@eisenfauste said:
@strider92: Zealots shielding have gone down by having a multitude of gauss rounds being fired at it.
However we do know that autocannons can and have taken them down:
The Goliath advanced, his armor fully powered, his twin thirty-millimeter autocannons blazing. The weapon blasted without pause until the nearest Zealot toppled backward, dead.
-Shadow of the Xel'Naga
This is an impressive feat of durability there is no doubt but doesn't seem to much beyond what power armor can tank:
Heavy autocannon fire sprayed the roof of the building, churning up its pebbled surface and shredding human flesh. The men who had been awaiting rescue in the flyers were the first to die, ripped apart in seconds by the heavy calibre, armour piercing shells. Vedden screamed as an autocannon shell clipped him, instantly shearing his leg from his body in midthigh. He collapsed, dragging the girl to the ground with him.
The Ultramarines scattered, firing at the ornithopters, but their bolter rounds were ineffective against the armoured undersides of the gunships.
Learchus sprinted forward, diving to the ground to gather the girl in his arms and rolling on top of her as the ornithopter's shells ripped towards her. He supported his weight on his elbows so as not to crush the girl and felt the powerful impacts hammer into his backplate. He offered a small prayer of thanks to his armour for standing firm against the traitorous fire.
-Nightbringer Page 161
Autocannons in 40k have the stopping power to go through light 40k vehicules and a Space Marine takes multiple shots from these to his back and still keeps moving. Here's a quote from Rogue Trader:
Auto-Cannon: Auto-Cannons are similar in concept to twentieth centaury Tank guns. They are automatic and use mass-reactive explosive ammunition.
-Rogue Trader Rulebook
Heres the page explaining what an autocannon is if you want more info:
Autocannon
@eisenfauste said:
"some zealots developed the ability to turn their body into pure energy for a few microseconds. This allows them to move at lightning-fast speeds and strike suddenly against an enemy that thinks they are out of range."
Some Zealots? So not all of them have this ability? Not to mention Marines have clocked Microsecond reaction times:
As the shell seared past, Rangar threw himself flat behind the low pile of rubble trying to make himself as small a target as possible. That had been close, too close. The shot had almost parted his hair. Only his lightning quick reflexes, and the microsecond's warning provided by his superhuman senses had got him out of the way. If he had ducked half a heartbeat later, his head would have been an exploding fountain of gore and bone.
- Space Wolf Omnibus Page 269
It seems unlikely they could speedblitz as the ability you explained only allows them to get into combat. Have they ever actually used it in close combat to fight an opponent?
@eisenfauste said:
They also have pre-cog abilities, their blades are stated as having the ability to tear through structures and vehicles alike, they will be able to cut through power armor, don't know about terminator plate, its possible that they can since a chainsword was able to get through in one of the books.
How good are these pre-cog abilities? Do you have any references to how effective it is in combat? and while I have no doubt their blades could cut through SM armor it wouldn't be a one-hit cut given their durability not to mention if the Zealot did cut through the Space Marine's armor it still has to contend with the SM's Laraman Organ. Basically Space Marines have a healing factor:
Red runes winked into life on his visor as his armor was torn open in half a dozen places. He felt searing pain and cursed as he yanked a plate-sized piece of sizzling shrapnel from his leg. Almost instantly, he could feel the Larraman cells clotting his blood and forming a protective layer of scar tissue over the wound. He had suffered much worse before and shut out the pain.
Ultramarines Omnibus Page 22
Some Space Marines have survived fatal injuries thanks to this. For example in the Iron Hands Novels a Marine had a total injury list of multiple hits from bolter fire, having his primary heart stabbed by a power sword, poisoned and finally stabbed in the lungs by yet another powersword. Most of these incidents just pissed him off. I'll post the feat once i've read the book I just heard about it in a 40k forum so I can't swear to its authenticty but I soon will. So not only does the Zealot have to cut through power armor it then also has to deal enough damage to bypass the Space Marine's healing factor too.
@eisenfauste said:
hmmmm as for the power weapons have they be shown to punch through shielding before. And bolt rounds would be stopped by the shielding though I don't think it would take too many bolt rounds to get through their shields.
Fair enough.
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