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Insane Genis-Vell vs Void and DS Sentry
GV.
Team most often than not unless Entropy himself is involved.
Can anyone explain how the team would win or even take down Insane Genis-Vell? He IGV has more raw power than either on team 2, being that he was able to bust a universe and recreate it iirc.
Can anyone explain how the team would win or even take down Insane Genis-Vell? He IGV has more raw power than either on team 2, being that he was able to bust a universe and recreate it iirc.
Genis Vell lost control of his Cosmic Awareness.
A Genis-Vell in control of his powers could had best stalemate Sentry during Thunderbolts.
A guy totally out of his mind will not face two Sentry, especially with the Death Seed.
@king_stranglehold_da_first: it's never explained what happened on panel but there are hints suggesting it was Entropy who did most of the work. Though yeah being considered as an asset by an abstract being of this stature is pretty big.
There is also the whole insulation that Eternity was only killed because he wanted to die.
After killing Eternity it was Entropy who becomes the new Eternity.
It's all a bit confusing but honestly apart from that part Genis has never been really shown as a threat to someone like Eternity.
He probably still has more raw powers than either of them though.
Can anyone explain how the team would win or even take down Insane Genis-Vell? He IGV has more raw power than either on team 2, being that he was able to bust a universe and recreate it iirc.
Genis Vell lost control of his Cosmic Awareness.
A Genis-Vell in control of his powers could had best stalemate Sentry during Thunderbolts.
A guy totally out of his mind will not face two Sentry, especially with the Death Seed.
But this isn't regular Genis-Vell that fought the Sentry, but the most powerful version of him. Genis-Vell totally out of his mind was able to destroy and recreate a universe. And also take on the likes of Eternity. We don't know what the Sentry and Void are like in their true potential, they can be insanely powerful, but they have not done anything so far like effecting a universe.
Can anyone explain how the team would win or even take down Insane Genis-Vell? He IGV has more raw power than either on team 2, being that he was able to bust a universe and recreate it iirc.
Genis Vell lost control of his Cosmic Awareness.
A Genis-Vell in control of his powers could had best stalemate Sentry during Thunderbolts.
A guy totally out of his mind will not face two Sentry, especially with the Death Seed.
But this isn't regular Genis-Vell that fought the Sentry, but the most powerful version of him. Genis-Vell totally out of his mind was able to destroy and recreate a universe. And also take on the likes of Eternity. We don't know what the Sentry and Void are like in their true potential, they can be insanely powerful, but they have not done anything so far like effecting a universe.
Stalemating Genis-Vell at his best before he knows that he can warp the reality and beating Owen Reece when he understood that he could gives him a shot.
I'm sorry to stay I never got around to reading the insane Genis-Vell arc. Could some advise the series and issues?
Thanks
@king_stranglehold_da_first: it's never explained what happened on panel but there are hints suggesting it was Entropy who did most of the work. Though yeah being considered as an asset by an abstract being of this stature is pretty big.
There is also the whole insulation that Eternity was only killed because he wanted to die.
After killing Eternity it was Entropy who becomes the new Eternity.
It's all a bit confusing but honestly apart from that part Genis has never been really shown as a threat to someone like Eternity.
He probably still has more raw powers than either of them though.
Here are the full scans.
Here he receates it after he destroyed it a second time iirc.
Here its kinda stated that he is capable of destroying a universe.
All I'm saying is that we can judge from these scans. Whether IGV is a threat to Eternity or not, Eternity has at least paid him attention and not Sentry or Void, showing that IGV power is much more greater. And unlike Sentry's or Void's it has been displayed on panel.
@king_stranglehold_da_first: you are mixing up 3 different stories here friend and they aren't even the same version of Genis.
The first set of scan is from where he had allied himself with Entropy and he is shooting in front of Entropy because as you can see on the scans itself saying "creating something is alien to me. Some sort of energy discharge would be appropriate."
That is what the Genis does. The next page after your second scan we see Entropy having turned into Eternity and recreated all that was destroyed.
These are from Captain Marvel volume 4: Mad God Saga.
The other scans are from New Thunderbolt and this was Genis as photon. In this incarnation he absorbs his own nega bands. Notice how Genis looks different in the 2 other set of scans you have ?
The first set of scan is how recalling the events of Entropy saga while the last set of scan is a vision of a possible future he was shown.
you are mixing up 3 different stories here friend and they aren't even the same version of Genis.
I'm actually aware of that...
The first set of scan is from where he had allied himself with Entropy and he is shooting in front of Entropy because as you can see on the scans itself saying "creating something is alien to me. Some sort of energy discharge would be appropriate."
That is what the Genis does. The next page after your second scan we see Entropy having turned into Eternity and recreated all that was destroyed.
But he was still able to cause a big bang, something of which neither on team two has shown capable of doing.
The other scans are from New Thunderbolt and this was Genis as photon. In this incarnation he absorbs his own nega bands. Notice how Genis looks different in the 2 other set of scans you have ?
The first set of scan is how recalling the events of Entropy saga while the last set of scan is a vision of a possible future he was shown.
That last scan with Photon was shown that even regular Genis has been hinted at being able to destroy a universe.
"The Photonic energy-the be all- and end all that is time and space" Again only hinting....
@king_stranglehold_da_first: well it depends on the interpretation doesn't it ? It's never said he created a big bang. All Entropy asked of Genis was to discharge some sort of energy. That's all we see. The next we see the universe created and it was created by Entropy and not Genis. As you can also see from the scan you posted it was Entropy who was asked to recreate the universe and not Genis. So it's hard to see that explosion as big bang.
The second is a possible future that has not happened yet. It's not something that happened. It's similar to sat Iron Man comparing what Sentry could have done with his psychic powers, remade the reality like House of M. Or Dr. Strange saying the truth could mean the end of the universe.
We might have to agree to disagree on this though.
I guess we will have to agree-disagree. But I'll just leave it at that Insane Genis Vell on panel has shown to have more raw power than both the Sentry and Void.
@king_stranglehold_da_first: no worries agree to disagree is the best part.
I see Genis as more powerful than either too, both of them together not so much.
Also as you might already have noticed by now your second and third set of scans are from photon era and not applicable to Insane Genis Vell from mad god saga. He was more powerful during Photon era, thanks to having absorbed the bands and further heightened cosmic awareness.
@king_stranglehold_da_first: no worries agree to disagree is the best part.
I see Genis as more powerful than either too, both of them together not so much.
Also as you might already have noticed by now your second and third set of scans are from photon era and not applicable to Insane Genis Vell from mad god saga. He was more powerful during Photon era, thanks to having absorbed the bands and further heightened cosmic awareness.
Thanks for pointing that out.
@king_stranglehold_da_first: no worries friend. And as always, it's a pleasure debating with you, if you can even call this debating =)
Bump. I wonder if the team could have any answer to Genis and his abilities.. I think not but someone change my mind.
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