Iron Man and War machine vs Cannonball and wonder man

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#1  Edited By Army2442

Random encounter

They are fighting in Asgard which is abandoned

The teams are half a mile away from each other

Standard equipment

No morals but not bloodlusted.

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#2  Edited By jeanroygrant

Team 2 if classic Wonder Man

Team 1 If Current Wonder Man

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@jeanroygrant said:

Team 2 if classic Wonder Man

Team 1 If Current Wonder Man

What's the discerning difference between the two "versions"?

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@Illuminatus said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Team 2 if classic Wonder Man

Team 1 If Current Wonder Man

What's the discerning difference between the two "versions"?

Classic Wonder Man fights with Thor

I heard current one couldn't even take on World War Hulks allies

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#5  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

@jeanroygrant said:

@Illuminatus said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Team 2 if classic Wonder Man

Team 1 If Current Wonder Man

What's the discerning difference between the two "versions"?

Classic Wonder Man fights with Thor

I heard current one couldn't even take on World War Hulks allies

Eh, I'm pretty sure Tony one-shotted Simon. Honestly, I think Cannonball is a greater threat to Tony and Rhodey than Simon is.

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Team 2 wins?

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Team 2 wins?

I doubt it. Simon won't be able to contend with Tony and Rhodey if they take to the air (which they most likely will), and CB won't be able to help much because of their suits' mobility whilst flying.

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@Illuminatus: Hmmm, good point. I think the two iron buddies will too much, as well. 
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@Illuminatus said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Illuminatus said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Team 2 if classic Wonder Man

Team 1 If Current Wonder Man

What's the discerning difference between the two "versions"?

Classic Wonder Man fights with Thor

I heard current one couldn't even take on World War Hulks allies

Eh, I'm pretty sure Tony one-shotted Simon. Honestly, I think Cannonball is a greater threat to Tony and Rhodey than Simon is.

Basically. Team 1 would have to play it smart and catch him off guard somehow. Simon isn't a threat.

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#10  Edited By Kuzman123

@JediXMan: Actually wonder man in the second annual proved too much for iron man he could have killed him if iron man didint trap him......

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@JediXMan: Actually wonder man in the second annual proved too much for iron man he could have killed him if iron man didint trap him......

He throws a punch at Tony, who grabs his arm and proceeds to place him in a containment field, ending the fight. At what point of time did he prove too much for Iron Man?

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@CitizenBane: Did you read this.....

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@CitizenBane: Did you read this.....

Yes. Here are the scans:

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Carol even remarks that they beat him "quick and easy".

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@CitizenBane: still I dont see iron man beating wonder man without the containment filed.

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@CitizenBane: still I dont see iron man beating wonder man without the containment filed.

That's besides the point. You said Wonder Man proved too much for Tony and almost killed him in the Avengers Annual, when in reality it took Stark about 5 seconds to win. I offered a correction, not an opinion.

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@CitizenBane: which is fine....but if he can use the field in this battle team 1 wins no prob.

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#17  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Illuminatus said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Illuminatus said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Team 2 if classic Wonder Man

Team 1 If Current Wonder Man

What's the discerning difference between the two "versions"?

Classic Wonder Man fights with Thor

I heard current one couldn't even take on World War Hulks allies

Eh, I'm pretty sure Tony one-shotted Simon. Honestly, I think Cannonball is a greater threat to Tony and Rhodey than Simon is.

Wait, wait, wait. Wonder Man is as strong as he was, but Iron Man just has a way to easily defeat him. The same with Pulsar, if she wouldn't use her speed. 
Wonder Man stomped Ms. Marvel currently, so I don't belive that he is so weak. 
And about WWHulk allias... WWH is full of PIS. Besides all Mighty Avengers stories didn't give WM as much attention as he deserved. I don't remember even one story in which Bendis let him be a "prime hero". 
 
Without energy trick - Wonder Man solo.
With energy trick - Sam would take out War Machine and probably Tony, if Iron won't outsmart him somehow.
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#18  Edited By Killemall

@CitizenBane said:

@Kuzman123 said:

@JediXMan: Actually wonder man in the second annual proved too much for iron man he could have killed him if iron man didint trap him......

He throws a punch at Tony, who grabs his arm and proceeds to place him in a containment field, ending the fight. At what point of time did he prove too much for Iron Man?

But in the same issue Wonder Man escaped easily at the end, suggesting he could have escaped anytime he wanted.

After all he's fueled by chaos magic and pretty hard to hurt physically.

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#19  Edited By Army2442

@CitizenBane: Is the containment field a part of his standard gear?

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Team two

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#21  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Army2442 said:

@CitizenBane: Is the containment field a part of his standard gear?

Doesn't matter, he always can disrupt Simon's ionic form as he did in one of first issues of current Avengers series.
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@czarny_samael666 said:

@Illuminatus said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Illuminatus said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Team 2 if classic Wonder Man

Team 1 If Current Wonder Man

What's the discerning difference between the two "versions"?

Classic Wonder Man fights with Thor

I heard current one couldn't even take on World War Hulks allies

Eh, I'm pretty sure Tony one-shotted Simon. Honestly, I think Cannonball is a greater threat to Tony and Rhodey than Simon is.

Wait, wait, wait. Wonder Man is as strong as he was, but Iron Man just has a way to easily defeat him. The same with Pulsar, if she wouldn't use her speed. Wonder Man stomped Ms. Marvel currently, so I don't belive that he is so weak. And about WWHulk allias... WWH is full of PIS. Besides all Mighty Avengers stories didn't give WM as much attention as he deserved. I don't remember even one story in which Bendis let him be a "prime hero". Without energy trick - Wonder Man solo. With energy trick - Sam would take out War Machine and probably Tony, if Iron won't outsmart him somehow.

I agree

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#23  Edited By sandiego008

Giving this to team 2.