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#1  Edited By wolverine 99

no prep

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#2  Edited By nicknicholby

I actually think emma could win this.

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#3  Edited By doordoor123

invisible woman

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#4  Edited By DEGRAAF

Emma no problem unless she has to see or be touching the person to mind control them

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#5  Edited By karrob

Emma

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#6  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

(wrong board)
 
Emma should win. And I doubt the bubble-in-the-brain thing will work on a diamond head.

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#7  Edited By Alexman113

If Sue gets her shield up, then Emma's powers cant work through it. Jean's powers were negated by the shield, so I don't see why Emma would be any different.

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#8  Edited By Matezoide2

Susan wins

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#10  Edited By council elite
@alexman113 said:
" If Sue gets her shield up, then Emma's powers cant work through it. Jean's powers were negated by the shield, so I don't see why Emma would be any different. "
agreed.
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#11  Edited By charlieboy

i would have to go with sue here. her force fields and level of experience would trump emma frost. plus she has defeated people that affect the mind. like the psycho man.
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#12  Edited By nikbackm
@alexman113 said:

" If Sue gets her shield up, then Emma's powers cant work through it. Jean's powers were negated by the shield, so I don't see why Emma would be any different. "

Why not? Light and sounds make it through just fine, so telepathy should work just as well. TK is another matter, as it's similar to Sue's shield in a way, they likely cancel each other out. (The Jean Grey version Sue got the better of only had TK at the time).
 
Besides, we already saw Emma's TP affect Sue and the others behind her shields in X4 #1 (X-Men/Fantastic four mini from 2005). 
 
The winner in this case would likely be whoever strikes first, as both powers work with the speed of thought.
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#13  Edited By spidey 15
@nikbackm said:
" @alexman113 said:

" If Sue gets her shield up, then Emma's powers cant work through it. Jean's powers were negated by the shield, so I don't see why Emma would be any different. "

Why not? Light and sounds make it through just fine, so telepathy should work just as well. TK is another matter, as it's similar to Sue's shield in a way, they likely cancel each other out. (The Jean Grey version Sue got the better of only had TK at the time). Besides, we already saw Emma's TP affect Sue and the others behind her shields in X4 #1 (X-Men/Fantastic four mini from 2005).   The winner in this case would likely be whoever strikes first, as both powers work with the speed of thought. "
I agree with you but i'll disagree with one thing....sound can't make it through the shield...during American son arc where spidey fought venom....venom run away and try to call for help from bullseye but there was Sue and block his voice with a shield...=]
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#14  Edited By Matezoide2
@nikbackm said:
" @alexman113 said:

" If Sue gets her shield up, then Emma's powers cant work through it. Jean's powers were negated by the shield, so I don't see why Emma would be any different. "

Why not? Light and sounds make it through just fine, so telepathy should work just as well. TK is another matter, as it's similar to Sue's shield in a way, they likely cancel each other out. (The Jean Grey version Sue got the better of only had TK at the time). Besides, we already saw Emma's TP affect Sue and the others behind her shields in X4 #1 (X-Men/Fantastic four mini from 2005).   The winner in this case would likely be whoever strikes first, as both powers work with the speed of thought. "
theres no evidence Susan used the force field to make a dome,just a wall
also,it has blocked Jean Grey and Psylord's (who is superior to Emma)
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#15  Edited By Matezoide2
@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @nikbackm said:
" @alexman113 said:

" If Sue gets her shield up, then Emma's powers cant work through it. Jean's powers were negated by the shield, so I don't see why Emma would be any different. "

Why not? Light and sounds make it through just fine, so telepathy should work just as well. TK is another matter, as it's similar to Sue's shield in a way, they likely cancel each other out. (The Jean Grey version Sue got the better of only had TK at the time). Besides, we already saw Emma's TP affect Sue and the others behind her shields in X4 #1 (X-Men/Fantastic four mini from 2005).   The winner in this case would likely be whoever strikes first, as both powers work with the speed of thought. "
theres no evidence Susan used the force field to make a dome,just a wall also,it has blocked Jean Grey and Psylord's (who is superior to Emma) "
it blocked hard psi not telepathy, Jean was not a telepath and Psi Lord was attacking with tangible psionic force, he used telepathy after the shield was down, but that is no indication that he couldn't before, as his tactics had clearly changed.  Sues shield has been proven ineffective to telepathy three times, Cable, Onslaught and apparently Emma Frost have used telepathy through her shield. "
then why Psilord had to trick her to stop using her shields in order to enter her mind?
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#16  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30

I'd go with Emma ftw. I am not convinced that IW's forcefields can block out TP.
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#18  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30

@Edamame:
I've already seen this scan and in reading the text Jean was using TK and not TP. IW was referencing a "floating trick...." which indicates TK. I have also seen the scan of Emma using TP while IW was in her forcefield and she was effected.  

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#19  Edited By Theodore

Emma

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#20  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

BUMP

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#21  Edited By Erik

Susan. 

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No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts.
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#23  Edited By Erik
@Jake Fury said:
" No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts. "
Susan's shields are instant and instinctual. 
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#24  Edited By WARLOCK2792
@erik said:
" @Jake Fury said:
" No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts. "
Susan's shields are instant and instinctual.  "

Aren't Sue's powers psionic?
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#25  Edited By Son Of Storm
@White Mage said:

" @erik said:

" @Jake Fury said:
" No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts. "
Susan's shields are instant and instinctual.  "
Aren't Sue's powers psionic? "
 I believe in one issue she knocked Emma out stating "Her powers isn't the only one that works at the speed of thought."
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#26  Edited By Erik
@White Mage said:
" @erik said:
" @Jake Fury said:
" No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts. "
Susan's shields are instant and instinctual.  "
Aren't Sue's powers psionic? "
No. Her powers are hyperspace based. Celestial energy. 
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#27  Edited By daken_2513

Emma Frost
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#28  Edited By Son Of Storm
@erik said:
" @White Mage said:
" @erik said:
" @Jake Fury said:
" No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts. "
Susan's shields are instant and instinctual.  "
Aren't Sue's powers psionic? "
No. Her powers are hyperspace based. Celestial energy.  "
But they still work at the speed of thought.
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#29  Edited By Erik
@Son Of Storm said:
" @erik said:
" @White Mage said:
" @erik said:
" @Jake Fury said:
" No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts. "
Susan's shields are instant and instinctual.  "
Aren't Sue's powers psionic? "
No. Her powers are hyperspace based. Celestial energy.  "
But they still work at the speed of thought. "
Faster because she does not have to think to activate her powers. It is instinctual. 
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@Edamame said:
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@erik said:
" @White Mage said:
" @erik said:
" @Jake Fury said:
" No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts. "
Susan's shields are instant and instinctual.  "
Aren't Sue's powers psionic? "
No. Her powers are hyperspace based. Celestial energy.  "
Hyperspatial energy. "

 
 
This was after Jean's rebirth right? I don't even think she had her telepathy then.
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#32  Edited By Erik
@Jake Fury:  
I am pretty sure she did have it then. 
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#33  Edited By Son Of Storm
@Jake Fury said:
" @Edamame said:
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No Caption Provided

 
 
@erik said:
" @White Mage said:
" @erik said:
" @Jake Fury said:
" No prep. I think Emma could take her out with telepathy before Sue reacts. "
Susan's shields are instant and instinctual.  "
Aren't Sue's powers psionic? "
No. Her powers are hyperspace based. Celestial energy.  "
Hyperspatial energy. "
  This was after Jean's rebirth right? I don't even think she had her telepathy then. "
She didn't. But she didn't know which is why she thought Sue was a robot.
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It's a tough call. It's really comes down to who the faster thinker is. Whoever thinks fastest wins this match.
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#36  Edited By Erik

Susan Storm.  
 
Storm fans should back me up on this because of the bolded text anyway. 

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@Edamame said:
" @Jake Fury: Nevertheless, it is fun seeing a blonde against a redhead.  LMAO "

LOL, IMHO they're the two best looking women in Marvel history.
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#38  Edited By charlieboy

jean was not a tp then. does anybody have any evidence of sue getting taken down by a tp with her shield up? i know i saw one scan but it was not canon. i still think sue can beat emma.
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#39  Edited By Son Of Storm
@erik said:
" Susan Storm.   Storm fans should back me up on this because of the bolded text anyway.  "
Yous funny.
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#40  Edited By charlieboy

lol
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#41  Edited By X-23_2513

emma frost woud win
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#42  Edited By Erik
@X-23_2513 said:
" emma frost woud win "
No. She would not. 
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#44  Edited By Son Of Storm
@X-23_2513 said:
" emma frost woud win "
Correct......................................If this was a "who can show the most skin in one costume" battle.
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@Edamame:
Emma is a total hottie but she'll always finish behind Sue & Jean in my book. 
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#47  Edited By Doombot_666

It doesn't look like Sue's shields can block the kind of invasive telepathy that Emma uses, so Sue has no way to keep Emma from mind-raping her. The White Queen wins.

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Emma Frost  
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#49  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@Jake Fury said:
" @Edamame: Emma is a total hottie but she'll always finish behind Sue & Jean in my book.  "

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#50  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30
@erik said:
"Susan Storm.   Storm fans should back me up on this because of the bolded text anyway.  "

LOL...