#1 Edited by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

Street Level Tournament

Thought I'd take a crack at hosting my own tournament. There will be 16 teams in total. First read the rules and restrictions below and make your team!

I'm going to need 4 people who will be willing to judge these matches. I'm also going to act as a judge. You may judge as well as participate, but obviously you can't judge your own fight or show any kind of bias. In each fight, after debating is closed and voting starts, you must explain in detail why you chose one participant over the other. Remember, it's not so much about who necessarily has the best team (although important), but who is most convincing about how their team is going to win.

Rules and Restrictions

  • Characters must be street level (obviously)
  • Characters are first come first serve. Different versions are allowed.
  • Strength is limited to 5 tons.
  • Speed is limited to below Spider-Man/Spider-Man related characters
  • Healing Factor is limited to slightly accelerated (I'll determine)
  • Durability is tricky. I'm going to say a little over peak human. Maybe they can take an arrow and go on for a little longer, or take blunt damage better than a normal human, but if they're too resistant to conventional forms of damage they're too much
  • No Telepathy above mind reading
  • No telekinesis/magic
  • No teleporting
  • No time alteration
  • Energy Projection must be below Cyclops
  • No sonics
  • For characters such as Midnighter who have high mental processing abilities, I’ll determine if they’re eligible
  • Your characters may have certain abilities removed for the purpose of the tourney. For example, you may have bone claw wolverine, Elektra without her mind-jumping, ect.
  • Character must be killable
  • No matter manipulation
  • Characters who know eachother will have all their own knowledge on that character, along with how they feel towards them. So it wouldn't make sense to put Cap and Red Skull or Batman and Joker on the same team.
  • Team must consist of 4 members
  • In terms of prep you can't have characters who show above street level prep feats. If you are going to choose a character who is impressive with prep (cough Batman) just make sure the type of prep you're including isn't above street level.
  • Ask me any questions if you're unsure, and have fun!
  • If your character has an ability that isn't very well known please mention it to me so I can determine if it's okay for he tournament. I'm not an expert on every character. Also, if someones character is too powerful point it out to me and I'll do some research, or even better, provide scans/videos. Thanks.

How this is going to work

16 Teams. Four characters to a team. 4 rounds.

After you win a round you may select two items of gear from your opponents team for you to use in the next round.

The rounds will all have a unique setting each, and I can confirm that one round in particular will allow a decent amount of prep time. You must make a team of 4 characters. All forms of media are welcome as long as they fall into the rules. Other than that, happy debating!

Teams

@docnick - Deathstroke, Red Skull (Steve Rogers clone body), Deadshot, Bullseye

@vintage_spiderman - Daredevil, Black Panther, Toad, Nightwing (Pre-52)

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk - Hercule (DBZ), Zonge, Iron Man Falgore, Dengakuman

@floopay - Drizzt Do'Urden (Forgotten Realms), Jarlaxle D'aerthe (Forgotten Realms), Zaknafein Do'Urden (Forgotten Realms), Artemis Entreri (Forgotten Realms)

@juiceboks - Mister X, Moon Knight, Crow, Boba Fett

@sovereign91001 - Blade, Punisher 2099, Batman Beyond, Batwoman

@sync1 - Batman, Cassandra Cain, Azrael (Jean Paul), Connor Hawke GA

@cadencev2 - Ultimate Hawkeye, Roland Gilead (Dark Tower), Solid Snake, Batman (Frank Miller)

@diredrill - Hawkeye (Bullseye), Professor X (Mystique), Lockheed, Nick Fury (Alexander Aaron)

@thatguywithheadphones - Guts (Pre Berserker Armor), Sasori (Puppet Form), Morgiana, Captain America (Bucky)

@dccomicsrule2011 - Raki, Clare, Miata, Clarice.. AKA the Claymore Crew

@joewell - Red X, Robin (Teen Titans cartoon), Me Mow, Leo

@omgomgwtfwtf - Kambei, Wrath, Jin (Samurai Champloo), Silver Samurai

@veitha - Elektra (No Psi, no Chi Scream), Gambit, Shanna the She-devil, Nightwing (New 52)

@joeagentofhand1 - Amadeus Cho, Nobody, Dr Midnite, Misaka 10032

@captaindoeo - Punisher, Mysterio (No teleport), UDON Taskmaster, Mordecai (With Bloodwing)

Judges

Myself @dondave @thedarklordpandamonium @diredrill @jokergeist

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#2 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9832 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: You might want to try tagging people differently, I didn't get the message. I might enter, save me a spot

#3 Posted by nickthedevil (11893 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America, Batman, Winter Soldier and Nightwing.

#4 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7405 posts) - - Show Bio

The strength limit suggest nothing beyond peck human.

#5 Edited by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

@docnick: You're good to go. I'm about to change the ruling on strength, and rules may change as it goes, so if you need to edit your team let me know.

@mr_ingenuity: I was concerned about that. I'll change it.

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: Strange, I'll try it differently. Sure thing.

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#6 Edited by vintage_spiderman (1197 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil, Black Panther, Mr. Fantastic, and Konohamaru.

#7 Posted by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

Creeper

Taskmaster

Scarlet Spider

Venom(Flash)

#8 Edited by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: Venom and Scarlet Spider are too powerful (check the rules). Not entirely sure about Creeper but I'll let you know on that. Taskmaster is fine

Edit: Creeper is fine

@vintage_spiderman: Matter manipulation/elasticity is too complicated at times to regulate, and Mr Fantastic's type of prep isn't suitable for the Tournament so you can't have him, other than that your team sounds fine.

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#9 Posted by dondave (36124 posts) - - Show Bio

#10 Edited by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords I'll switch them for Crow from Deadman Wonderland and Wesker from RE

#11 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9832 posts) - - Show Bio
#12 Edited by vintage_spiderman (1197 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords okay how about Daredevil, Black Panther, Konohamaru, and Ayane

#13 Edited by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: Wesker is too fast and too durable. Crow seems fine, apart from the "Invisible Black" technique he uses. What kind of physical stats does he have?

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#15 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9832 posts) - - Show Bio
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@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: Just don't want some characters to be too overpowered so I'm trying to keep it close. Okay how about I set it to 5 tons?

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#17 Posted by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords What's the durability limit then? And the speed limit is now below superhuman right? Crow is fast enough to blitz the soldiers at Deadman Wonderland pretty easily(for what that's worth). He hasnt displayed much in the realm of raw strength. Durability is nothing too special either.

#18 Posted by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: I said I'd regulate the durability of characters. I'll put an appropriate setting soon. Speed isn't below superhuman it's below Spider-Man and related characters (Scarlet, Agent for example). Well if Crow is below Spider-Man in speed he's fine. How many soldiers did he blitz, and define blitz in this context.

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#19 Posted by dondave (36124 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Edited by Sovereign91001 (4192 posts) - - Show Bio

Kakashi Hatake

Punisher 2099

Black Canary (New 52)

Fantomex

#23 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9832 posts) - - Show Bio

Kakashi Hatake

Punisher 2099

Black Canary (New 52)

Fantomex

Oh you.

#24 Posted by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords Just one. It was using the Invisible Black technique granted.

#26 Edited by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9832 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: Lol, hold on. I'm going to change my team with Sovereign's entry...

#27 Posted by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: Seems like a pretty OP move for this tourney but if we were to say he couldn't use it, he should be fine. Just make sure he abides by the rules and it's cool. Who's your fourth character?

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#28 Posted by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9832 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: On second thought, I won't be in this one lol. I don't have enough characters I would be able to compete with against certain abilities lol.

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#31 Posted by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords I'll decide in a little bit. By the way about Soveriegns team. Kakashi is most certainly on Spider Man's speed level. And Fantomex has a hax ability as well.

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#33 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4192 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: Hardly... I have scans of all of Kakashi feats, his speed is Wolverine level, tops. He doesn't have a single reaction or movement speed feat that puts him on Spidey's level.

#34 Posted by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Edited by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: How about this team:

Wolverine (Gorgon)

Professor X (Mystique)

Elektra (Siri)

Wolverine (Daken)

#37 Edited by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9832 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Edited by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords Illusions potent enough to fool Professor X and Jean Grey with very little effort.

#39 Posted by vintage_spiderman (1197 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001 First off your wrong about the wolverine speed comparison thing because he's a lot faster, secondly he still has tons of abilities that make him to powerful for this tourney like: kamui, lightingblade, eight gates utilization to an extent, shadow clones, and couple hundred other techniques he hasn't even show cased yet.

#40 Posted by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

@diredrill: So is that basically those characters with the bracketed characters abilities/powers? If so sounds okay.

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#41 Edited by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001 You can't seriously be trying to pass off Kakashi as peak human at best. Even so, like someone else already said he has a whole slew of ninjutsu that make him well above street level.

#42 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4192 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: every time I use Kakashi it always comes back to the Kamui thing lol. It's no different if I picked AOA Blink and tried to telecut/dismember someone. I'd just assumed telecut was banned (as it usually is in these tourneys) and proceeded to use it in the way he's used it for 90% of his feats...defensively. If @i_like_swords rules that telecut is legal... well then everyone will pick teleporters and it's a non-issue, if he rules tele-cut is illegal (which I expect he will) it at best gives Kakashi a solid counter to projectiles and inantimate objects, still shouldn't be an issue :)

#43 Posted by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001: @juiceboks: @vintage_spiderman: If you guys could show me some scans showing that Fantomex is breaking the rules/has some OP abilities I'll consider taking him out. I'm not sure right now. Sovereign, can you tell me the extent of Fantomex's misdirection ability? Is he able to literally hypontise someone into doing whatever he wants or is he able to make them take a wrong step or throw a bad punch? If his misdirection is too much that a lot of characters have no defense to it I'd have to take him out. Same thing with Kakashi, if any of you can show me exactly where he is OP I'll consider taking him out too.

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#44 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4192 posts) - - Show Bio

First off your wrong about the wolverine speed comparison thing because he's a lot faster, secondly he still has tons of abilities that make him to powerful for this tourney like:

Show me a feat, that puts his speed at Spidey levels, just one...

kamui

Already explained it.

lighting blade

What's broken about Lightning Blade? Juiceboks just picked freaking Static Shock!

eight gates utilization to an extent

You mean the attack that kills him if he uses it and that he has no showings with?

shadow clones

A shadow clone, one... he has low chakra he's never made more than one at a time. Freaking Konohamaru can make a shadow clone and he's in the tournament.

and couple hundred other techniques he hasn't even show cased yet.

Lmao; how are you going to judge a character off of abilities he hasn't shown on pannel? Do you know what Hypebole is? That 1,000 jutsu is hyperbole.

@sovereign91001 You can't seriously be trying to pass off Kakashi as peak human at best. Even so, like someone else already said he has a whole slew of ninjutsu that make him well above street level.

Show me one.

#45 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4192 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001: @juiceboks: @vintage_spiderman: If you guys could show me some scans showing that Fantomex is breaking the rules/has some OP abilities I'll consider taking him out. I'm not sure right now. Sovereign, can you tell me the extent of Fantomex's misdirection ability? Is he able to literally hypontise someone into doing whatever he wants or is he able to make them take a wrong step or throw a bad punch? If his misdirection is too much that a lot of characters have no defense to it I'd have to take him out. Same thing with Kakashi, if any of you can show me exactly where he is OP I'll consider taking him out too.

He can create an illusion where you'd think your ally was your enemy or he wasn't there stuff like that. If he's Overpowered I'll switch him for Blade.

Kakashi on the other hand falls within the limits.

#46 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords said:

@diredrill: So is that basically those characters with the bracketed characters abilities/powers? If so sounds okay.

It is those characters when they were faking being the other characters.

#47 Edited by Nuffs (709 posts) - - Show Bio

Kenshiro

Samurai Jack

Kazuya Mishima

Shredder

#48 Posted by i_like_swords (13909 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: he uses some form of telekinesis right? I said no telekinesis in the rules so he's out too.

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#49 Posted by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords Not only did he survive a point blank wind blast that razed a good portion of the battlefield. But he came back later to block a lightning blast with no noticeable injuries.

#50 Posted by Juiceboks (8401 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords Who? Vergil? He can lift cars and other metal objects sure but that's not telekinesis. And even then he hasnt lifted anything that breaks the strength limit.