and finally being able to be ready for combat at any given time (suit coming through the skin). The only thing about the suit that may be a big difference for me is the shape shifting part. But... I don't know how far he can take this, is a complete transformer, where he can shape shift into... i don't know... a tank or can he only shape shift his hand's into weapons? I'm not asking a literal question, but a question just to how far does this shape shifting qualities go.
Also... how much faster, stronger, durable, and reaction time is Bleeding Edge in comparison to the Extremis?
It can turn into clothing and pretty much any form of a weapon on Tony's body but that's all I know of it. I just don't like how Marvel feels the need to give characters like Starks these goofy over the top power ups that only exist so that they can hang with people that outclass them. Why don't they just make him into a robot like Ultron?
I think iron man is perfectly capatable of clearing this. From round 6 all the way to round 12, anyone of them could beat Iron man but so can iron man (assuming there is BFR against Juggernaut)
I'm going back on what I said I can't really see him getting past Abomination. He has a slight chance to though but if he does no way he gets past Juggs.
I do like Iron Man I just think they over do it sometimes. I mean the whole reason I started reading Marvel over DC is because they seemed to be more grounded in reality than DC but now its just getting plain wacky. Quick question and dont laugh. I havent read much of the Ultimate line but I am getting caught up on Ultimatum which is pretty good in concept but not so much execution because the idea of heroes dying like that isn't that bad because they lead very violent lives to begin with. It was just very poorly written. Now to my question, when Hawkeye and Hank found Blob eating Wasp was she already dead and he was eating her corpse or did he kill and eat her? Also while I am at it, why didnt Jean and Ice Man kill Sabertooth and Mystique when they showed up to the funeral even though Sabertooth murdered and like tried to eat Angel?
Sounds like a slight upgrade, comparable to Blue Beetle. But... his strength, durability, speed, and reaction time hasn't been spoken for, and it's leaving me to assume it's on par with the Extremis suit and if that's the case. I don't see him making it past my current vote, that he will be stopped by Superboy. If all the physical attributes of Tony's Bleeding Edge suit is the same as Extremis, than it would only require one significant blow from Superboy and it leaves me to believe, Tony just won't have the reaction time to know when and where Superboy will come and hit him or how to counter or avoid any strike. Tony to me would need some serious prep time, and sense he's going through a gauntlet. I don't think he will be getting it
Other power houses, Juggernaut, Colossus, etc. He's going to need to BFR them or use some serious strategy while using the environment to his advantage.
Marvel and DC, I don't think either or has more reality grounded to them. I mean the idea of gaining powers from a spider or gamma radiation is such as far fetched as an alien from a distant part of galaxy crash landing on Earth and growing up to be a hero. I think they just have a different way of doing things, but the result and the context is still the same.
If I remember right, I think Wasp was defeated by Blob and than he was cannibalizing on her.
But as for the Sabretooth and Mystique, not entirely sure. Maybe someone who reads Ultimate series and is up to date with it will see your post and can answer your question. But usually when things come down to things of that nature, it really has to with character relationship and how it's progressed and what lead them to such stands.
But I'm not too sure, it's been a while since I read Ultimate series. I just don't like it, mainly because it contradicts a lot of 616 stuff. Captain America injuring Hulk significantly where he can't even react and getting combo'd when this is a guy who pretty much tanks on ballistics capable of leveling city blocks. But I'm suppose to believe Captain America of peak human capabilities, near enhance levels not only stagger and hurt the Hulk, but do it to a degree where Hulk can barely fight back? Or Mljinor being lifted by Hulk with pure strength, when weight has nothing to do it but the enchantment of being worthy. I just can't concede to these things, Marvel had already made some of things concrete in 616, but Ultimate series just contradicts this flat out. But hey... That's me. But in other words, you're going to have to wait to see someone who knows about the Ultimate series to give you the answers.
Iron Man does not clear, he probably stops at Spider Man or Deathstroke. Have you even seen current Deathstroke, he's a god slayer basically and he can take Iron Man's attacks no problem with his Nth metal. Even if he somehow manages to beat Deathstroke, without prep, Spider-Man murders Iron Man.
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