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#1 Posted by claws (5061 posts) - - Show Bio

iceman is current in this battle

#2 Posted by MUTANT413 (402 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman isn't that good. True, he has been listed as an Omega-level mutant, but he has yet to display that kind of power in battle. If he works with his powers enough, he has potential to be on par with the other Omegas, but he has a long way to go before reaching his full potential.

#3 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio
MUTANT413 said:
"Iceman isn't that good. True, he has been listed as an Omega-level mutant, but he has yet to display that kind of power in battle. If he works with his powers enough, he has potential to be on par with the other Omegas, but he has a long way to go before reaching his full potential."
As long as he can exist as an elemental, there will be people who disagree with you.
#4 Posted by claws (5061 posts) - - Show Bio

ok then....

#5 Posted by MrDirector786 (43553 posts) - - Show Bio

Just wondering, how do Iceman's power compare to Superman's freezing breath? This is because I'm pretty sure Wonder Woman has been frozen by Superman before.

#6 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio
MrDirector786 said:
"Just wondering, how do Iceman's power compare to Superman's freezing breath? This is because I'm pretty sure Wonder Woman has been frozen by Superman before.
"
I'm not sure. 
#7 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman :]

#8 Posted by Strafe Prower (11887 posts) - - Show Bio

I love WW but Iceman stomp!

#9 Posted by MUTANT413 (402 posts) - - Show Bio
MrDirector786 said:
"Just wondering, how do Iceman's power compare to Superman's freezing breath? This is because I'm pretty sure Wonder Woman has been frozen by Superman before.
"

If Superman's bio here on the 'Vine is accurate, Superman has been known to extinguish stars with his breath. Now, Superman has gone through a lot of changes in the potency of his powers over the years, but Iceman has never been able to accomplish a feat anywhere close to star-extinguishing.
#10 Posted by claws (5061 posts) - - Show Bio

how did supes get into this?

#11 Posted by Kataklysmo (859 posts) - - Show Bio
MUTANT413 said:
"MrDirector786 said:
"Just wondering, how do Iceman's power compare to Superman's freezing breath? This is because I'm pretty sure Wonder Woman has been frozen by Superman before.
"

If Superman's bio here on the 'Vine is accurate, Superman has been known to extinguish stars with his breath. Now, Superman has gone through a lot of changes in the potency of his powers over the years, but Iceman has never been able to accomplish a feat anywhere close to star-extinguishing."

Wait what the hell? He freezes stars out?

Has to be pre-crisis silver age because that kind of power is a load of bullshit for Superman. No offense.
#12 Posted by MUTANT413 (402 posts) - - Show Bio
claws said:
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how did supes get into this?

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Apparently, Superman has beaten Wonder Woman before by freezing her with his breath. We're trying to determine if Iceman's freezing capabilities are comparable to those of Superman. As you can see in my last post, I don't think they're very even.
#13 Posted by claws (5061 posts) - - Show Bio

kataklysmo is right, the supes exguisthing an star was silver age supes his super breath has been weakened

#14 Posted by MUTANT413 (402 posts) - - Show Bio
MrDirector786 said:
"Just wondering, how do Iceman's power compare to Superman's freezing breath? This is because I'm pretty sure Wonder Woman has been frozen by Superman before.
"
So what 'age' of Superman was in when he froze WW?
#15 Posted by claws (5061 posts) - - Show Bio

this thread has gotten no where

#16 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't ice, "ice"?  I mean really, unless Superman has Mystic cold or alien cold that is not known to this world, then Iceman has the same kind of advantage.  And freezing Wonder Woman is hardly the argument I'd use.  I'd start with the theory that he could spring from her body and leave it dead.

#17 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman 

#18 Posted by darkszoom (35 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman takes this folk and quite easy I think. wonder woman is basically a brick like it or not sure she is great fight but her powers won't do much don't know what other weapons she has other than her lasso dont know if she have something that can blast iceman with lightning to fry him with if she does then she stands a chance in my opinion

#19 Posted by Pwok21 (2380 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman would win after a long and hard battle.

Wonder Woman would speed blitz and he would keep reforming until she let her guard down long enough for him to freeze her internal organs.

#20 Posted by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought WW was better than that. :/

#21 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio

I think iceman would win this. He could freeze her inside out instantly.

#22 Posted by menaceforever (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman has officially become the new lash

#23 Posted by theicon (1797 posts) - - Show Bio

wonder woman

#24 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio
@theicon: how?
#25 Posted by theicon (1797 posts) - - Show Bio

@stonerthps: Shes way faster, stronger, versitile , plus Wonder woman will break free from Icemans Freezing attacks.

#26 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio
@theicon: How will she break free from his freezing attacks if he freezes her inside out? He can become a mist and act as one. I don't see how ww can win this.
#27 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3832 posts) - - Show Bio

She kills him before he transforms...

#28 Edited by Sageclawz (38 posts) - - Show Bio

WW would stomp if her only weakness wasn't having her hands bound by a man....

#29 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio
@Evil Incarnate said:

She kills him before he transforms...

He transforms? 
 
@Sageclawz said:

WW would stomp if her only weakness wasn't having her hands bound by a man....

He would freeze her inside out. I don't think it matters.
#30 Posted by fanofsuperheroes (215 posts) - - Show Bio

In my humble opinion I think this would be a great battle. Iceman I think has much more versatility so he has a couple of ways to win this. WW also has a couple ways to win this. Iceman freezing WW inside out, do you think she is just going to stand there and let it happen? She would of course move out of the area of affect unless you think Iceman is going to freeze EVERYONE inside out just to get one woman. Also I don't think WW would automatically speed blitz him, however, once she realizes, (and she would pretty quickly), that speed is her biggest advantage, she would probably use it much more so than we usually see her use it. I honestly think WW still has YEARS of battle experience under her belt which will give her the slight edge and win. Power is great when one can and does use it fully to their advantage and KNOW how to use it in battle, but when one is far more skilled in the area of battle then it takes a much more creative use of ones powers to overcome such skill. And as far as I know it, Iceman still hasn't come close to his full potential as witnessed when Emma Frost took over his mind and tapped into it.

#31 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio
@fanofsuperheroes: He doesn't use "area of effect" tf? 
 
#32 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@stonerthps said:


                    @fanofsuperheroes: He doesn't use "area of effect" tf? 
 


                   

               
Iceman is so overated. Really he has this one good showing.... one. Its not consitant at all. He got jobbered by Rulk. Why didnt he Flash Freez him???  
 
In character he doesnt do this at all. He also gets KOed still for some reason..... thats a win for WW.
#33 Posted by Almighty_Darkseid (1724 posts) - - Show Bio

@Evil Incarnate said:

She kills him before he transforms...

#34 Posted by blackadam2 (301 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@stonerthps said:
@fanofsuperheroes: He doesn't use "area of effect" tf?

Iceman is so overated. Really he has this one good showing.... one. Its not consitant at all. He got jobbered by Rulk. Why didnt he Flash Freez him??? In character he doesnt do this at all. He also gets KOed still for some reason..... thats a win for WW.

He didn't get jobbed by Rulk, he was fighting physically with him, using his ice avatars. In character he freezed to absoulute zero the helmet of the worthy Juggernaut. i agree that he didn't use his abilities againts Rulk, but he was able to go toe to toe with him; in another instance with kid gladiator, Iceman was able to contain him and got his head blasted. Fighting with Exodus, Iceman got his body blasted and was able to recover, alhouth it took 4 pages.

#35 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@blackadam2
That sounds like a Temporary KO to me. Speed Blitz for the win.
#36 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3832 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sageclawz said:

WW would stomp if her only weakness wasn't having her hands bound by a man....

What are you 80? That hasn't been a weakness of hers in decades.

#37 Edited by blackadam2 (301 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@blackadam2: That sounds like a Temporary KO to me. Speed Blitz for the win.

Yes, that would count as a temporary ko. Are you talking current wonder woman? Although, when his head was blasted, Iceman regenerated at once. Can WW produce the same energy as Exodus.

#38 Posted by SaintJohn (143 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman(aoa) in the uncanny x-men was able to create avatars in many different sizes and basically make an army of Icemen and also not to recently his power is defined as not being able to create ice but to take away heat from objects which spells trouble for ww. but she can never really kill him though.

#39 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Evil Incarnate said:

She kills him before he transforms...

#40 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman

#41 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate.

#42 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@SaintJohn
She doesnt need to kill. Just destroy his body via Speed Blitz. Thats a KO. She wins.
#43 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

ww can b stop by ice WINNER ICEMAN

#44 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio
@CadenceV2 said:
@SaintJohn: She doesnt need to kill. Just destroy his body via Speed Blitz. Thats a KO. She wins.
It's not a ko by any means at all. He's an elemental he can be a mist and freeze her inside out if it's what he has to do.
#45 Posted by karetaker (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: thats not gonna ko him

#46 Posted by karetaker (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

ice man murderstomps. ww cant hurt him

#47 Posted by Romulus9000 (377 posts) - - Show Bio

Bobby stomps hard here. Diana is amazing but she can't match Bobby on a power scale. As we have seen in AvX Bobby can easily match up against Red Hulk. Also Bobby really cant be harmed. Anything Diana is going to hack off or smash Bobby can just grow right back.

At the moment Bobby is technically immortal. He cant age because he can replace old cells with new ones using water molecules in the air. And he cant be killed for the same reason.

There is literally nothing Diana can do to him. And if he splits up into 50 of himself she is really screwed.

#48 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@claws said:


                    iceman is current in this battle

                   

               

Where does it say WIN BY DEATH? 
 
Where? Thats the OP. 
 
Wolverine cant die either but be incapacitated. Iceman forming a new body sounds like he was incapacitated to me. Thats a KO.
#49 Posted by Romulus9000 (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: No because he is not knocked out by that. This is an easy stomp on iceman's part. He could freeze enough water molecules in her brain to knock her out. Or any number of other things he could do, but he's been broken and smashed before and not been knocked unconscious.

#50 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio
@CadenceV2 said:
@claws said:


                    iceman is current in this battle

                   

               
Where does it say WIN BY DEATH?  Where? Thats the OP.  Wolverine cant die either but be incapacitated. Iceman forming a new body sounds like he was incapacitated to me. Thats a KO.
He doesn't need a "body" that's where you are mistaken. He's an elemental he can be mist in the air and he'll stomp her because she can't hurt him. He can be ice and shatter him to pieces but he's still in complete control of his pieces because he's an elemental.