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Thor tank a energy blast from an freaking Celestial and fought on a star.Those alone prove that Thor can tank anything that Ichigo can throw at him.

That sound like PIS to me if a guy can bleed and yet you guys want to use him tanking Celestials from over 30 years ago??? Did you know Black Panther can solo Silver Surfer?

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#102  Edited By homicidalmaniac

@boschepg: Classic Thor and Current Thor are the same character,there was no reboot/or retcon in Marvel.Current Thor fight against Gorr had finish their fight in a star.That is more current than Siege.

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@boschepg: Classic Thor and Current Thor are the same character,there was no reboot/or retcon in Marvel.Current Thor fight against Gorr had finish their fight in a star.That is current than Siege.

True. Sounds more like inconsistent writing. Your Thor feats happen in Thor. His weakness are more in Avengers

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@boschepg said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@boschepg: Classic Thor and Current Thor are the same character,there was no reboot/or retcon in Marvel.Current Thor fight against Gorr had finish their fight in a star.That is current than Siege.

True. Sounds more like inconsistent writing. Your Thor feats happen in Thor. His weakness are more in Avengers

That sound like PIS to me if a guy can bleed and yet you guys want to use him tanking Celestials from over 30 years ago??? Did you know Black Panther can solo Silver Surfer?

Those are Thor's is a low showing that happen with Osborn and his Avengers and mid/high feats are the way to go in debates.

PS.SS allow BP to out him in a armlock

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#105  Edited By StrictlyAnime

Actually why is Ichigo going up against planet busters anyway? His strongest form was like, City Level.

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@boschepg said:

@frogdog:

This is end of Siege before the heroes came to the rescue. Non pictured are planet busters. Iron Patriot, UFoes, Quicksand, and Moonstone. This was also in the last five years. Want to rephrase your logic of how mighty Thor is? Cuz it was also within the last 10 years. Thor bleeds. He dies. So I bow to the Prince of Uganda

Thor had just been hit by the Sentry. Then Osborn and his team blasted him with a seemingly nuke-sized explosion. And he still got up after it. And then a couple of minutes later he was back up and fighting a Voided Sentry.

If you want to use even more recent feats, Thor survived the God Bomb on his own. It was a bomb that was killing all the Gods throughout Space and Time. Even Odin could do nothing against it and had to pray to Thor to stop it. And just before that he fought Gorr in a star (although he did lose, but that was because of Gorr's power, not the star). He also recently took a beating from Horseman of Death Sentry in which he was hit with a world-shaking punch.

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#107  Edited By Jmarshmallow

Batman. Has. Prep.

GG NO RE.

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Actually why is Ichigo going up against planet busters anyway? His strongest form was like, City Level.

really? his second strongest form caught a multi-city attack with his bare hands. Not that he's qualified to go against planet busters, just saiyan..

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Lol, how could Thor exactly touch Ichigo? Let alone beating him.

And what's suppose that his magical zanpakto wouldn't cut him?

At round 5 he arguable stops, but no way at 4.

thor is a planet buster,he can take much more than ichigo can dish out and can one shotte ichigo,he only has better combat speed than thor but that won't be enough,wonder woman is also much more powerful than ichigo and can one shotte him as well,and she has better combat speed than ichigo.

I asked two question, if you can't answer that, can't refute the consequence.

ichigo can't kill thor,thor can take much more than what ichigo can dish out and thor has the power to one shotte him.

Yes, I read that, but there is no proof behind your words.

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Thor tank a energy blast from an freaking Celestial and fought on a star.Those alone prove that Thor can tank anything that Ichigo can throw at him.

So that mean, for example, Hulk punches(that harm Thor) are as strong as a Celestial blast on a star, or stronger?

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@boschepg: First don't be hypocrite about me using old scans, when you made references to Mongoose and Sandstorm. Second if actually read siege, then you would know that the sentry weaken Thor.

Third lets talk about events that more relevant than Siege

Chaos War Thor vs Glory(2010)

A vs X Thor vs The Phoenix (2012)

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@gokuwarrior said:

@mypasswordis1234 said:

@gokuwarrior said:

@mypasswordis1234 said:

Lol, how could Thor exactly touch Ichigo? Let alone beating him.

And what's suppose that his magical zanpakto wouldn't cut him?

At round 5 he arguable stops, but no way at 4.

thor is a planet buster,he can take much more than ichigo can dish out and can one shotte ichigo,he only has better combat speed than thor but that won't be enough,wonder woman is also much more powerful than ichigo and can one shotte him as well,and she has better combat speed than ichigo.

I asked two question, if you can't answer that, can't refute the consequence.

ichigo can't kill thor,thor can take much more than what ichigo can dish out and thor has the power to one shotte him.

Yes, I read that, but there is no proof behind your words.

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@boschepg:

Thor tank a energy blast from an freaking Celestial and fought on a star.Those alone prove that Thor can tank anything that Ichigo can throw at him.

So that mean, for example, Hulk punches(that harm Thor) are as strong as a Celestial blast on a star, or stronger?

there is proof,all the countless feats from thor withstanding things that ichigo can't do all.

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#114  Edited By Superbot400

@boschepg said:

@frogdog:

This is end of Siege before the heroes came to the rescue. Non pictured are planet busters. Iron Patriot, UFoes, Quicksand, and Moonstone.

That's a Iron Man Level+Ms.Marvel+ U-foe(who phyiscally could take on Hulk)+Quicksand who on take Thor that manged to do it. It's only because of ambush.

Prior to that Siege had X-ray and Vector alone were able blow up Solider field in chicago. Which only happen because Volstagg discharged it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_Field

I believe Iron Pariot in an Iron Man issue has blow up blow up a buttle in a desert. Vector and X-ray could also harm Thor/Huk prior to their showings in Siege.

Even with ALL of that, they needed Sentry to even be able to defeat Thor.

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@frogdog said:

Speed hardly means jack s*** if you have no strength feats

@boschepg said:

Ichigo fight speed is the same as his travel speed.

You cant say the same for Thor

Thor still bleeds.He isnt immortal. Thor cant keep up with Ichigo in battle.

This is faulty logic. Yes Thor bleeds and isn't immortal but ichigo isn't remotely close to being a threat that would cause Thor any problems.

If Thor cant touch Ichigo then the amount of slices Ichigo can place on Thor can be quite severe. To think Thor cant be touched is faulty cuz he has had problems with Mongoose, Sandstorm, and other people that are not on planetary level. Kenpachi is probably on higher durability level then Thor

But Thor can touch Ichigo if he wanted to. His hammer moves faster than light, and it plenty of combat showings to suggest if Thor throws the hammer at you, he could tag Itchigo. You can't use the LOL travel speed vs combat speed argument aganist Thor because it's his hammer grants MFTL speeds.

Quicksand has intangibility edge over Thor, and even then the issue implied that Thor was holding back on Quicksand. She never had the edge over Thor via rawpower, and Thor could withstand a lot of punishment from Thor.

Kenpachi isn't more durable than Thor those, none of his feats would match Thor. You would have to lowball the living hell out of Thor for that to be possible. Even if you do probably focusing especially on at least 3 random showings while ignoring stuff like Thor fighting Gorr, Phoniex force, Glory, Void, Scarlet Witch+Havok, and other current showings that blow away whatever Defalco had.

Take for example how recently Thor was no fatal injuries from being slammed MFTL by Sentry, and then being dump on a green lava pit which straghit out of crust of the planet. Even after all of that Thor was still fighting Sentry later in issue, Sentry had to defeat Thor by kayoing with a eyeblast.

You could argue that Ichigo could hurt Thor due to Thor resistance to swords. Thor still has a higher level durability than most of bleach..

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But Thor can touch Ichigo if he wanted to. His hammer moves faster than light, and it plenty of combat showings to suggest if Thor throws the hammer at you, he could tag Itchigo. You can't use the LOL travel speed vs combat speed argument aganist Thor because it's his hammer grants MFTL speeds.

I need to see scans (more then one) of his hammer being thrown in combat scenarios where it achieves FTL speed, cuz it isnt cuz his hammer doesnt change form. If so, there are alot of people that have caught Mjolnir meaning they must have FTL reactions, which isnt the case.

Another poster said Thor can tank Celestial blast. Which is ludicrous regardless of the scan. And another poster said then that would mean Hulk, who can smash Thor, hits as hard as a Celestial. You guys have to think of the implications you guys are putting up. Dont get me wrong, I recognize Thor is powerful but, things are getting out of hand with some of his implied feats

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#116  Edited By Superbot400

@boschepg said:

@superbot400 said:

But Thor can touch Ichigo if he wanted to. His hammer moves faster than light, and it plenty of combat showings to suggest if Thor throws the hammer at you, he could tag Itchigo. You can't use the LOL travel speed vs combat speed argument aganist Thor because it's his hammer grants MFTL speeds.

I need to see scans (more then one) of his hammer being thrown in combat scenarios where it achieves FTL speed, cuz it isnt cuz his hammer doesnt change form. If so, there are alot of people that have caught Mjolnir meaning they must have FTL reactions, which isnt the case.

Another poster said Thor can tank Celestial blast. Which is ludicrous regardless of the scan. And another poster said then that would mean Hulk, who can smash Thor, hits as hard as a Celestial. You guys have to think of the implications you guys are putting up. Dont get me wrong, I recognize Thor is powerful but, things are getting out of hand with some of his implied feats

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I'm not saying that Thor always throws his hammer at MFTL speed(but the hammer does grants him MFTL travel speed any story we see of Thor those), but he can at average throw his hammer beyond Obrtial velocity and some percentage of the lightspeed given that we have seen encircle the Sun in Marvel Now's Infinity in a short peroid of time. If people have caught the hammer, it doesn't take away the speed clock or shown before. That's just like saying slower people have tagged Wally, therefore pre-52 Flash isn't MTFL before .

Heck we seen Beta Ray Hammer encircle Planet/planetoid

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Thor in first Thunder we see toss his hammer to space in short period of time. And if you bring up Mongoose, you probably didn't post the scan of Thor throwing his hammer, and catching Mongoose.

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Also we know that Thor's hammer by itself can outspeed Surfer on his board without hyperspace. Surfer moves at percentage of the lightspeed/lightspeed at lowest we can possibly peg him to be.

People who downplay Thor's speed focus on his own speed, but always forget that Thor's hammer is another viable weapon against speedster. He also has superhuman sight, perception there is so nothing to say that Thor can't see people move very fast. Mjolnir has plenty of showings that show it can home on to people, and hit in mutiple angles if needed. Even if Mjolnir couldn't tag Ichigo, Thor still has AOE and the ability to fuck up the entire landscape. Shouldn't be impossible Thor to tag Ichigo, it's more like Thor might not have defensive Ichigo speedbltizes.

Like I said before Thor has durability feats better than anybody in bleach when it comes to resistance to heat/cold/energy/blunt force. Ichigo can harm Thor because Thor isn't known to have sharp resistance to sharp object rather than blunt force. When it comes to blunt force durability, nobody in Bleach compares to Thor. They can beat Thor due to sharp edge on their sword/hax/speed, but their magnitude of their attacks is nothing special to Thor.

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@superbot400: I agree with Thor. Hes good. Your FTL with the Hammer is still irrelevant on a level. All scans of Mjolnir and moving faster than Silver Surfer are all in space. You have to achieve escape velocity in a vacuum or be pulled into the said planets gravity. On Earth, he doesnt throw it that fast.

But I get what you are saying

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#118  Edited By Ratava

the scan where Thor throws the hammer "to the farthest reaches of the galaxy", iirc in another thread someone posted the following scans and Odin interruptet the hammer and send it back, so that is not a usable feat.