@carter_esque: Since Firelord only knows about Icemans powers through word of mouth. I don't think he would know that he could refrom from anything. Would he? It would decide the winer if he knew.
Firelord. I doubt iceman could do any serious harm to Firelord. Firelord is a herald who has fought powerful beings such as surfer and made it a fight, Iceman is just out of his league. He could reform but it will be in vain if he can't harm firelord.
And for the record, Firelord in an energy construct, not a fire construct. Dumping water on him will do nothing and thats also why he can be in space with his flame still on.
Deep space has temperatures of -270 deg Kelvin, just 3 deg Kelvin above absolute zero and Firelord has survived these extremes for indefinite periods without harm. Firelord's reaction time is faster, he is far more durable and the range and extent of his powers are greater. Firelord for the win.
Fire the makes SS run away. If you don't know, SS has survive inside Stars the can go as hot as 27 to 80 million degrees F. Has made Thor sweat, Thor too has survived inside the sun with no problems....Energy output of a small Star.
And Firelord stomps, but I wouldn't lock it, because it seems that Iceman will get some serious boost (or he will show some skill with powers) in next months in Astonishing X-Men.
Currently - no reason to belive that he can overcome Firelord's fire, but I think that we will see in next months what is his full potential. At least I've heard that we will.
@carter_esque: Could you please stop trolling Firelord. You keep trying to use one of the biggest Pis events in marvel history as credible evidence when it is not. Firelord consistently is shown to be at thor/surfer level, spider man beating him is ridiculous.
Look, whether it was PIS or not, "it happened" so stop wanking Firelord and give Iceman more credit where it's due. If Spidey beat Firelord than Iceman has a legitimate chance to do the same.
Look, whether it was PIS or not, "it happened" so stop wanking Firelord and give Iceman more credit where it's due. If Spidey beat Firelord than Iceman has a legitimate chance to do the same.
I'm sorry, but clearly you're new and haven't actually read the rules for Comic Vine. We don't count PIS/CIS battles. Hell the rules even talks about Spider-Man beating Firelord and to not use it and other low end feats like Deadpool being knocked out by a hot dog. Please read the rules and then get back to us on this matter.
We do count CIS actually, that is why we use "in character" in OP.
True, but even then the CIS is still limited to a degree. For example many people will say that "in character" Superman, Wonder Woman, etc don't speed blitz, but there are plenty of instances to the contrary. I digress as it's a moot point in this battle anyway as there are no morals.
Look, whether it was PIS or not, "it happened" so stop wanking Firelord and give Iceman more credit where it's due. If Spidey beat Firelord than Iceman has a legitimate chance to do the same.
This scan shows up on every Firelord thread. This did happen, but it was just terrible writing. Firelord has many more feats then this one occasion that show him having an incredibly high degree of power. Everyone knows that Spiderman should be dead if Firelord wants him dead. We should really focus on the majority of Firelord's feats, and not this random outlier that shows him as a jobber.
Look, whether it was PIS or not, "it happened" so stop wanking Firelord and give Iceman more credit where it's due. If Spidey beat Firelord than Iceman has a legitimate chance to do the same.
This scan shows up on every Firelord thread. This did happen, but it was just terrible writing. Firelord has many more feats then this one occasion that show him having an incredibly high degree of power. Everyone knows that Spiderman should be dead if Firelord wants him dead. We should really focus on the majority of Firelord's feats, and not this random outlier that shows him as a jobber.
If we took every low ball feat into account then this would show up in every Thanos thread.
Look, whether it was PIS or not, "it happened" so stop wanking Firelord and give Iceman more credit where it's due. If Spidey beat Firelord than Iceman has a legitimate chance to do the same.
This scan shows up on every Firelord thread. This did happen, but it was just terrible writing. Firelord has many more feats then this one occasion that show him having an incredibly high degree of power. Everyone knows that Spiderman should be dead if Firelord wants him dead. We should really focus on the majority of Firelord's feats, and not this random outlier that shows him as a jobber.
If we took every low ball feat into account then this would show up in every Thanos thread.
Rofl.. is that Thanos being hauled away by mere policemen?? Wow.. there were some really bad or misinformed writers back in Marvel's eariler days. I didn't wanna go off topoc but after seeing this scan, I just had to write about the utter ridiculousness of it.
Look, whether it was PIS or not, "it happened" so stop wanking Firelord and give Iceman more credit where it's due. If Spidey beat Firelord than Iceman has a legitimate chance to do the same.
This scan shows up on every Firelord thread. This did happen, but it was just terrible writing. Firelord has many more feats then this one occasion that show him having an incredibly high degree of power. Everyone knows that Spiderman should be dead if Firelord wants him dead. We should really focus on the majority of Firelord's feats, and not this random outlier that shows him as a jobber.
So Iceman doesn't have impressive feats? Since you wanna bring up feats...
Iceman has very impressive feats. I never meant to imply that he doesn't. I was just trying to make a point that the spiderman / firelord battle should not have much importance in this discussion.
Look, whether it was PIS or not, "it happened" so stop wanking Firelord and give Iceman more credit where it's due. If Spidey beat Firelord than Iceman has a legitimate chance to do the same.
I would say that draw with Thor, when Thor belives that fight no longer has any value because they are too close to each other, stalemate with Thor's blast in other occasion, great fights with Surfer (one was won, but Surfer let hi guard down), breaking Surfer's surfboard and using power equal to a small star are all enough to deal with Iceman, considering that there would be no water supply to reform and that Firelord will in the end mindr@pe him.
@the_creator: This is not how temperature works. There's no air or water or any matter to circulate the heat from your body. When you're in the vacuum of space you don't actually feel cold (though it does pull all the air and moisture out of your non pressure tight surfaces). Surviving the cold of space would be less difficult than surviving on earth in subzero temperatures. The vacuum is what kills ya.
That said, Firelord is out of Bobby's weight class.
@carter_esque: I'm not even sure Iceman has the ability to cause harm to Firelord. Firelord has taken blows from Thor and Surfer and isn't fazed. Iceman isn't close to the level Thor and Surfer are at. Iceman can try to hurt him but Firelord is a herald with high durability so he won't be affected.
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