#1 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

morals off

they have some knowledge of each other but not a lot

start 50 yards away

#2 Posted by New_World_Order (13187 posts) - - Show Bio

King Hyperion.

#3 Edited by dondave (37377 posts) - - Show Bio

King Hyperion ftw

#4 Posted by King Saturn (224168 posts) - - Show Bio

I will take Icon just because we don't have enough black comic book characters to begin with.

#5 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12171 posts) - - Show Bio

King Hyperion has better feats.....

#6 Posted by Ratatat (697 posts) - - Show Bio

icon is more versatile and smarter he wins

#7 Edited by NeonGameWave (7781 posts) - - Show Bio

King Hyperion.

#8 Posted by terry2012 (5211 posts) - - Show Bio

Icon.

#9 Edited by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Posted by HeraldofGanthet (3467 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjames447: Question: Is Icon using his basic powerset or Cooperative Tech in this battle?

#11 Edited by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@heraldofganthet: what kind of question is that? of course that's his powers...

#12 Posted by HeraldofGanthet (3467 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjames447: Forgive me, what I meant to ask was will he be using Kinetic Dampeners, power siphons, etc.., in addition to his base power set. He could win this without those tools in a long hard fight, but with them he could really ruin KH's day.

#13 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjames447: Forgive me, what I meant to ask was will he be using Kinetic Dampeners, power siphons, etc.., in addition to his base power set. He could win this without those tools in a long hard fight, but with them he could really ruin KH's day.

uhmmm he doesn't have those your thinking of roquet or hardware icon is a black superman not a black ironman...

#14 Posted by New_World_Order (13187 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath: @dondave: @ancient_0f_days: gotta give reasons people

Well to be honest. King Hyperion has had more showing's than Icon, and based off what I've seen of the two. King Hyperion should be superior. Although Icon has held his own with Superman in the past, I don't think that's enough to beat Hyperion. The guy has killed many earth heroes from different universes such as Thor, Hulk, Magneto, ect. 616 may be superior to their counterparts, but still that has to mean something. Not to forget I remember Icon punching Superman, and hurting his own hand in doing so. good fight, but King Hyperion's healing factor, and ruthlessness that would give even Black Adam & Doomsday pause is too much for Icon.

#15 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath: i see what your saying but if you remember blue marvel beat king hyperion when he was weakened and icon and blue marvel are really similar i mean look at the feat where he punched superman it looks real close to the time blue marvel punched sentry but im just the OP im here to see other people discuss...

#16 Posted by New_World_Order (13187 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath: i see what your saying but if you remember blue marvel beat king hyperion when he was weakened and icon and blue marvel are really similar i mean look at the feat where he punched superman it looks real close to the time blue marvel punched sentry but im just the OP im here to see other people discuss...

Fair enough.

#17 Posted by dondave (37377 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjames447:

It was a bloodlusted Blue Marvel, who the Watcher has stated has the strength to split the Moon in two; it's could be seen as a feat for King Hyperion

#18 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: who says icon can't split a moon in half when he rocked superman supes himself said that was the hardest he has ever been hit at and that is coming from a guy who has fought doomsday and black adam...

#19 Posted by dondave (37377 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjames447: And hurt his hand while doing so, he can't continue to dish out punches like that

#20 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: you're ignoring the fact that he said that was the hardest he has been hit also that was without enhancing his punch imagine that punch at full force with 3 times the amount of power behind it so yea icon can dish out those same punches as many times as he wants...

#21 Posted by dondave (37377 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjames447: There's no mistaking it was a powerful punch; however he hurt he hand while doing it, he won't be able to do it for long

#22 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: not every punch he throws hurts his hands aren't made of glass...

#23 Posted by dondave (37377 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjames447: I didn't say every punch, but a punch with that level of power behind it hurts him

#24 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: yea but he threw a punch that was meant to stall superman not fight him thats why flew through a space station and right after they sit down and talk to each other icon has years of fighting experience since the 1800's so hes not going to be a idiot and break his hand like he did before...

#25 Edited by Inconvenient_Truth (2362 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I read Icon is up there with Flash in speed. Might have been on Icons profile. Not sure where I saw that

#26 Posted by JediXMan (30592 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I read Icon is up there with Flash in speed. Might have been on Icons profile. Not sure where I saw that

It's most certainly not true, whatever the source.

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#27 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10486 posts) - - Show Bio

Icon uses a positron upper cut to KO Hyperion. And who are all these people

Talking about Icons lack of showings read his comic.

#28 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (5465 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by Cooldes (4097 posts) - - Show Bio

@homicidalmaniac

#30 Posted by Neo_Prime666 (80 posts) - - Show Bio

Man you guys hating on Icon, basically he's Pre-Flashpoint Superman with Light based powers, King Hyperion losing this one.

#31 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

King Hyperion. In stomp. Punching Superman isn't prove of anything. And Superman also would lose with KH.

#32 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10486 posts) - - Show Bio

King Hyperion. In stomp. Punching Superman isn't prove of anything. And Superman also would lose with KH.

I'm gonna need proof of this. I mean BM and Icon have the same power set. Both control anti-matter. (Positrons) Except that Icon is stronger than BM.

Man you guys hating on Icon, basically he's Pre-Flashpoint Superman with Light based powers, King Hyperion losing this one.

Actually they're anti-matter based iirc.

#33 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

King Hyperion. In stomp. Punching Superman isn't prove of anything. And Superman also would lose with KH.

I'm gonna need proof of this. I mean BM and Icon have the same power set. Both control anti-matter. (Positrons) Except that Icon is stronger than BM.

Blue Marvel is stronger than Icon. Blue Marvel is moon buster according to Watcher, which is almost as good as narrtor's words. Superman KOd himself to bust a moon by strike in full speed, so Blue Marvel is stronger than Superman. And Icon doesn't have feats on that level anyway.

King Hyperion was beating Hyperion-712 (who is planet level, not only moon one) and another Hyperion, took shot from Mimic who was moving at half of speed of light (while his body was changed into similar to Colossus). KH was barely stunned by that attack.

Not to mention that any damage will be healed instantly, since he recovered in seconds, after his neck was broken.

#34 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10486 posts) - - Show Bio

@nelomaxwell said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

King Hyperion. In stomp. Punching Superman isn't prove of anything. And Superman also would lose with KH.

I'm gonna need proof of this. I mean BM and Icon have the same power set. Both control anti-matter. (Positrons) Except that Icon is stronger than BM.

Blue Marvel is stronger than Icon. Blue Marvel is moon buster according to Watcher, which is almost as good as narrtor's words. Superman KOd himself to bust a moon by strike in full speed, so Blue Marvel is stronger than Superman. And Icon doesn't have feats on that level anyway.

King Hyperion was beating Hyperion-712 (who is planet level, not only moon one) and another Hyperion, took shot from Mimic who was moving at half of speed of light (while his body was changed into similar to Colossus). KH was barely stunned by that attack.

Not to mention that any damage will be healed instantly, since he recovered in seconds, after his neck was broken.

I know the narrator. We're friends on Face book and that's not what he told me.

#35 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
#36 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10486 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: He intend for BM to be stronger than the original incarnation of Icon who was supposed to only be as strong as the 1940's supes. But McDufffie upgraded Icon after sometime which brought him to supes level; He said BM can go toe to toe with any heavy hitter and possibly win. But he could also possibly lose.

#37 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: He intend for BM to be stronger than the original incarnation of Icon who was supposed to only be as strong as the 1940's supes. But McDufffie upgraded Icon after sometime which brought him to supes level; He said BM can go toe to toe with any heavy hitter and possibly win. But he could also possibly lose.

Ok, I thought he said something about moon feat. Anyway - Icon didn't show anything on that level, even if writer wanted to put him in the same level. Superman is moon-buster, as is BM, but BM don't have to KO himself to do this.

#39 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10486 posts) - - Show Bio

@nelomaxwell said:

@czarny_samael666: He intend for BM to be stronger than the original incarnation of Icon who was supposed to only be as strong as the 1940's supes. But McDufffie upgraded Icon after sometime which brought him to supes level; He said BM can go toe to toe with any heavy hitter and possibly win. But he could also possibly lose.

Ok, I thought he said something about moon feat. Anyway - Icon didn't show anything on that level, even if writer wanted to put him in the same level. Superman is moon-buster, as is BM, but BM don't have to KO himself to do this.

Didn't ask him about that, but I can if you want.

#40 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@czarny_samael666: He intend for BM to be stronger than the original incarnation of Icon who was supposed to only be as strong as the 1940's supes. But McDufffie upgraded Icon after sometime which brought him to supes level; He said BM can go toe to toe with any heavy hitter and possibly win. But he could also possibly lose.

Ok, I thought he said something about moon feat. Anyway - Icon didn't show anything on that level, even if writer wanted to put him in the same level. Superman is moon-buster, as is BM, but BM don't have to KO himself to do this.

Didn't ask him about that, but I can if you want.

Hmmm... You know? It is pretty good idea. Ask him if he used Watcher to show his own will.

#41 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10486 posts) - - Show Bio

@nelomaxwell said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@czarny_samael666: He intend for BM to be stronger than the original incarnation of Icon who was supposed to only be as strong as the 1940's supes. But McDufffie upgraded Icon after sometime which brought him to supes level; He said BM can go toe to toe with any heavy hitter and possibly win. But he could also possibly lose.

Ok, I thought he said something about moon feat. Anyway - Icon didn't show anything on that level, even if writer wanted to put him in the same level. Superman is moon-buster, as is BM, but BM don't have to KO himself to do this.

Didn't ask him about that, but I can if you want.

Hmmm... You know? It is pretty good idea. Ask him if he used Watcher to show his own will.

NP.

#42 Posted by jojjimbo (2472 posts) - - Show Bio

King Hyperion.