Team 1 Is at full power, morals off. Team 2 has 4 hours prep and are at full power.
Iceman,Magneto,Storm,Cable,Vulcan vs Superman,Green Lantern,Flash
"flash solos everyone except iceman who can come back but team 2 destroys the earth or team 2 uses the prep to just send iceman to the phantom zone "
" @termiteone4ever said:lol" TEam Two violates them "Nice way of putting it. "
cant vulcan manipulate and shut off supes and other's energy? Not a Vulcan expert but he should be able to do some damage.
People you're kidding right ?Do you really know who Vulcan is ?He can solo team 2+ team 1 if he wanted to.
Wiki :
Vulcan is a mutant with the ability to psionically manipulate vast amounts of energy. In addition to traditional energies of the electromagnetic spectrum Vulcan has displayed control over exotic energies such as Cyclops' optic blasts and magical energy.
He has used his powers to produce light, heat, force, and electricity, as well as warp or disable large amounts, and different types, of existing energy sources, tap into and suppress mutant energies, survive in the vacuum of space, and fly. Outside a planetary atmosphere his flight speed can even reach near the speed of light. He can track energy signatures over vast interstellar distances, as demonstrated when he located a trio of starships. He is able to go without food for long periods by directly absorbing energy, and can generate protective forcefields for interstellar travel. He can manipulate electricity within a person's brain and use the powers of others by manipulating their own energy sources, although he needs to be in their presence to achieve this. The exact limits of his power replication abilities are unknown, but he was capable of utilising Marvel Girl's telepathy without her consent. Vulcan also possesses the capability of solidifying energy into solid shapes, in effect simulating telekinesis. When he uses his powers, his eyes glow. He has been confirmed as an Omega level mutant in Uncanny X-Men #483, his powers elevated to said level thanks to absorbing a massive amount of mutant energies from M-Day, as stated in Uncanny X-Men #477.
Vulcan is able to use his psionic abilities for a variety of uses. Despite little (if any) formal training in the use of his mental powers, Vulcan has demonstrated feats such as completely resisting mental manipulation/assault by far more experienced telepathic beings, and he was also able to restore former Shiar emperor D'Ken from a catatonic state, something the most powerful/skilled telepaths of the entire Shiar empire had previously been unable to accomplish. Vulcan does NOT possess any innate telepathic abilities, but can manipulate the telepathic energies of others (which enables him to shield his mind from outside attacks). In the instance with D'Ken, he used his energy powers to reactivate the electrical connections in the neurons of D'ken's brain that had been damaged by the M'Krann Crystal.
Vulcan is capable of absorbing vast amounts of virtually any form of energy. In an engagement, Vulcan forced Adam Warlock to flee after robbing him of most of his power within seconds. Vulcan's absorption abilities, though vast, have limits. He was unable to absorb or deflect a powerful blast from his brother Havok (although at the time Havok was powered beyond his normal levels), leaving Vulcan wounded and at the mercy of his brother. Though high order energy projection rapidly depletes his reserves, as demonstrated in his fight against Shi'ar warships and later the Imperial Guard, Vulcan's energy manipulation abilities are not based on said energy reserves. He can continue to manipulate external sources of energy even when they are depleted, though he is noticeably weaker when this occurs. Nevertheless, he has been shown to be easily capable of defeating multiple advanced Shi'ar starships when in such a state.
After being swallowed by the soil of Krakoa, he absorbed the powers of his teammates Sway, Darwin, Petra, and giving him their powers of time manipulation, physical adaptation, and earth manipulation respectively. He has not displayed these abilities after his re-appearance.
All three Summers brothers have similar powers, as they are each able to absorb certain kinds of celestial energies and re-channel that energy from their bodies. While his brothers Alex and Scott are known to be immune to each others powers, they are apparently not immune to Vulcan's. This can be attributed to Vulcan's powers encompassing virtually all forms of energy, as opposed to the relatively limited capabilities of his brothers.
When not in possession of Darwin's powers, Vulcan's body is as vulnerable as any normal human as far as durability is concerned. Blows from Black Bolt were shown to be capable of drawing blood and chipping teeth, and even when battling the X-Men, Vulcan was shown to be susceptible to physical blows. However, Vulcan can use his energy abilities to create force fields or to rebuild damaged/destroyed portions of his body, the total extent of which is unknown, as Vulcan still required a prosthetic eye after a strike from Gladiatorcable could beat team 2 while they fight his friends. at full power cable is a truely powerful telepath and telek user he could shut down their brain or even trap them inside his own mind.
Vulcan imo could take GL....Cable/ Storm/ Iceman can take Superman. Cable would have to turn his brain off or molecular remove Superman's body parts via TK. Flash curb stomb by Magneto. Magneto at full power is a team basher.
isnt cable a time traveler? PLus vulcan can remove energy from supes and Gl.
If im right then Team 1 owns Flash and Friends.
I think Team 1 would put up a good fight (Cable,Magneto and Vulcan especially) but as powerful as they are. Not sure if they could take out Superman.
So Team 2, though I like Team 1 more.
magneto can nulify superman and ice man can slick the ground up for flash. team 1.they will already be dead before they can even initiate a plan.
Highest showing Flash is probably the most powerful "normal" Super hero around. Vulcan's got a nifty power but it's not really an issue for flash. Lightspeed and all.
Iceman could presumably survive Flash's speed blitz and reconstitute, but then Flash can just speed steal him and have Superman fly him into a black hole.
@thanosii said:
at full power vulcan had time manipulation powers similar to zoom, he also had adaption powers similar to doomsday, energy manipultaion greater than captain atom. All those guys have soloed jla so this is rape.
yes, Flash can't blitz them, Vulcan can stop time easily
vulcan drains solar from superman...he drains the electricity from flash.... he can easily beat GL...also doesnt he have magical or reality warp energy so he can beat all in one second
vulcan drains solar from superman...he drains the electricity from flash.... he can easily beat GL...also doesnt he have magical or reality warp energy so he can beat all in one second
Someone's been playing too much DCUO.
@dredeuced: Ice man has reached matters of absolute zero which means no molecule motion was present yet he could still move as if nothing had changed. Speed steal IIRC take the movement out of the oppositions molecules. So speed steal in theory should never work against iceman. Also flash freeze could instantaneously wreck team 2. If he's behind magnetos shields to start the fight, team 1 wins via iceman.
@jedixman: @saren: @god_spawn: think it's funny how the three moderators in here think team 2 would win because of blitzing yet none of these characters would blitz in character and according to OP only team 1's morals are off.
@dredeuced: Ice man has reached matters of absolute zero which means no molecule motion was present yet he could still move as if nothing had changed. Speed steal IIRC take the movement out of the oppositions molecules. So speed steal in theory should never work against iceman. Also flash freeze could instantaneously wreck team 2. If he's behind magnetos shields to start the fight, team 1 wins via iceman.
He said absolute zero then demonstrated that, when he used it, molecules could move. Kind of defeats the purpose, huh? A guy can call his attack absolute zero but if it displays none of the actual effect of making something lose all molecular movement then it lacks that feats, don't you think?
Iceman still has kinetic energy when he himself moves his ice bodies, not that that's really a big deal because he can make a new ice clone or whatever if one gets speed stolen because he's a consciousness inhabiting an element. Regardless, even in the event that Iceman is immune to every thing Flash can do, and he DOES have absolute zero to stop Flash, explain to me how he would ever in a million years hit Flash with any of his ice blasts short of obscene jobbing. Iceman isn't Captain Cold, he can't put up a static AoE field of absolute zero -- the only time he even said absolute zero he used his hands to shoot ice on a big strong dude before the dude broke out pretty effortlessly.
Magneto's shields wouldn't hold up for crap against Superman or GL and Flash could quite easily blitz him before he could think, as has been stated. Mags has been blitzed by Quicksilver, of all people, so it's hardly an issue for team 2.
Team 2 blitzes all the time. Flash has blitzed literally dozens of times to defeat his opposition. It's his most used maneuver. Superman has also blitzed countless times. It's very in character for them. None of the mods were saying team 2 blitzes and kills team 1 or anything.
GL blitzing, not so much, but frankly, I don't think the combined might of Team 1 would even be a match for Hal Jordan just on a raw power perspective, if I'm being honest. Nothing they could do should really be able to phase him and they've got no defense for his firepower outside of Iceman's ability to regenerate. Maybe Vulcan on his best day could pull it off but even then I'm skeptical.
Did Op mean highest power ever or at full power currently? If this is last seen current versions then team 1. Current Flash at full power doesn't have IMP. Green Lantern would be useless against Vulcan… wIth morals off Magneto Too Iron ripped ripped out Hal's body. Who's broken Magneto's shields easy? It's with stood Thor's Hammer. Iceman at full power is scary. He oculd kill the whole world with a bought…atleast that was his words and he kind of brushed off Thor easy. He can become a giant that bust cities up…. over 100 tonner easy. Ice man controls temperature he can make the snow as high as skyscrapers and make the world as cold as he wants. Flash out. Vulcan is a better matchup for Superman then he was with Gladiator because of Superman's source of Power. His cells are filled with solar energy that he should be able to absorb.
@dredeuced: magnetos shields have tanked a full on blast from captain universe already. Which is stated to be MUCH stronger than supes could ever dream to be. It was when spidey was in control of the power. If morals are off ice man can freeze the water molecules in flashes body. He doesn't need shoot ice at him. He just needs to see him and flash could die. If you're going to tell me that in character flash and superman wouldn't try to talk things out at any point in the fight, you're just lying to yourself. Supes and flash could break iceman. Then maybe beat the team. But while they're not paying attention iceman reanimates behind them and freezes their insides out.
@dredeuced: Ice man has reached matters of absolute zero which means no molecule motion was present yet he could still move as if nothing had changed. Speed steal IIRC take the movement out of the oppositions molecules. So speed steal in theory should never work against iceman. Also flash freeze could instantaneously wreck team 2. If he's behind magnetos shields to start the fight, team 1 wins via iceman.
you know u can't apply real world physics to comics. if we go by that then supes and the flash should be able to just wreck the team before they can even think of doing something about it.
@dredeuced: magnetos shields have tanked a full on blast from captain universe already. Which is stated to be MUCH stronger than supes could ever dream to be. It was when spidey was in control of the power. If morals are off ice man can freeze the water molecules in flashes body. He doesn't need shoot ice at him. He just needs to see him and flash could die. If you're going to tell me that in character flash and superman wouldn't try to talk things out at any point in the fight, you're just lying to yourself. Supes and flash could break iceman. Then maybe beat the team. But while they're not paying attention iceman reanimates behind them and freezes their insides out.
he didn't tank those. magneto ran from spidey. he would have gotten obliterated had he not.
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