" The only thing Illyria has going is time manipulation and honestly Darkseid should turn her into ash long before any time !@#$ery happens. "
Darkseid has time manipulation powers too. He once revived Desaad by using his omega effect to reverse time around Desaad and he's teleported people across time and space with it as well.
" The only thing Illyria has going is time manipulation and honestly Darkseid should turn her into ash long before any time !@#$ery happens. "
Darkseid has time manipulation powers too. He once revived Desaad by using his omega effect to reverse time around Desaad and he's teleported people across time and space with it as well. "
If I recall, she had a significant control over time. But it's been a while since I've seen the episodes where she displays said power or read the comic where she apparently regains it.
"What can Illyria do? I know absolutely nothing about her which is why I'm asking. "
Illryria is an ancient pure blood demon from the show angel. she has vast super strenght ( a little weaker the shehulk) she time manipulation, shape shifting , talk to plants, expert in martial arts ( capable of taking on and killing spike, angel and his crew easily. invunernablity( not on the level of superman type characters).
im a huge fanboy of her but trust me when i say she is no match for darksied. and im kind of angry the person who made this stupid thread
@HolySerpent: Oh take a chill pill; just because you say she's no match for Darkseid doesn't mean she isn't. I saw a thread called Illyria Vs Superman and she seemed to be winning that so I thought if she can defeat Superman it should be an interesting battle with her and Darkseid.
" @HolySerpent: Oh take a chill pill; just because you say she's no match for Darkseid doesn't mean she isn't. I saw a thread called Illyria Vs Superman and she seemed to be winning that so I thought if she can defeat Superman it should be an interesting battle with her and Darkseid. "
No....just no....she can't beat Superman
Darkseid easily smacks around Superman, Darkseid has beaten a Sundipped Superman that was been in The Sun for 1 hour, Darkseid has hurt The Spectre
Big blue shifting time so angel was at his weakest..ie the time he was turned into a puppet in season 3....and then....when he was a baby sitting in his crib....oh and thats depowered illyria
illyrias full form has the ability to "end" time and with it all infinite universes in the buffyverse.....so yeah
Darksied, Illyrias true form was stopped by a telepathic assault of Freds memory's and the senior partners army killed her. Granted it wouldn't have happened without freds memories.
And in her true form Illyria did almost destroy time itself.
" Big blue shifting time so angel was at his weakest..ie the time he was turned into a puppet in season 3....and then....when he was a baby sitting in his crib....oh and thats depowered illyria illyrias full form has the ability to "end" time and with it all infinite universes in the buffyverse.....so yeah "
can't believe im saying this but he's right. Not sure who would win in this fight but would be an epic fight though
@nightwing91: Do you think Darkseid would win or Illyria. Sorry, I'm confused because you put Darkseid at the start of your post and then you say how powerful Illyria is.
@pcbh168: Honestly I'm not sure now, Darksied shouldn't be able to actually hit full powered Illyira as it required Angel having the gem on her sarcophagus, and the army having Illyia being flooded with memories of Fred.
Full power I say Illlyria, cause of her incredidibly advanced time manipulation.
@pcbh168: Only because of the time manipulation to slow down time, and deage characters back to when their weakest, she only showed that ability when she had no control of her powers. But it stands to reason at full power she could easily do this.
Illyria in human form (in Fred's body) would lose miserably, and it would be a laughable fight. Illyria in her true form as a pure blooded demon that towers over skyscrapers, would disembowel Darkseid and use his innards as decorations.
" @Picard: So you're saying Ares or Baldur can beat Mephisto? Blackheart? Sattanish? Zarathos? Massive facepalm. "
I said this in context of mythology, no comicbooks. Logically , demon is less than a god. In Slayerverse this statement is true: Glory isn't a demon.. she's a god etc.
Glory was a self-proclaimed god, and was known as a god just because people, in her own dimension, worshipped her. For all we know, she's just a really powerful demon with a big ego. The same applies to Darkseid. A "god" is just something he's called.
@Skaddix: y isnt darkseid a real god? his true form could hold multiple planets in his hand at base size than he could change his size to much greater levels, new gods go threw a boom tube which regulates there size otherwise they wouldnt have much contact with the normal dcu like earth and such because theyd destroy things like that accidently, darkseid is physically atleast twice as strong as superman, has the omega effect which can shoot beams to cause a vast amount of different effects, he can control space and time with the omega effect, alter his physical size, amp his flight speed, matter manipulation, teleportation, open and control boom tubes, create avatars of himself, and theres 100s of more abilities he can use it for so unless you mean hes not a real god in the sense hes not omnipotent i can get that but than 99% of gods in comics aernt real gods.
" Glory was a self-proclaimed god, and was known as a god just because people, in her own dimension, worshipped her. For all we know, she's just a really powerful demon with a big ego. The same applies to Darkseid. A "god" is just something he's called. "
Eh, not exactly. Darkseid and gods of DC are acknowledged as actual gods, by virtue of their connection to the Source. It's not just a matter of opinion there, it is quite factual.
Darkseid wins... What Illyria did to Angel would never work... Even if she went back in time to when Darkeid was helpless, he could and would just follow her there, and kill her. Or he could do the same thing... He could create an exact duplicate of IIIyria only completely under his control, and have her fight herself.
" Glory was a self-proclaimed god, and was known as a god just because people, in her own dimension, worshipped her. For all we know, she's just a really powerful demon with a big ego. The same applies to Darkseid. A "god" is just something he's called. "
Well, no Watchers' Council classified Glory, as a god. Watchers make this distingsion: god> demon. As for Illyria she is fascinating character, but she is not even most powerful character in Slayerverse - I'm pretty sure that Evil Willow, Glory, Jasmine or even Marcus Hamilton surpass her in many ways. I mean, every time she fought Angel and his team, she reatrets. What she can do to Darkside?
"Darksied, Illyrias true form was stopped by a telepathic assault of Freds memory's and the senior partners army killed her. Granted it wouldn't have happened without freds memories. And in her true form Illyria did almost destroy time itself. "
Darkseid wins then,one hit with the omega sanction and she'll automatically be seeing this fred guy. not to mention darkseids true form was also destroying all time and reality ,and if she does remove darkseid from the timeline ,then she still dies or he comes back.
"Darksied, Illyrias true form was stopped by a telepathic assault of Freds memory's and the senior partners army killed her. Granted it wouldn't have happened without freds memories. And in her true form Illyria did almost destroy time itself. "
Darkseid wins then,one hit with the omega sanction and she'll automatically be seeing this fred guy. not to mention darkseids true form was also destroying all time and reality ,and if she does remove darkseid from the timeline ,then she still dies or he comes back. "
I think Post-Crisis Darkseid was once removed from the timeline and it was causing all of time and space to fall apart. It was in some Legion issue where Darkseid's older self in the future brought his younger self from when he first got his power and became Darkseid to the future and they said removing one as powerful as him from the timeline would cause all of time and space to collapse.
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