#1 Edited by White Angel Of Death (667 posts) - - Show Bio

Random encounter in Oklahoma. 
 
They start one mile apart.   
 
Balder has two swords.
 
Win by Death - He must kill Iceman atleast twice to win - shatter him
 
Please EXPLAIN who and why?
 

Iceman 

Balder 
#2 Edited by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio

Balder would have a hard time as it is. Why is it that he must "kill" Iceman twice. And how is he going to kill Iceman when we have not seen that actually take place. o.O 
 
Incapacitate sounds a bit better as Iceman has been knocked unconscious in the past.

#3 Posted by White Angel Of Death (667 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:
Balder would have a hard time as it is. Why is it that he must "kill" Iceman twice. And how is he going to kill Iceman when we have not seen that actually take place. o.O
Ok ill edit that. He must shatter him twice to win. Iceman has been shown to reform but after reforming he is extremely weak so could he win?
#4 Posted by giantarms (181 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman isn't weak after shattering. The only time he was "weak" was when he was flash-fried by a super-powered Aurora+Northstar, and it's because he had to literally scrape together from the water molecules of a living person. Plus that was largely bad writing in general.  As a bunch of chunks of ice, Iceman could reform instantly. 
 
That said, Balder isn't going to shatter him. Not easily. Iceman can literally fortify himself 100s of times over and become huge/strong/dense. While he's doing that, he can easily be flash-freezing Balder, or incapacitating him, or killing him by a bunch of other means.

#5 Posted by White Angel Of Death (667 posts) - - Show Bio
@giantarms said:
Iceman isn't weak after shattering. The only time he was "weak" was when he was flash-fried by a super-powered Aurora+Northstar, and it's because he had to literally scrape together from the water molecules of a living person. Plus that was largely bad writing in general.  As a bunch of chunks of ice, Iceman could reform instantly.  That said, Balder isn't going to shatter him. Not easily. Iceman can literally fortify himself 100s of times over and become huge/strong/dense. While he's doing that, he can easily be flash-freezing Balder, or incapacitating him, or killing him by a bunch of other means.
Meh. Balder is the god of light and has  melted the entire fortress of Utgard-Lok which was quite massive. Use that ability combined with his martial arts and skills and he can shatter / melt iceman twice
#6 Posted by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio
@White Angel Of Death said:
@Kallarkz said:
Balder would have a hard time as it is. Why is it that he must "kill" Iceman twice. And how is he going to kill Iceman when we have not seen that actually take place. o.O
Ok ill edit that. He must shatter him twice to win. Iceman has been shown to reform but after reforming he is extremely weak so could he win?
One thing that Balder has going for him is superhuman speed. 
As a Asgardian he has the ability to move faster than Iceman would be able to keep up with. 
 
One of the main (and most common) points that will be used for Iceman will be that Iceman will be able to "freeze his blood". But Iceman has never been seen using that ability against an opponent that has a degree of invulnerability.  
I have only seen him do this twice I believe to ordinary human beings. 
 An advantage that Iceman has is that he is able to augment his physical abilities such as strength and durability when he adds to his ice form. 
 
Starting one mile apart is a very wide range. But it could possibly give Balder the advantage he needs to attack at a point that Iceman is not focusing on. But he has the ability to use a type of "thermal vision" as he could see where the absence of heat is he could detect around where Balder is. 
  
An advantage that Balder has is his ability to emit heat and light. He could possibly blind Iceman temporarily. "But Icemans eyes are made of Ice!" Well Iceman's body is made up of ORGANIC ice. He can still tire while he is in this form as he cannot manipulate ice for an unlimited amount of time. Iceman has also been seeing experiencing pain and becoming fatigued in his Ice form. It logical to believe that his eyes could be temporarily damaged until he would consciously repair them. 
 
Idk. Why do I try when all we will see is "Iceman" in posts below ;p.
#7 Edited by giantarms (181 posts) - - Show Bio

He indeed is. 
 
The thing is that light still requires energy to hurt Iceman, and all Balder can do is GENERATE it... but Iceman has total control of that energy and can literally sap it. That's actually how Iceman freezes things. He doesn't "apply cold", he literally drains the energy that produces heat, etc.

#8 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman stomps.

#9 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7162 posts) - - Show Bio

Ice man takes it Balder is underratted though .
#10 Posted by White Angel Of Death (667 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Iceman stomps.
@Thor's hammmer said:
Ice man takes it Balder is underratted though .
care to explain???@giantarms said:
He indeed is.  The thing is that light still requires energy to hurt Iceman, and all Balder can do is GENERATE it... but Iceman has total control of that energy and can literally sap it. That's actually how Iceman freezes things. He doesn't "apply cold", he literally drains the energy that produces heat, etc.
He doesn't drain any energy. He decreases water vapor in his immediate enviroment. 
 
 Balder has taken on several Frost Giants who can also manipulate water and ice. And has taken on Ultgard-Loki who was quite powerful
#11 Posted by Phylos (2675 posts) - - Show Bio
@White Angel Of Death said:
  Balder has taken on several Frost Giants who can also manipulate water and ice. And has taken on Ultgard-Loki who was quite powerful


   
 
 
 
iceman afterwards.
#12 Posted by White Angel Of Death (667 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:
@White Angel Of Death said:
@Kallarkz said:
Balder would have a hard time as it is. Why is it that he must "kill" Iceman twice. And how is he going to kill Iceman when we have not seen that actually take place. o.O
Ok ill edit that. He must shatter him twice to win. Iceman has been shown to reform but after reforming he is extremely weak so could he win?
One thing that Balder has going for him is superhuman speed. 
As a Asgardian he has the ability to move faster than Iceman would be able to keep up with. 
 
One of the main (and most common) points that will be used for Iceman will be that Iceman will be able to "freeze his blood". But Iceman has never been seen using that ability against an opponent that has a degree of invulnerability.  
I have only seen him do this twice I believe to ordinary human beings. 
 An advantage that Iceman has is that he is able to augment his physical abilities such as strength and durability when he adds to his ice form. 
 
Starting one mile apart is a very wide range. But it could possibly give Balder the advantage he needs to attack at a point that Iceman is not focusing on. But he has the ability to use a type of "thermal vision" as he could see where the absence of heat is he could detect around where Balder is. 
  
An advantage that Balder has is his ability to emit heat and light. He could possibly blind Iceman temporarily. "But Icemans eyes are made of Ice!" Well Iceman's body is made up of ORGANIC ice. He can still tire while he is in this form as he cannot manipulate ice for an unlimited amount of time. Iceman has also been seeing experiencing pain and becoming fatigued in his Ice form. It logical to believe that his eyes could be temporarily damaged until he would consciously repair them.  Idk. Why do I try when all we will see is "Iceman" in posts below ;p.
Very well said :-D
#13 Posted by THORSON (2518 posts) - - Show Bio

baldr. he battles frost giants for a living.

#14 Edited by antiwhipped (220 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman is like an army of frost giants. So iceman.

#15 Edited by robertloucksjr (1836 posts) - - Show Bio

Balder is awfully tough. He is a considerable step above the Warriors Three physically and they can fall out of planes and off skyscrapers with minimal damage and has an Asgardian healing factor. Add in the whole God of Light, which implies considerable heat, and I think Balder can take Iceman.

#16 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8767 posts) - - Show Bio

balder wins this after great fight

#17 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8767 posts) - - Show Bio

@white_angel_of_death: balder wud win do u have any scans of him doing anything crazy or any kind of feats at all

#18 Posted by HellionVulcan (3908 posts) - - Show Bio

@thorson said:

baldr. he battles frost giants for a living.

Iceman was beating Rulk a feat Balder will never have nor come close to as Balder is a low grade God compared to Thor his blade may be what can help him win ,Iceman is just to much he has more means to deal with balder than the other way around .