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#1 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist Vs Lady Shiva


As usual, if you don't know the characters, look them up before posting...

Iron Fist

Lady Shiva

Battle takes place in a locked cage... no weapons, standard hand to hand

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#2 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (11832 posts) - - Show Bio

did methos just post on battles 0.o my head hurts, anyways shiva would win since she has him outclassed i think.

#3 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

it happens...

if i think of an interesting battle or have something to say

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#4 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio

nope. She has him outclassed (in a small way) in skill but his iron fist is too much. have you seen what he is capable of these days?

#5 Posted by Vance Astro (91405 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist.

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#6 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (11832 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" Iron Fist. "
not without his iron fist, it's pure h2h and shiva has him beat by a small amount.
#7 Posted by SwaggaB0y (5262 posts) - - Show Bio

its not a weapon is it I thought that was a skill.

#8 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Powers are allowed.... just no weapons...

I was including the Iron Fist in the battle

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#9 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (11832 posts) - - Show Bio
@Methos said:
" Powers are allowed.... just no weapons...I was including the Iron Fist in the battleM "
then iron fist wins this.
#10 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
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@Methos said:
" Powers are allowed.... just no weapons...I was including the Iron Fist in the battleM "
then iron fist wins this."

Yep yep!
#11 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio

No simple martial artist can touch Iron Fist with his iron fists. His power is awesome now.

#12 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Danny wins

#13 Posted by SwaggaB0y (5262 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" Iron Fist. "

#14 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5489 posts) - - Show Bio

I really like Shiva and in a different setting I would give her the win. In a locked cage, however, this would go to Iron Fist.  But it won't be an easy one.

#15 Posted by Chaos Agent (2150 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron fist

@StrongestOneThereIs said:
"

No simple martial artist can touch Iron Fist with his iron fists. His power is awesome now.

"
Judomaster can

#16 Posted by Dane (10649 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist.

#17 Posted by King Saturn (225092 posts) - - Show Bio
Iron Fist defeat Lady Shiva in a solid fight
#18 Posted by Dane (10649 posts) - - Show Bio

Her Kung Fu is probably a bit over his but his Chi enhanced abilities give him the edge.

#19 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@Chaos Agent said:
"Iron fist

@StrongestOneThereIs said:
"

No simple martial artist can touch Iron Fist with his iron fists. His power is awesome now.

"
Judomaster can"
nope. cause he don't have to attack her directly with his iron fist powers to hit her. she only avoids direct attacks.
#20 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist is to much for Shiva. The best she could hope for is an escape. Without powers though she'd stomp him (in my opinion)

#21 Posted by Vance Astro (91405 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler said:
Without powers though she'd stomp him (in my opinion) "
Agreed.
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#22 Posted by Kentaxx (2350 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think its fair to give IF chi abilities in these kind of fights
I have seen him knock Colossus on his @ss with that thing

Otherwise I agree with Gamblers post

#23 Edited by BIackFlash (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

Lady Shiva maybe, but she's becoming more useless in recent years
Robin beat her using no-style hood fighting techniques LMFAO
 
Shiva can win if she's at her peak and not jobbing

#24 Posted by Secret Turchin Man (1852 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Chi powers stack the deck for Danny, but I think in one fight without chi powers Danny could still win. He knows all the styles of K'un - L'un, as Shiva has never even heard of these styles let alone actually seen anyone use them, Danny might have an edge without chi.

#25 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5498 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist would beat the shit outta lady shiva

#26 Posted by Johnny_Nemesis (2137 posts) - - Show Bio
@BIackFlash said:
" Lady Shiva maybe, but she's becoming more useless in recent years Robin beat her using no-style hood fighting techniques LMFAO  Shiva can win if she's at her peak and not jobbing "
She was poisoned at that time
#27 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10829 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist

#28 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
@Johnny_Nemesis said:
" @BIackFlash said:
" Lady Shiva maybe, but she's becoming more useless in recent years Robin beat her using no-style hood fighting techniques LMFAO  Shiva can win if she's at her peak and not jobbing "
She was poisoned at that time "
Exactly. And she still got off a shot on him.
#29 Posted by No_Name_ (12593 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler said:
" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
" @BIackFlash said:
" Lady Shiva maybe, but she's becoming more useless in recent years Robin beat her using no-style hood fighting techniques LMFAO  Shiva can win if she's at her peak and not jobbing "
She was poisoned at that time "
Exactly. And she still got off a shot on him. "
How did I know you would be in here.
#30 Posted by King Saturn (225092 posts) - - Show Bio
Iron Fist should be able to win here
#31 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (11832 posts) - - Show Bio

IF should win but i could see shiva pulling out a win
#32 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
@Babs said:
" @Gambler said:
" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
" @BIackFlash said:
" Lady Shiva maybe, but she's becoming more useless in recent years Robin beat her using no-style hood fighting techniques LMFAO  Shiva can win if she's at her peak and not jobbing "
She was poisoned at that time "
Exactly. And she still got off a shot on him. "
How did I know you would be in here. "
I'm predictable like that.
#33 Posted by No_Name_ (12593 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler said:
" @Babs said:
" @Gambler said:
" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
" @BIackFlash said:
" Lady Shiva maybe, but she's becoming more useless in recent years Robin beat her using no-style hood fighting techniques LMFAO  Shiva can win if she's at her peak and not jobbing "
She was poisoned at that time "
Exactly. And she still got off a shot on him. "
How did I know you would be in here. "
I'm predictable like that. "
Surprised I didn't see more.
#34 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

I try to control my fanboyism.

#35 Posted by TruePwnge (2729 posts) - - Show Bio

Without Chi force Shiva wins

#36 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

It should be a close fight. I think Iron Fist's chi will grant him the win.

#37 Edited by koshi_waza88 (2106 posts) - - Show Bio

You know lady Shiva was beaten by Conner Hawke (green arrow) in a hand 2 hand combat ..

#38 Edited by CaptainMarvelThunder (1107 posts) - - Show Bio

Since Ironfist cannot use his ultimate attack. I'm going to go with Lady Shiva.

#39 Posted by Super_Buck (1592 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman was able to stalemate her, Iron Fist can do the same if not just beat her.

#40 Posted by dimitridkatsis (2587 posts) - - Show Bio

It says no weapons not no chi attack but anyway i say Fist.

#41 Edited by Pr0metheus (5471 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist absolutely curbstomps.

It is competely unfair to allow him to fist her.

#42 Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen (6205 posts) - - Show Bio

Rand dominates.

#43 Edited by Bat_Girl_CC (3488 posts) - - Show Bio

@koshi_waza88 said:

You know lady Shiva was beaten by Conner Hawke (green arrow) in a hand 2 hand combat ..

Wrong, Lady Shiva won that fight:

#44 Posted by Bat_Girl_CC (3488 posts) - - Show Bio

Full-Chi-Power Iron Fist - Danny stomps

Base-Chi Iron Fist - Stallemate / Shiva wins

No-Chi Iron Fist - Shiva stomps

#45 Posted by Frisky4 (1765 posts) - - Show Bio

Shiva is credited as the world's best martial artist in DC, but that alone doesn't guarantee her the victory in this scenario. See, Iron Fist (Daniel Rand) is credited as the best martial artist from Marvel. So this has to be one of the definitive DC Vs Marvel rivalries. When I thought this over I realized that Lady Shiva is trained to kill, and though Iron Fist knows how, he has designed his fighting style around killing. Once again, I don't think that seals the deal for Shiva. I think Iron Fist wins because he has ways of fighting Shiva would have no idea about. I assume Shiva knows some very deadly martial arts that Danny doesn't, and she can read people like books, but she would have no notion of how powerful the Iron Fist is, or what it does in general. She would either play very defensive and safe, or she would fight like she would regularly. Either way, I think Danny wins. Shiva has only been beaten once and that was by her daughter, so it's not impossible to say that she held back. So let's compare her daughter, Cassandra Cain (who can also read people), to someone in the Marvel universe who is only slightly behind Iron Fist in the martial arts category: Matt Murdock. Daredevil can sense movement before it happens, yet (in the closest thing to an official list from Marvel) he is put at #5 to Iron Fist's #1 rank as the best martial artist (and it recognizes DD's radar sense as part of his way of fighting). My Final Conclusion Iron Fist (Daniel Rand) Vs Lady Shiva: Iron Fist Iron Fist (Orson Randall) Vs Lady Shiva: Lady Shiva

#46 Posted by New52Collector (469 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist

#47 Posted by Young_Murloc (696 posts) - - Show Bio

Fist

#48 Posted by axle124 (782 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4: Shiva isn't the best martial artist in dc that would be val....Shiva is in the top tier but she isn't the best.... Danny is the top dog in Marvel... without his iron fist he still has more skill than anyone in my opinion but it is at least debatable....

#49 Posted by Frisky4 (1765 posts) - - Show Bio

@axle124: I believe she was credited to be the best in DC at a point, but nothing always stays the same in comics.

#50 Edited by axle124 (782 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4:

I believe bruce said she was the best at one time,,, but that isn't the case,,, Val lives in the 30th century so technically bruce wouldn't include him when he says that,,, but again I Think,, Cass, Sandra, ben turner, slade, Richard dragon, constine drakkon(I know I misspelled this), and maybe bruce and connor hawke are all interchangeable... Meaning they can beat each other in skill department...