@Ferro Vida said:
@WillPayton said:
@Ferro Vida said:
@WillPayton said:
A lot of people didnt read the rules. =)
Having the force is a single power that manifests in a variety of ways.
The force is the source of the powers, of which there are many. It's similar to a GL ring being the source of he GLs powers (flight, constructs, shield, etc), but the GL ring isnt in itself a power.
A Green Lantern ring might not be a "power" in the sense that the ring is an internal thing, but it is a power in the sense that it can only be wielded by a select few people. Iron Man's armour could be viewed in the same way, as could Doctor Strange's magic abilities. Both can be used for numerous end results that would not be capable without said feature. The same definition works for the Green Lantern ring, whose main feature is the manipulation and production of energy. And all of the force powers are, at root, just tapping into the world's "life force" for various purposes.
A "power" is a specific effect. If that effect allows you to do different tasks (for lack of a better word), then that's fine. An example of a power that allows different tasks is TK which might allow you to move objects, but also to fly, or to make things explode. However a GL ring can do things like create solid constructs, fly, increase speed and reflexes, scan and analyze objects or people, etc, etc. Those are all different effects, and hence different powers. It's the same with magic or "the force", they are the source of the individual powers, but they are not a single "power" in and of themselves.
What you're saying amounts to saying that "magic" is a power, and therefore anyone who has the power of "magic" can do pretty much anything they want that's magic related. See the problem there? Normally, things like casting spells, magically enhanced strength, or durability, or magically derived flight, or protection from magical attacks, or creating illusions, or necromancy, or other things like that are considered to be different powers. A magic user might be able to do some, but not others. They dont just have the "power of magic" and hence they can do whatever. And while obviously some high-end magic users can do pretty much any of those things, it's because they have all those different powers due to their mastery of the source of those powers, namely magic.
Lastly, using Iron Man's armor doesnt help your case. The armor, like the GL ring, is the source of the powers, but it is not a power by itself. Iron Man's armor can fly, but it can also shoot energy blasts, or it can tap into electronic equipment. Tell me how those two things are part of one power? They're not, they're separate, distinct powers.
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