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Any Scarlett witch expert here???

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@icecold14: in HOM she got shot by Hawkeye and came back without a scratch.

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Iceman should win

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#55  Edited By icecold14

@princess_kenny: But how will she do against getting all her molecules frozen in an instant??

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@icecold14: Can Iceman beat the Phoenix? Because HoM Scarlet Witch is about that level

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@zhurong: The phoenix cant be hurt by bobby at all but on the other hand SW could

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#59  Edited By Infinite_Lifes

Can't Scarlet Witch reality warp

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@infinite_lifes: Yes but if iceman freezes her first than he wins but i really wanna know something can SW revive herself if her water molecules are all frozen?? someone please help here because if she could ill admit SW wins

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#61  Edited By Koays

If Scarlet Witch is at full potential then she wins do to the nature of her powers.

Otherwise Bobby stomps unless he's not fighting smart.

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@koays: Well if we are using current versions Iceman wins wouldnt you agree??

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@icecold14: 6/ 10 times yea. It's just Scarlet Witch does weird hex stuff the other 4.

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@koays: Now if both were at full potential that would be different i can see scarlett witch winning since she could revive herself according to people here....

Also can current SW wipe someone out of existence??

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@icecold14: current Scarlet Witch no. But a full potential Scarlet Witch can play with the rules of reality so it's not clear what if anything she can't do.

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@koays: Oh okay so current Scarlett Witch doesnt have anything to put down Bobby??

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#67  Edited By Koays

@icecold14: I wouldn't go that far since her powers are unpredictable and Bobby rarely fights smart or at full potential. But generally Iceman can beat or neutralize her with a single attack if he tries.

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Wanda should win 10/10

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#69  Edited By icecold14

@koays: Oh no i was just asking you my friend since you know more of SW.... also can current SW revive herself?? Is there any mental attacks that she has currently??

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@koays: oh okay because someone brought up something about hawkeye shooting her and she revived herself...

Does she have any mental attacks that could take down Bobby instanly?? because if not than Iceman kills her instanly with Flash Freeze :)

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If Scarlet Witch is at full power then Iceman cant win here because Wanda can manipulate reality itself. I dnt see Iceman being able to handle something like that.

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@icecold14: Scarlet witches instakill is in question again because her powers are the definition of shenanigans. But yea Bobby in a serious fight can take her in seconds....the problem being Bobby isn't serious

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@koays: Both are being serious off course :) how long does the insta kill take for SW to use it??

And also whats with people saying SW revived herself after being shot by hawkeye??

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@icecold14: Lol even when being serious Bobby sometimes just isn't smart.

Witch did something like that during House of M. But she was also effecting the entire multiverse, it was at the height of her power though.

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Iceman is strong but HoM Wanda is multiversal. Also Wanda doesn't need to speak in order to affect reality. That is a common misconception because of her "no more mutants" instance. Iceman isn't in her tier.

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@koays: True but i mean if were using both bloodlusted than hes serious obviously :)

Oh okay so she cant revive or heal herself if bobby freezes her molecules currently??

And also how fast is her inta kill??

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@icecold14: Then the statement wasn't directed at you, hence why I didn't tag you.

It was for those saying that iceman could kill her before she spoke.

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@icecold14: Blood lusted Iceman is basically omnipotent once he becomes one with the weather. Scarlet Witches instakill can arguably be the time it takes her to think him powerless, vulnerable or into the sun....but more then likely it's about a minute for her to gather the necessary strength. She destroyed the Phoenix in a matter of seconds once she had to but she'd been prepping for a week. Similar when she teleporter the Mutant race off world against the Apocalypse twins.

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@hulkage: relax buddy im just agreeing with you

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@koays: True but all iceman needs is less than a second which is faster than anything she could do currently so thats why you say Bobby wins huh?? :)

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@koays: Oh alright than buddy finally a solution to all this :) one more question thoe can SW heal or revive herself currently if her molecules are all frozen??

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#85  Edited By Koays

@icecold14: No she cant. She's done nothing to make me think she could...but if she some how avoided death or survived I wouldn't be surprised because her powers are so unpredictable....

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@koays: Probably at full potential she will do it :) but currently like you said its not happening...

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@icecold14:

Honestly, I say Scarlett witch wins because she has been said to be the most powerful member of the Avengers.

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@jagernutt: But like @Koays said iceman has a faster reaction which SW has no answer to...

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@icecold14:

Is there anything substantial he can really even do to someone as powerful as her?

And does Iceman have FTL reaction time now?

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@jagernutt: He did to legion who is way more powerful than SW but Legion had an answer to it something SW doesnt...

All he has to do is think to freeze her molecules :)

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@icecold14:

She cant just wish herself immune to freezing? Or wish herself superspeed? She is a reality warper after all.

Who is legion.? How did he prove Iceman is superfast?

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@jagernutt: Legion is one of the most powerful Mutants in Marvel he even made SW look like a joke as he was a more powerful reality warper than her....

Iceman froze him with a mere thought something legion didnt even expect but Legion had the power to unfreeze every single molecule in his body something SW cant do...

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@icecold14:

How do you know she cant unfreeze. Maybe she likes to be frozen.

Anyway, its hard for me picture her losing to Iceman without seeing more Iceman speed feats. I dont believe she would let her guard down do to arrogance or ignorance.

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@jagernutt: Lol I get you but Iceman by no means is weak I mean he froze the whole planet in seconds now freezing someones molecules would be easier and faster as it was seen against Legion :)

Now if SW was at full power like in HOM than SW would be the winner here

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@icecold14:

Yes but you said Legion wasn't expecting it. Surely Wanda knows Icemans power and can counter his effects.

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I'll go with Iceman. Scarlet Witch could change his molecular structure, but he'll just reform from all the snow on Everest. The probability that all that snow will just disappear is 0/0. It might melt, but it won't disappear. And all Iceman needs is a second to go absolute zero.

However I don't know that much on Scarlet Witch, I could be wrong.

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@jagernutt: Actually she doesnt know anything of bobby and honestly SW doesnt have the reaction speed to counter Bobbys attack since his reaction speed is as quick as a thought....