Wolverine was always getting punked back in the day. Afterall for Wolverine to have won in that scenario it would have meant Iron Fists death or serious injury.
Nowadays i think Wolverine would give him the zwei-zwei. Be some beautiful chop socky though.
Iron Fist can reinforce his body to make it like steel,he could enhance his strength,speed,and agility.His punch is strong enough to impact a train with the force of a nuke.
Not to mention this:
By now he has been upgraded and can utilize his Chi in better ways and is way stronger.Rand FTW
all he did was buy hiself sometime he even admitted that he couldnt stop logan and logan would eventually take him all it takes is one claw swipe which in a forum battle he is more likely to get then in a comic battle with another hero
o fooey TKO is just another way of saying i cant beat him but i hit him more then he hit me so i win by counting the punches even though his punches are near fatal to me and the few that landed seriously injured me... :P
also on your sabretooth comment sabe went back and beat the snot out of IF and told him he is only human with fancy kicks as he was smacking him around and "playing" with him..
IF beat old old classic sabe with no define powers but he cant beat logan's enemy sabretooth....
Iron Fist can swing a win by knock out but that is a risk because Wolverine has taken quite a lot of punishment without being knocked out. On the other hand, he has been knocked out by lesser power and skill than Iron Fist could muster as well. It is an iffy strategy.
" Iron Fist can swing a win by knock out but that is a risk because Wolverine has taken quite a lot of punishment without being knocked out. On the other hand, he has been knocked out by lesser power and skill than Iron Fist could muster as well. It is an iffy strategy. "
Do you believe that a nerve strike could work on Logan? DD was able to take him down with a nerve strike but there are people who believe it is PIS. I disagree! =]
" Iron Fist can swing a win by knock out but that is a risk because Wolverine has taken quite a lot of punishment without being knocked out. On the other hand, he has been knocked out by lesser power and skill than Iron Fist could muster as well. It is an iffy strategy. "
Do you believe that a nerve strike could work on Logan? DD was able to take him down with a nerve strike but there are people who believe it is PIS. I disagree! =] "
Yes. I believe that nerve strikes will absolutely work on Wolverine. There is no reason why they would not work. He regenerates and is unbreakable. At best his healing factor would heal the damage or effects of a nerve strike much faster than a normal person, maybe to the point where it may have no noticeable effect, but it still works on him.
"Yes. I believe that nerve strikes will absolutely work on Wolverine. There is no reason why they would not work. He regenerates and is unbreakable. At best his healing factor would heal the damage or effects of a nerve strike much faster than a normal person, maybe to the point where it may have no noticeable effect, but it still works on him. "
He showed resistance to nerve strikes against Echo.
@Morpheus_: I factored that in. I still believe that the nerve strike was successful, but his healing factor healed the effects very quickly. That and his will to push through pain.
" @Morpheus_: I factored that in. I still believe that the nerve strike was successful, but his healing factor healed the effects very quickly. That and his will to push through pain. "
It's possible. I am actually a supporter of your theory. I see no reason why nerve strikes would not affect Logan.
" @Morpheus_: I factored that in. I still believe that the nerve strike was successful, but his healing factor healed the effects very quickly. That and his will to push through pain. "
It's possible. I am actually a supporter of your theory. I see no reason why nerve strikes would not affect Logan. "
I remember with this was originally posted 2 years ago. Nitric would be proud! But I don't think I ever posted on this so I will say Iron Fist for sure.
" Iron Fist can swing a win by knock out but that is a risk because Wolverine has taken quite a lot of punishment without being knocked out. On the other hand, he has been knocked out by lesser power and skill than Iron Fist could muster as well. It is an iffy strategy. "
Do you believe that a nerve strike could work on Logan? DD was able to take him down with a nerve strike but there are people who believe it is PIS. I disagree! =] "
Yes. I believe that nerve strikes will absolutely work on Wolverine. There is no reason why they would not work. He regenerates and is unbreakable. At best his healing factor would heal the damage or effects of a nerve strike much faster than a normal person, maybe to the point where it may have no noticeable effect, but it still works on him. "
Fair enough! So how do you consider the instance with Daredevil?
" Iron Fist can swing a win by knock out but that is a risk because Wolverine has taken quite a lot of punishment without being knocked out. On the other hand, he has been knocked out by lesser power and skill than Iron Fist could muster as well. It is an iffy strategy. "
Do you believe that a nerve strike could work on Logan? DD was able to take him down with a nerve strike but there are people who believe it is PIS. I disagree! =] "
Yes. I believe that nerve strikes will absolutely work on Wolverine. There is no reason why they would not work. He regenerates and is unbreakable. At best his healing factor would heal the damage or effects of a nerve strike much faster than a normal person, maybe to the point where it may have no noticeable effect, but it still works on him. "
Fair enough! So how do you consider the instance with Daredevil?
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I consider that a crushed windpipe, not a nerve strike. Though I think it should not have taken that long to recover from it considering how localized the injury is, that he had no other injuries to heal, and how fast his healing factor has been shown in most occasions.
@erik: Oh, i see. Well, i always thought that DD could get the chance to beat Logan, because of nerve strikes/ pressure points! But if Logan can heal to fast from this, i really don't know how DD can beat him! =]
" @erik: Oh, i see. Well, i always thought that DD could get the chance to beat Logan, because of nerve strikes/ pressure points! But if Logan can heal to fast from this, i really don't know how DD can beat him! =] "
In Enemy of the State, Wolverine and Daredevil fought but Matt held his own. Some would say that is because Wolverine was trying to resist the brainwashing but I do not. Wolverine was fully consumed by the brainwashing as shown when they deprogrammed him. I think the fact that he was basically remote controlled is why Murdock was doing so well. In a fight that did not have special conditions, I believe that Logan would win.
@erik: I do believe that Logan can beat Daredevil if he is fighting like a real fighter and not like a savage man! I used to think that if Logan is fighting like an animal and he does not use the best of his ability, daredevil could take the chance and drop him with a specific strike like in that occasion that i posted. But since Logan should be able to heal from it, i really don't know how DD can beat him. Even if Logan is not at his best! =]
I'm bumping this for the simple reason that I disagree wholeheartedly that modern 616 Wolvie goes down to Iron Fist. That one battle written in the late 70's early 80's is pure crap ... back when the X-Men were jobbing themselves to Spiderman in SW and Wolverine's character wasn't even fleshed out. He was written as a mindless brawler.
Both characters in today's books? Wolverine takes a defnitive majority.
@TheCheeseStabber: I realize the Chi thing and alla that... his Chi strikes are still limited to his mental focus. They are not infinite in use. Logan can soak the hits. IF cannot. IF's no faster than Wolverine, no stronger and all Logan has to do is hit him once. Any street leveler one shotting Logan is pure PIS.
On top of all this, Marvel canon has both at same fighting levels. Honestly, Wolverine's HF does him a disservice as he can take a beat down and live to fight another day. And so most of the time, that's just what he does. If Marvel lets him hit IF it's game over. On paper, Logan destroys Danny.
Be interesting to hear your take on how? I just can't see it. Let's look purely at their consistent, modern high end showings to be fair to both. How does he hurt Logan enough to put him away before Logan does him in with one swipe of the claws? You really think if Marvel loses interest in keeping Rand alive that Logan cannot tag him? They're close enough in fighting ability (though I too give the edge to IF) but Logan is stronger, arguably faster (he has superior high end feats highlighting said speed than IF does in my opinion) and certainly worlds apart in durability. To me, saying IF can take a majority on Logan is akin to saying Wolverine can beat the Hulk.
Iron Fist. Not only are his powers physically damaging but spiritually. He's also done things that most heavy hitters can't do. When we thought was PIS he continued to show damaging forces to consistently show he can karate chop for earthquake like effects.
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