Iron Fist & Fat Cobra versus Cyber & Omega Red

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#1  Edited By texasdeathmatch
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#2  Edited By Decoy Elite

Team 1 have a counter for Death spores?

I'm thinking they don't...

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#3  Edited By ReVamp

IF blows up the Helicarrier and they all die... including IF... excluding Red... :/

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#4  Edited By D3athstroke

Anyone who can out drink Hercules and out eat Volstagg can beat OR

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#5  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite said:

Team 1 have a counter for Death spores?

I'm thinking they don't...

Spores aren't an instant kill, and I'm pretty sure Team 1 can use their chi to filter out them out.
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#6  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch said:

@Decoy Elite said:

Team 1 have a counter for Death spores?

I'm thinking they don't...

Spores aren't an instant kill, and I'm pretty sure Team 1 can use their chi to filter out them out.

I know but they'll weaken Team 1 quite a bit...

They ever do something similar?

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#7  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite: People with healing factors have survived his death spores before, and Danny has shown to be able to use his chi at a subconscious level. 
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#8  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch: He still has to do so while fighting Omega Red and Cyber.

Fat Cobra able to heal himself subconsciously?

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#9  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite: Iron Fist has been weakened before and been able to perform exceptionally
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#10  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch: What did he pull off weakened? Anything impressive enough to take down team 2?

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#11  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Danny was being gradually poisoned an entire day and he used his chi to completely purge it out of his system and even caught a sniper bullet halfway through. If he's aware of the death-spores, it's likely he'd be able to pull off something similar.
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#12  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite: I'm not sure about Fat Cobra cause I haven't ever seen him have to heal before, haha, but I assumed he'd have the same healing abilities as Iron Fist.
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#13  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch: He has the same powers as Iron Fist?

@Morpheus_: He ever face off against Omega Red before?

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#14  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite: Not the same (Cobra's got some WILD moves), but I was under the impression that all of the Immortal Weapons could use their chi as a healing factor. 
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#15  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch: Not gonna lie, I wouldn't know. >.> <.< >.>

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#16  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite: Yeah it sucks, from what I've read, Fat Cobra's never had to use his healing factor, haha, so I can't say for sure. Have you read the Immortal Iron FIst? 
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#17  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch: I haven't read anything with Iron Fist TBH, that's why I'm asking so many questions.

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#18  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_: He ever face off against Omega Red before?

No, never.
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#19  Edited By Decoy Elite

@Morpheus_ said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_: He ever face off against Omega Red before?

No, never.

Any chance Wolverine could have told him about the death spores?

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#20  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite: Yeah, I've just recently finished reading that trade, its quite gooooood. But here are some cool things with Iron FIst: 
 
Taking on the Wrecking Crew:
Absorbing radiation and magic: 
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#21  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_: He ever face off against Omega Red before?

No, never.

Any chance Wolverine could have told him about the death spores?

Well, that's speculative, but I guess it's possible. But we can't know for certain, one way or the other.
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#22  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Iron Fist & Fat Cobra.

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#23  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Morpheus_ said:
@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_: He ever face off against Omega Red before?

No, never.

Any chance Wolverine could have told him about the death spores?

Well, that's speculative, but I guess it's possible. But we can't know for certain, one way or the other.
Well for the sake of a battle, let's just say Team 1 is aware of the spores, or figures it out relatively quickly. 
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#24  Edited By Decoy Elite

@Morpheus_: Hurm, is there way for him to sense the Death Spores?

@Vance Astro said:

Iron Fist & Fat Cobra.

What makes you say that?

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#25  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch said:

@Morpheus_ said:
Well, that's speculative, but I guess it's possible. But we can't know for certain, one way or the other.
Well for the sake of a battle, let's just say Team 1 is aware of the spores, or figures it out relatively quickly.

Oh, well my last question is moot now.

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#26  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_: Hurm, is there way for him to sense the Death Spores?

@Vance Astro said:

Iron Fist & Fat Cobra.

What makes you say that?

A Sumo Thunderstomp will ruin Omega Red's day.Once he's out...Cyber will have to take two Immortal Weapons.
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#27  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite: haha sorry
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#28  Edited By Decoy Elite

@Vance Astro said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_: Hurm, is there way for him to sense the Death Spores?

@Vance Astro said:

Iron Fist & Fat Cobra.

What makes you say that?

A Sumo Thunderstomp will ruin Omega Red's day.

You think that'd be enough by itself?

Not to mention there's still Cyber...who is screwed once they go for his face. >.> <.< >.>

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#29  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch said:

@Decoy Elite: haha sorry

It's cool, makes the debate easier for everybody anyway.

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#30  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Vance Astro said:
@Decoy Elite said:

@Morpheus_: Hurm, is there way for him to sense the Death Spores?

@Vance Astro said:

Iron Fist & Fat Cobra.

What makes you say that?

A Sumo Thunderstomp will ruin Omega Red's day.Once he's out...Cyber will have to take two Immortal Weapons.
Sumo Thunderstomp is a game changer, but I don't think it would instantly KO Omega Red.
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#31  Edited By texasdeathmatch

And for anyone doubting Cyber's durability: 

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And apparently he tanks the train, but I don't have that scan.
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#32  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@texasdeathmatch said:
Sumo Thunderstomp is a game changer, but I don't think it would instantly KO Omega Red.
Maybe not but i'm trying to find ways that Fat Cobra can attack and it will either blow Omega Red back or attack him from a distance because I don't know if he has any answer for the spores. I've seen him use a thunderclap as well.
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#33  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Vance Astro: Oh yeah, he's got several range attacks from what I've seen. You think they're enough to keep Arkady back? 
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#34  Edited By ReVamp

Doesn't Omega take punches from Colossus? Can Fat Cobra match that level of strength?

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#35  Edited By MyronLee26

@Decoy Elite said:

Team 1 have a counter for Death spores?

I'm thinking they don't...

Well, Iron Fist has healed himself from being poisoned and radiation from Radion before. And that was before his abilities were enhanced from reading the Book of Iron Fist.

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#36  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@ReVamp said:

Doesn't Omega take punches from Colossus? Can Fat Cobra match that level of strength?

Well Omega had to absorb some of Colossus' life force before he struck him, I think. 
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#37  Edited By ReVamp

@texasdeathmatch said:

@ReVamp said:

Doesn't Omega take punches from Colossus? Can Fat Cobra match that level of strength?

Well Omega had to absorb some of Colossus' life force before he struck him, I think.

Huh...

Thinks for a bit.

Well, I'll just leave it to the pros.

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#38  Edited By nefarious

Team 1 wins this battle.

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#39  Edited By PrinceIMC

Speaking for Fat Cobra's healing factor I'm pretty sure he was bitten in half by a dragon before he even became an Immortal Weapon and not only survived but regenerated. And as for Iron Fist's immunity to spores I remember early in his career he was unaffected by the spores of an alien plant that should have killed him, and it was automatic, he didn't have to concentrate or anything. So I think Team 1 wins.

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#40  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@ReVamp said:

Doesn't Omega take punches from Colossus? Can Fat Cobra match that level of strength?

Wasn't he KO'd by Nightcrawler teleporting into the air and then dropping him?
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#41  Edited By ReVamp

@Vance Astro said:

@ReVamp said:

Doesn't Omega take punches from Colossus? Can Fat Cobra match that level of strength?

Wasn't he KO'd by Nightcrawler teleporting into the air and then dropping him?

Lol. As I've said before, I know little about Red.

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#42  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

I see this as durability versus skill.

Chi may negate the death spores, or stave them off, for a time. But not indefinitely IMHO. The death spores KO'd an entire squad of X-Men in the space of a few short panels afterall (enhanced Rogue among them!).

While Arkady's durability is insane, I think the combination of skill and the power of the Iron Fist (which I feel hits akin to a class 100 these days when unleashed) should prove too much for Arkady if Danny can stave off the DS. Unlike Colossus, Danny knows how to hit where it hurts and throws far faster and far more effective combinations.

Fat Cobra can dance with Cyber in the interim. But how the hell are they going to take Cyber out of the game? He's a top tier fighter in his own right ... would his chin prove to be a weakness like the Rhino?

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#43  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Super_SoldierXII said:

Fat Cobra can dance with Cyber in the interim. But how the hell are they going to take Cyber out of the game? He's a top tier fighter in his own right ... would his chin prove to be a weakness like the Rhino?

You'd think so, but I don't think there's ever been an instance where he's shown weakness from his exposed face...other than when Genesis used those bugs to eat him up. 
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#44  Edited By Decoy Elite

@Vance Astro said:

@ReVamp said:

Doesn't Omega take punches from Colossus? Can Fat Cobra match that level of strength?

Wasn't he KO'd by Nightcrawler teleporting into the air and then dropping him?

From what I heard he did it by doing so repeatably. It was basically a variant of teleblitz.

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#45  Edited By whacknasty

@texasdeathmatch: Awesome match! So awesome in fact...I am a bit stuck on picking a definite winner...lol.

I'll say the Immortal Weapons for now, leaning more towards the combined amount of h2h skill and techniques being too much for team two.

Both should be able to use their chi to purge the poisons from Cyber's nails hopefully, or I could be wrong...lol. That is concerning me though...those toxins are supposed to be lethal without a healing factor, right? : /

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#46  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Decoy Elite said:

@Vance Astro said:

@ReVamp said:

Doesn't Omega take punches from Colossus? Can Fat Cobra match that level of strength?

Wasn't he KO'd by Nightcrawler teleporting into the air and then dropping him?

From what I heard he did it by doing so repeatably. It was basically a variant of teleblitz.

I think he only dropped him once, but it was from a pretty high point 
 
@whacknasty said:

@texasdeathmatch: Awesome match! So awesome in fact...I am a bit stuck on picking a definite winner...lol.

I'll say the Immortal Weapons for now, leaning more towards the combined amount of h2h skill and techniques being too much for team two.

Both should be able to use their chi to purge the poisons from Cyber's nails hopefully, or I could be wrong...lol. That is concerning me though...those toxins are supposed to be lethal without a healing factor, right? : /

You'll have to ask k4tzm4n about that, he knows everything about Cyber. But I know he's no slouch in h2h either, he's been able to slap around Wolverine on several occasions. 
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#47  Edited By Decoy Elite

@texasdeathmatch: Then I have been had! Curses!

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Cyber is honestly pretty damn impressive and with Omega Red running interference, especially with spores I think team 2 can win