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#1 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

"i did it already, Green Lantern won. lol "
Darn, should be an interesting fight.
#3 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

i did it already, Green Lantern won. lol

#4 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah, i thought Iceman would of gave the GL a hard time but his ring protects from all extremes of heat and cold.

#5 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

"yeah, i thought Iceman would of gave the GL a hard time but his ring protects from all extremes of heat and cold. "
Yeah it should. But Iceman can do more than just make things cold.
#6 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

nah... Iceman hasn't got anything that can defeat a Green Lantern's shields...

aside from the fact that your using one of the strongest Green Lanterns out there lol

M

#7 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"acewasp23 says:
"yeah, i thought Iceman would of gave the GL a hard time but his ring protects from all extremes of heat and cold. "
Yeah it should. But Iceman can do more than just make things cold. "

yeah like remove the water from a persons body, freeze the air in their lungs and so on. problem is the ring would protect its user from the outside environment and any changes to the ring slinger.

#8 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

lol... it ain't the most powerful weapon in the universe for no reason :D

M

#9 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

"Nobody says:
"acewasp23 says:
"yeah, i thought Iceman would of gave the GL a hard time but his ring protects from all extremes of heat and cold. "
Yeah it should. But Iceman can do more than just make things cold. "
yeah like remove the water from a persons body, freeze the air in their lungs and so on. problem is the ring would protect its user from the outside environment and any changes to the ring slinger. "
So the ring auotmaticly protects its weilder from any attack?
#10 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"lol... it ain't the most powerful weapon in the universe for no reason :D M"

LoL makes you wonder what power ring is the most powerful of the 7 colors.

#11 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"So the ring auotmaticly protects its weilder from any attack? "

Methos says:

"lol... it ain't the most powerful weapon in the universe for no reason :D M"
#12 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"So the ring auotmaticly protects its weilder from any attack?"

not "attack" as you mean it, but it would sense any temperature change as being the environment and adjust to compensate... the rings all have an AI built in, so they are amazingly smart when it comes to stuff like this.

M

#13 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Nobody says:
"So the ring auotmaticly protects its weilder from any attack?"
not "attack" as you mean it, but it would sense any temperature change as being the environment and adjust to compensate... the rings all have an AI built in, so they are amazingly smart when it comes to stuff like this. M "
But what could the ring do if its only part of him freezing? Like his lungs? Or if the water was being pulled from his body?
#14 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

What about pulling the GL's water out of his body?

#15 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"But what could the ring do if its only part of him freezing? Like his lungs? Or if the water was being pulled from his body?"

it's still just a temperature change and would adapt it's shielding to compensate

M

#16 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Nobody says:
"But what could the ring do if its only part of him freezing? Like his lungs? Or if the water was being pulled from his body?"
it's still just a temperature change and would adapt it's shielding to compensate M "
Water being pulled out his body isn't a temperature change though.
#17 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"Water being pulled out his body isn't a temperature change though."

no, but thats a direct attack and wouldn't get through the shields...

The Green Lantern shields are literally the best in the universe, they can withstand anything from Supernova's to telepathic / telekenetic attacks.

M

#18 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Nobody says:
"Water being pulled out his body isn't a temperature change though."
no, but thats a direct attack and wouldn't get through the shields... The Green Lantern shields are literally the best in the universe, they can withstand anything from Supernova's to telepathic / telekenetic attacks. M "
Well then I give up. I do see how a gl loses unless they fight god himself.
#19 Posted by Wanda Maximoff (178 posts) - - Show Bio

How did Slade beat Kyle if the GL's are so badass? I mean he broke Kyle's fingers I know, but how'd he get close enough to do it? And if he can get that close, couldn't Iceman?

#20 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"Well then I give up. I do see how a gl loses unless they fight god himself. "

or other power ring users, superman like characters, and people that are great at absorbing and using energy.

#21 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Wanda Maximoff says:

"How did Slade beat Kyle if the GL's are so badass? I mean he broke Kyle's fingers I know, but how'd he get close enough to do it? And if he can get that close, couldn't Iceman?"

bad writing.... that's the only explanation. lol

#22 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Wanda Maximoff says:

"How did Slade beat Kyle if the GL's are so badass? I mean he broke Kyle's fingers I know, but how'd he get close enough to do it? And if he can get that close, couldn't Iceman?"

I've always debated that one...

it's the epitome of bad writing.

thats all i can say about that.

M

Nobody says:

"Well then I give up. I do see how a gl loses unless they fight god himself."

there are several ways to beat GL's... it takes time and a lot of power though.

M

#23 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

"Nobody says:
"Well then I give up. I do see how a gl loses unless they fight god himself. "
or other power ring users, superman like characters, and people that are great at absorbing and using energy. "
Energy abosorbs couldn't cause a GL could just use the surroundings to defeat them. I don't think Superman like characters can too except for Superman.
#24 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

the main problem with Green Lanterns, or any power ring users, is that they are pretty much in a class of their own...

they can outclass a lot of people, even so far as being able to defeat Superman with ease...

but against someone like Dr Light, who is basically a joke against any other DCU hero... Dr Light can easily kick the crap out of any Green Lantern with ease...

M

#25 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"acewasp23 says:
"Nobody says:
"Well then I give up. I do see how a gl loses unless they fight god himself. "
or other power ring users, superman like characters, and people that are great at absorbing and using energy. "
Energy abosorbs couldn't cause a GL could just use the surroundings to defeat them. I don't think Superman like characters can too except for Superman. "

Superman Prime took out a lot of GLs(im not sure on the number though), and people that can Absorb massive amounts of energy like the silver surfer and photon would be able to drain the ring of its power.

#26 Posted by Mink (152 posts) - - Show Bio

Icemans my favorite hero of all time, but GL got this. GL would put up a sheild, and create a green meteor construct thing and obliterate him.

R.I.P. Iceman

#27 Posted by Cannonball (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope I think Iceman would win because he can turn the air into ice. Cool huh? He can create ice out of green lantern's body and destory him. Green Lantern is out.

#28 Posted by White Phantom (1760 posts) - - Show Bio

No-way. Green Lantern's force field would be to strong for it. Iceman wouldn't get through.

#29 Posted by Darth Balls (691 posts) - - Show Bio

Its to easy though that ring has to much power.icemaqn i would put him up against alot of people to win but his powers dont go to that of green lanterns ring.

#30 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah, it's the general consensus that GL wins this, especially Kyle lol

M

#31 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

If air can get through his shield, he's screwed. You can go on and on about the great powers of GL, but even by comic standards, realistically GL would lose. Ice Man is pretty damn near indestructible. GL could smash him, then he'd eventually let his guard down, only to inhale air and have Bobby materialize inside him, killing him instantly. Not a direct attack, and if GL wants to breathe..well, there you go.

#32 Posted by Dormath (2398 posts) - - Show Bio

M"LoL makes you wonder what power ring is the most powerful of the 7 colors."

Power from least to most should be Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue(indigo), Violet.

#33 Posted by Buckshot (18867 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Wanda Maximoff says:
"How did Slade beat Kyle if the GL's are so badass? I mean he broke Kyle's fingers I know, but how'd he get close enough to do it? And if he can get that close, couldn't Iceman?"

I've always debated that one...

it's the epitome of bad writing.

thats all i can say about that.

M

"

I know you're the GL guy but I've got to disagree. I can think of at least two plausible reasons for it.

  1. Kyle didn't have a shield up. The GLs usually have shields (or their autoshields protect them) but there have been instances where they just don't show up and GLs get hurt. I wouldn't call that "bad" writing, just writing that makes it possible for a fight to take place at all. It's not using the character (Kyle) to his full potential or ability, but that rarely happens anyway because if it did, things wouldn't be as fun.

  2. The same way DS did the battle of wills thing in the first place. He broke his hand while holding it (the ring hand) so maybe while holding his hand, he exerted some of his own will and either bypassed the ring that way, or used its own power to break Kyle's fingers. After he broke his fingers and Kyle realized what he was up to (fighting for control) they struggled for a bit, but if the initial hand break happened before Kyle was actually resisting, then DS could have done what I mentioned.

Both of these requires some assumptions, but I don't think you need to take huge leaps of logic. I prefer trying to find ways that things could actually happen before calling junk bad writing. It might be, but I like my way better.

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#34 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormath says:

"Power from least to most should be Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue(indigo), Violet."

whys that?
Post Edited:2007-11-30 04:34:59

#35 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

i could see it being the shields not being up, depending on what happened previously in the comic. it could be that Kyle didn't know of the danger or rather it happened to fast for him to react.

#36 Posted by Dormath (2398 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

BLOCKQUOTE>whys that?
Post Edited:2007-11-30 04:34:59"

Its the Visable spectrum Ultra violet being the most intese. on a realated note there was also a big story line in malibu comics about a power based off the spectrum i remember it from that as well.

#37 Posted by Cannonball (11 posts) - - Show Bio

ICEMAN COULD CREATE THE ICE AND REFLECT THE SUN TO GREEN LANTERN.THE SUN CAN CREATE YELLOW COLOUR. HE COULD CREATE YELLOW AND DESTROYS GREEN LANTERN'S POWERS AND TAKE ADVANTAGE

#38 Posted by Dormath (2398 posts) - - Show Bio

Cannonball says:

"ICEMAN COULD CREATE THE ICE AND REFLECT THE SUN TO GREEN LANTERN.THE SUN CAN CREATE YELLOW COLOUR. HE COULD CREATE YELLOW AND DESTROYS GREEN LANTERN'S POWERS AND TAKE ADVANTAGE"

but the "Fear" or Yellow has been over come by Kyle and a few other GL's

#39 Posted by White Phantom (1760 posts) - - Show Bio

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#40 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

if you put this battle against one of the more inexperienced GL's, it might give Iceman a chance...

against someone of Kyle's caliber, he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell.

M

#41 Posted by White Phantom (1760 posts) - - Show Bio

Cannonball says:

"ICEMAN COULD CREATE THE ICE AND REFLECT THE SUN TO GREEN LANTERN.THE SUN CAN CREATE YELLOW COLOUR. HE COULD CREATE YELLOW AND DESTROYS GREEN LANTERN'S POWERS AND TAKE ADVANTAGE"

Dormath says:

but the "Fear" or Yellow has been over come by Kyle and a few other GL's"

Dormath's got a point Cannonball. And besides, sunlight never stops GL in the comics. And even if it did, GL's powers wouldn't be destroyed, they just wouldn't work against the sunlight.


Post Edited:2007-11-30 15:18:26

#42 Posted by vegeta (4901 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"if you put this battle against one of the more inexperienced GL's, it might give Iceman a chance... against someone of Kyle's caliber, he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell. M"

snowbal ha lmao

#43 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Korg says:

"Iceman turns to vapor, GL inhales vapor, Iceman solidifies, GL dead."

which wouldn't work as it wouldn't get through Kyle's shield...

nice try though

M

#44 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman turns to vapor, GL inhales vapor, Iceman solidifies, GL dead.

#45 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Flash says:

"Wouldn't it work if he Gl didn't see him? Does his ring let him know Iceman is there....?"

he could easily run a scan of the area... GL rings have a lot more uses that just creating fancy lights lol

M

#46 Posted by Green Flash (155 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't it work if he Gl didn't see him? Does his ring let him know Iceman is there....?

#47 Posted by Green Flash (155 posts) - - Show Bio

well i knew that, I forgot about the scan...touche. It'd be pretty sweet to watch however. Iceman would pull out all the stops

#48 Posted by Gloom (3653 posts) - - Show Bio

Quick question: Are GL rings vulnerable to magic? Or can they repel mystical threats too?

P.S. I know Iceman can't do magic, I just wanted to know.

#49 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

which wouldn't work as it wouldn't get through Kyle's shield...nice try thoughM"

GL suffocates, Iceman wins.

#50 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Korg says:

"GL suffocates, Iceman wins."

not going to happen...

a GL's shield automatically creates oxygen for them to breathe... how else do you think the survive space travel?

M