Iron Fist Vs. Wolverine

@difficlus said:

@SlimJ87D: there's something i've always wondered. people with super reflexes. how fast would they have to be for someone like iron fist to dodge them? say from a handgun or assault rifle? 

I missed this somehow=P  Not sure on exact speeds...but we have feats of Danny avoiding point blank shots from handguns to assault rifles, and he is at least fast enough to keep up with Spidey in hand to hand, and he was even able to tag and take down a speedster (after taking some hits mind you) during his pre-upgrade era using some speed and tactics.  So he can dodge some pretty fast speeds.

                    @Super_SoldierXII:  The point striking system isn't taking into account Wolverine having access to %66.66 of his abilities.  You'r giving points on who struck more and accomplished more when you're not taking into account that if Wolverine didn't have his healing factor, fast recover and adamantium, would he have reacted the same when he was damaged? Would he have been able to block all those blows of the strike from Iron Fist behind the head hurt him much more than it did? No, the point system doesn't take into consideration of those factors.    My points:True. Wolverine bested Iron Fist with a handicap. False. Wolverine is a better H2H combatant because of the spar.  That's all I'm trying to say. 

                   

               

@Nitric said:

They Both Have Healing, But Wolverine's Is Better

They Both Have Incredible Fighting Skills, But Iron Fist's Are Better

They Both Have Insane Stamina, But Wolverine Also Is Higher In That Aspect

Wolverine Had Adamantium Claws, Iron Fist Can Utilize His Chi In Hundreds Of Different Ways.

If It Was A Judged Match, I Say Iron Fist. If It Was To The Death, Wolverine Of Course.

Totally agree with Nitric. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I Go with Wolverine. Rand and him will trade and Rand may even inflicy some heavy damage on Wolverine but i think wolverine gets a couple good shots on him and its game over.

meh

If its,Wolverine has already beaten Iron Fist.

If they have all their powers,it can go either way.

my money on wolverine

Iron Fist.

In the new avengers they sparred and agreed to no powers and wolverine put a hella whippin on I.f...everyone else was watching and just enjoying the match.

@AngelicPhoenix said:

In the new avengers they sparred and agreed to no powers and wolverine put a hella whippin on I.f...everyone else was watching and just enjoying the match.

Sparring matches are hardly proof of anything; if they were then Black Canary has beaten Wonder Woman.

Danny wins.

Wolverine.

@AngelicPhoenix said:

In the new avengers they sparred and agreed to no powers and wolverine put a hella whippin on I.f...everyone else was watching and just enjoying the match.

Did you not read this whole thread? It was a sparring match and Wolverine has powers that he can't turn of like I don't know... A healing factor and adamantium skeleton that's on 24/7?

Danny.

Iron Fist

Wolverine.

Proof :

@weaponx7: That only proves Wolverine is superior to someone in H2H who doesn't have an adimantium skeleton or a healing factor. That was a sparing match where they agreed not to use their powers, problem is Wolverines HF and adimantium skeleton are passive abilites. If Iron Fist was allowed his chi punches he'd probably BFR Wolverine with one direct hit. Those punches have KO'd Ragnarock and thrown Skaar (Hulks son) off his feet.

Both going all out Iron Fist has this.

@Morpheus_ said:

Iron Fist.

@Strider92: Yes, because Healing Factor plays such a HUGE role in non-lethal hand to hand combat practice. So what if Iron Fist's punch can BFR Wolverine if it lands? Iron Fist didn't land any punches in this match, not that he didn't try mind you. If that last hit were claws out, Iron Fist would have DIED. The whole point of that match was to see who could land a potentially lethal blow first, without actually seriously hurting the other person and Wolverine won. I'm not saying Iron Fist can't beat Wolverine but Wolverine clearly has the advantage in this fight.

Iron Fist would win this fight. He is faster and his IF is powerful enough to hurt Skaar and punch through a helicarrier. He has shown suffiant speed to casually dodge bullets and his chi augmentation takes his physical and mental capabilities to superhuman levels, gives him heightened awareness and senses to help him predicts attacks, and allows him to heal his body almost unconsciously. He also has long range attacks which he can use to his advantage since wolverine has none.

If Iron Fist is going all out with Chi, I'll definitely give him the majority here.

If he doesn't use Chi, the fight will end up like their famous sparring match.

Or their first encounter....

Just 2 things about there past fights:

1. There first fight took place before wolverine was well established. At this point he wasn't a martial artist. So wolverine has changed significantly since then.
2. As for there sparring match we have to keep in mind it was just a spar and not a serious fight. Not to mention it was written by Bendis. Bendis is horrible when it comes to power levels. I don't doubt that wolverines skill is comparable to iron fist in terms of skill but considering Bendis' track record with consistency I wouldn't take much away from it.

That said I am going with iron fist for a very slight majority. I think it comes down to who lands the first blow first and due to the way wolverine fights I think Danny will land the first blow. Its close though and a good case can be made either way.

Iron Fist has the ability to knock Skaar on his !@#, destroy Helicarrier in a single punch, and destroy an oncoming train filled with explosives in a single punch. I would say he has to fire power to KO Wolverine. Now we look at skill, I would say both are pretty skilled, probably fairly equal. Both have amazing speed, with Iron Fist able to catch bullets out of the air. In their fights, his fist have been able to withstand Wolverine's claws, grant it, at the time he said he won't be able to for long, but his powers have greatly increased since then, and Wolverine's claws have remained the same. I say Iron Fist 6 out 10.

@cable_extreme: Just one comment but it should be noted that when iron fist hit skaar it was later revealed that Skaar was a double agent. So Skaar was probably not fighting back.

So you're implying that he let Iron Fist hit him, and flew back without resisting?

Yes. Its possible.

Okay, though the Helicarrier and train feats are still at a level that can KO Wolverine.

@cable_extreme: I can agree with that. Especially considering Iron fist knows where to hit to make his blows most effective.

I thought this would be fun to bring up.

Iron fist wins. His iron fist can probably KO wolverine + the fact he has range attacks and can augment his physical status with his chi

Wolverine is just as capable of KO'ing Iron Fist and killing him for that matter.

50-50. All about which one gets the first hit.

What about iron fist's 'black black death touch'

Iron Fist fists Wolvies ass so bad that even Daken will feel bad for him.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Danny that much faster when chi amped?

Iron-fist.

@monsterstomp: He hits speeds somewhat comparable to Spider-Man's while chi amped.

@wolverine08: I gotta say, I'm not impressed with that. Dude can amp his strength to one-shot carriers but his speed is Spider-Man's level :(

wolverine wins iron fist will get tired first and iron fist would be lucky to knockout wolverine it's possible but not a guaranty but if wolverine hits fist with his claws in the head neck or stomach iron fist is done.

Danny

@vance_astro: I agree. But since Danny can use his chi to increase his speed and reflexes I think he would be able to hit him first. IF also has ranged attacks that he can dish out on wolverine until he sees a good opening

@stefano said:

I don't think Iron Fist is that much faster than Wolverine and even if he does get the "first" hit, he's not going to KO Wolverine in one blow.

Ranged attacks he uses pretty much never. Ranged attacks that are also avoidable by someone as skilled and as fast as Wolverine.

im going with Iron Fist

Rand. Wolverine won't go for a kill so all those saying "Ooo it only takes one good hit from Logan to end Rand." forget about it.

Logan

Danny

Thomas

Conversely, why would an in character Rand let loose on a friend like Wolverine? And Wolverine has stabbed people without killing them before.

@wolverine08 The fact that Logan left the X-Men and is now a villain?

Troll.