In comics Besides Skyfathers who in character beats Thanos?

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@laflux: Logan piercing Thanos is a bad showing since Thanos had the IG at the time, altho this is totally irrelevant since Logan is an ant compared to Thanos...the point is whether Thanos gets stabbed or not it won't mean anything...Lord Marvel has also stabbed Thanos with the Cancerverse sword and Thanos was unphased by it...in which the donkey OP thinks otherwise...

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#52  Edited By rolldestroyer

@perezite:

for a guy who accuses others of not reading the arc you surely aren't any better, because it was explicitly stated at the beginning of the issue (which is from infinity gauntlet #4) that thanos limits his senses so that he may not perceive his opponents moves:

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not to mention that thanos doesn't seem hurt at all after wolverine pierced him:

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he retains his full power at the end of the issue:

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so all i see here is that wolverine was able to ambush thanos (which several characters did in the same issue including spider man) who limited himself specifically not to anticipate his opponent's moves, and he didn't seem harmed at all after that.

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@rolldestroyer: I would strongly advise not to waste your time with this donkey...lol

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@capall2 said:

@laflux: Logan piercing Thanos is a bad showing since Thanos had the IG at the time, altho this is totally irrelevant since Logan is an ant compared to Thanos...the point is whether Thanos gets stabbed or not it won't mean anything...Lord Marvel has also stabbed Thanos with the Cancerverse sword and Thanos was unphased by it...in which the donkey OP thinks otherwise...

As someone mentioned earlier, Thanos limited himself by only activating the Power Gem, which makes you immune to being Knocked Out, and increases your power the more you tap into it, but it doesn't mean you can't get hurt. So it isn't a low showing per say, especially considering the capabilities of Adamantuim, and the fact that Thanos wasn't harmed after being stabbed.

And as I said earlier, Thanos would diarrhoeastomp Wolverine (In fact I believe he would probably be able to atomize Logan's skeleton, given the power of his blasts and matter manipulation feats). Still there is no need to call the OP a Donkey.......

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Thanos is overrated. His strenght and speed are not on pair with few other powerhouses. A full powered Sentry would beat him.

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Nobody, surfer, genis vell and drax have the power to do so, but none of them will. Drax is his kryptonite but he can win maybe 1 fight out of 100. Thor maybe has the power to as well but he won't either without full use of the Odin force which would put him over sfl, nobady else under sfl can

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I know of 7 characters who can beat Thanos for sure.

Ultimate Silver Searcher

Ultimate Phoenix

Ghost Rider Zarathos

Ghost Rider Nobel Kale

Omega Spawn

Hell King Spawn

Man Thing

All of them stand a good chance or striaght up stomp Thanos.

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@chibio: Thanos slaps FIRE outta Sentry. Only Void/Sentry could give him problems.

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@chibio: Thanos slaps FIRE outta Sentry. Only Void/Sentry could give him problems.

No, he doesn't. He is physically too weak and too slow. Thanos is not as strong as your typical Superman level like character. I won't even start talking about the speed difference there, since he wasn't able to tag Captain Marvel at all, who is slower than Sentry. Strenght and speed are always factors and Thanos does not have them on his side. Even his durability is questionable, since he has been put to sleep by not impressive amounts of energy before (for example when he faced an aspect of the Beyonder who had amnesia or some weird stuff like that).

Thanos is only dangerous with prep time, since then he can gather artifacts which boost his power level, or figure out weaknesses of his enemies. Thanos energy projection isn't bad either, but that's not going to win him many battles against characters which act on a different level of strenght, speed and durability.

PS: Silver Surfer tends to job a lot.

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@chibio said:

@wavemotioncannon said:

@chibio: Thanos slaps FIRE outta Sentry. Only Void/Sentry could give him problems.

No, he doesn't. He is physically too weak and too slow. Thanos is not as strong as your typical Superman level like character. I won't even start talking about the speed difference there, since he wasn't able to tag Captain Marvel at all, who is slower than Sentry. Strenght and speed are always factors and Thanos does not have them on his side. Even his durability is questionable, since he has been put to sleep by not impressive amounts of energy before (for example when he faced an aspect of the Beyonder who had amnesia or some weird stuff like that).

Thanos is only dangerous with prep time, since then he can gather artifacts which boost his power level, or figure out weaknesses of his enemies. Thanos energy projection isn't bad either, but that's not going to win him many battles against characters which act on a different level of strenght, speed and durability.

PS: Silver Surfer tends to job a lot.

How can you in right mind actually say that? He's proven that's he stronger than powerhouses like the Thing, The Hulk, Silver Surfer and Thor

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#61  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

@chibio: he's slapped around Hulk and Drax, tanked SS's blasts point blank and you're using the Beyonder as an example? C'mon son.

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@dondave said:

How can you in right mind actually say that? He's proven that's he stronger than powerhouses like the Thing, The Hulk, Silver Surfer and Thor

I can say that, since I look at the fight from a logical perspective and not from the perspective of a comic book fight, where the writer is forced to come up with a BS solution so that the fans of the losing character wouldn't be upset. Thanos lacks in the speed department. He simply does and there is no denying. I personally also think that Superman like characters are stronger than him. Probably not with their base starting level of strenght, but they can use their speed to fly around and gather momentum, which adds much more impact to their attacks. Their regular strenght combined with an amount of speed Thanos can't react to turn into a lot more damage, which Thanos can't avoid, since he is physically simply too slow to do so. They would dish out so much more damage, before he would be able to do something. And when he would finally be able to do something and maybe attack someone like Sentry with his energy beams, what would happen? Thanos attacked Doctor Doom with an energy beam (which was even powered up by the Infinity Gauntlet) and Doctor Doom survived. Doctor Doom was attacked by Galactus and he survived. All thanks to his force fields. Sentry casually walked through these force fields mutliple (!) times, so even in that area Thanos would have major problems, since his energy projection is weaker. Not only Sentry would be able to defeat Thanos in a well written fight, but so would Superman, Silver Surfer and so on, and so on.

And yes, I know that Thanos blasted away Galactus with a power blast of his. No biggie.

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#64  Edited By Killemall

@grandsymbiote94: Thanks for the tag, although its a very hard question to answer. At least, as of Thanos Imperative, Thanos was indeed a low skyfather level and there are plenty of instances that support that assumption:

1. Thanos long fight with Odin, where Odin needed his spear to even hurt Thanos when the same Odin was one shotting Surfer and Drax the Destroyer. Odin himself acknowledging, Thanos taps into dark energy just as potent as his , and despite having fought for a whole issue Odin actually unable to put him down.

2. Thanos being able to match the energy output of Inbetweener, you gotta really be close to a skyfather level if you hope to match the energy output of a being slightly inferior to Galactus.

3. Jim Starlin who was retconning Thanos low end feat, went on to even retcon Thanos's appearance in Thor: Tears of a God, presumably because he felt it was a low showing. Thanos in the series only lost to Thor with Odin Force (for a dying Odin) + Belt Of Strength + Odin Shield. When the creator starts looking at feats like that you gotta be at the very least near skyfather level.

4. Thanos being able to rather handily overpower Lord Marvel, who just one shotted Magus, a being capable of teleporting entire planets and blowing them up with a gesture. Lord Marvel also totally dominate a team made out of post annihilation Surfer, Quasar and Nova Prime.

5. Thanos being able to fight and actually defeat Maker, when beings like Gladiator were scared to even confront her, speaks volume.

That being said currently his powers look meh. His showing in Avengers Assemble was pretty terrible, we know in Infinity Thanos would be attacking earth (something Thanos no longer desired in his previous continuity), and be facing a small assemblage of heroes (New Avengers + Mighty + Inhumans) whose top dogs are Blue Marvel, Black Bolt and Dr. Strange. Not only that Thanos is going to have an entire army backing him up, alongside 3 pretty powerful generals. I honestly dont see this story ending with anything sort of a massive jobbing from Thanos.

So while Thanos being a low skyfather was pretty justified before , his position now is going to be very questionable. I honestly fear we will be seeing Black Bolt being able to hold his own against Thanos during Infinity.

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#65  Edited By Chibio

@killemall What's your opinion on Thanos VS Sentry, considering showings which have to do with these two characters? Doctor Doom defending himself against Thanos (powered by IG) and Galactus attacks with his force fields, but not being able to defend himself against the Sentry. A Doombot matching Silver Surfers power, but benig ripped apart by the Sentry. Absorbing Man absorbing the power of Thor multiple times and once even Odin's magic, but not being able to handle Sentry's power output. Molecule Man probably still having far more power than Thanos and some above, yet losing to Sentry. And Sentry in weaker states being more powerful than planet busters. I still don't think that Thanos can defeat a Sentry who uses the full extend of his powers on top of his strenght and even more importantly his speed which adds more damage if combined with his strenght and durability.

And don't neccessarly judge it by the current versions, since that should be a stomp in Sentry's favor, because of Thanos' recent track record and due to Sentry probably being empowered by the seed of Death as one of the new horsemen. Just use the regular ones in their prime, without any weird upgrades like the IG or HOTU.

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Below Skyfather at base:

Classic Dr Strange

PC Dr Fate

Doctor Doom with prep

Reed Richards with prep

Silver Age: Mongul, Superman, Green Lantern, Superboy etc..

Wally West

Hunter Zolomon

Any version of Juggernaut more powerful than Classic

Ghost Rider

PC Mordru

PC Validus

The Sentry/Void

Kal Kent (below Skyfather?)

Etc

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No one but Superman Hyperion (He's the exact same thing as Superman same powers and he also gets his powers from sunlight) and Thor going all out which includes Godblast Winds of 1000 worlds Sundipping Speed Blitzing or Warrior's Madness might be able to do it but it's still a slim chance WWHulk or WBHulk once again might be able to do it but it's an even slimmer chance. If Silver Surfer amps himself to a certain point like absorbing the Sun's energy (which he can do) or making a Black Hole then maybe once again but he did get beaten to near death after 4 hits from Thanos.

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Scarlet Witch.

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#69  Edited By whacknasty

Has Forge ever came up with anything powerful enough to suggest that he could win 1/10 against Thanos? : / just a random thought lol.

How about High Evolutionary or SnowBird (channeling Neooqtoq)?

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Zoom (Hunter Zolomon)

Classic Strange

SuperMAN prime

Ghost Rider

Some other characters I can think of border on Sky Father levels so this becomes kinda tricky.

Also Blue Beetle by theory could harm Spectre so he might take it..... Don't know though. This is a tough subject!

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LMAO there's no way Hulk can take Thanos. This is just pure fanboyism.

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@jonez120 said:

Zoom (Hunter Zolomon)

Classic Strange

SuperMAN prime

Ghost Rider

Some other characters I can think of border on Sky Father levels so this becomes kinda tricky.

Also Blue Beetle by theory could harm Spectre so he might take it..... Don't know though. This is a tough subject!

Classic Strange is above Skyfather level imo.

Superman prime is probably still gonna get whooped after a long fight.

Everything else I agree with. Except for Blue Beetle since he was never shown to be able to hurt Spectre iirc.

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Obsidian

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Soul Gem Adam Warlock

Shaman Nate Grey

Despero

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Monarch

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Mephisto in his realm

Divine Spawn

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What was the context of Starlord beating him with that Celestial rock because he did it pretty easily.