Superman wins. Superman wins even when he is attacked with kryptonite. Superman beats even omnipotent imps from the 5th dimension. It's more than just raw power with Superman. He's the man! He has strategy, he is also an inventor, a thinker a schemer and Hyperion is just outclassed!
Superman wins. Superman wins even when he is attacked with kryptonite. Superman beats even omnipotent imps from the 5th dimension. It's more than just raw power with Superman. He's the man! He has strategy, he is also an inventor, a thinker a schemer and Hyperion is just outclassed!
And still was defeated many times... Besides we're talking about new Superman.
@czarny_samael666: When i was talking about the "universal feat" in that feat we also have Hyperion probably (and i mean probably) holding two planets. We don't know what really happend in that moment, but since the author has said he will explain that moment again i am going to choose a winner when that feat is clarified. Plus holding the weight of the earth wasn't his maximum limit even if he wasn't at full power...but even with such a feat for now we really can't tell who wins this in my opinion.
I don´t know what there is to discuss about Hyperions strength....i mean it is stated on panel:"Hyperion held them apart....:" i don´t care what it looks like or if he actually touches anything it is written there. How much more obvious can a feat be?
Cheap Copy?Look i know i'm new here but isnt Superman an based on character?I mean he's the first superhero yeah but at first he wasnt flying didnt he Copy Captain Marvel on that level and the fact that Lex Luthor baldness has to give credit to Doctor Sivana at least from this reference
<<While its lawsuit against Fawcett was still pending, a few of the elements unique to the Captain Marvel strip found their way into Superman comics, including making Superman fly, Superman's arch-villain Lex Luthor a bald "mad scientist" like Captain Marvel's Dr. Sivana, and introducing the adventures of Superman as a teenager under the title Superboy, after Captain Marvel's teenaged sidekick Captain Marvel, Jr. proved to be popular......>>
@czarny_samael666: People tend to forget Hulk has a similar feat of shaking the earth with punches, and he wasn't even mad... And by far, the best striker among a bunch of people including Superman.
Cheap Copy?Look i know i'm new here but isnt Superman an based on character?I mean he's the first superhero yeah but at first he wasnt flying didnt he Copy Captain Marvel on that level and the fact that Lex Luthor baldness has to give credit to Doctor Sivana at least from this reference
<<While its lawsuit against Fawcett was still pending, a few of the elements unique to the Captain Marvel strip found their way into Superman comics, including making Superman fly, Superman's arch-villain Lex Luthor a bald "mad scientist" like Captain Marvel's Dr. Sivana, and introducing the adventures of Superman as a teenager under the title Superboy, after Captain Marvel's teenaged sidekick Captain Marvel, Jr. proved to be popular......>>
@nighthunder: Just to let you know regarding that one scan. That was basically directly after his infamous New 52 lifting weight, which drained him of solar energy and he even states as he flies up to recharge that he doesn't have time to replenish all his energy that he lost during those past several days:
Technically superman should win here because he is the only one who has battle feats of any repute. He's shown to be faster and a stronger striker than Hyperion. And let's not kid ourselves guys Hyperion is a superman amalgam. That's a fact
Technically superman should win here because he is the only one who has battle feats of any repute. He's shown to be faster and a stronger striker than Hyperion. And let's not kid ourselves guys Hyperion is a superman amalgam. That's a fact
@sog7dc: This much is true. But in all fairness to Hyperion, he hasn't been given too much time to shine in comparison to Supes. IMO all the really cool badass feats of lately have been given to Thor, and maybe it's unfair seeing as Thor has his own monthly title. Besides the events that happened down in the Savage Land, I'm still waiting for Hyperion to REALLY cut loose and see what he can do. I still think Superman wins this fight too, but mainly cause of more feats....imho
@sog7dc: This much is true. But in all fairness to Hyperion, he hasn't been given too much time to shine in comparison to Supes. IMO all the really cool badass feats of lately have been given to Thor, and maybe it's unfair seeing as Thor has his own monthly title. Besides the events that happened down in the Savage Land, I'm still waiting for Hyperion to REALLY cut loose and see what he can do. I still think Superman wins this fight too, but mainly cause of more feats....imho
Hickman seems to indicate we are going to see a lot of Hyperion in the future, so we might have a much better picture in a year from now what Hyperion is capable of.
@green_skaar: Really? I hope so! I was really hoping his fight with Hulk was going to be this knockdown drag-out slugfest and maybe show him as being the new dominant superpower on the Avengers squad, but it kinda ended up being just ...."meh"...for me. The two issues he did get to shine Avengers #4 and #15-#16 gave us some more, but not too much in the action dept. And Starbrand was crushing everyone including him, so not much to go by there either. I'd like to see maybe a story arc that either focuses more on him or at least involves him somemore personally. But thats prolly hard seeing as there's like 20 Avenger members!
@nighthunder: Just to let you know regarding that one scan. That was basically directly after his infamous New 52 lifting weight, which drained him of solar energy and he even states as he flies up to recharge that he doesn't have time to replenish all his energy that he lost during those past several days:
Alright then , but still , with that hit he was still gathering momentum by flying so it was still hitting much harder than it would normally. But yes , he was still depleted so im guessing fully powered his normal hits would have the force of a large mountain?
Alright then , but still , with that hit he was still gathering momentum by flying so it was still hitting much harder than it would normally. But yes , he was still depleted so im guessing fully powered his normal hits would have the force of a large mountain?
Honestly? It's been rather inconsistent among titles, even in Lobdell's own title which these feats occurred. Considering the beast he fought was of Kryptonian origin, it might give reason to explain why it withstood an attack from Clark so easily. On the other end, the blows he landed on H'el at the end of the arc were powerful enough to shake the entire Earth and give off shockwaves felt from the very centre to the outer parts of our atmosphere where the JL Watchtower sits.
@bigcimmerian: I'm not arguing that Hyperion wins (I actually think this may be a stomp with the whole Universe feat and everything), but that Aquaman scan is somewhat out of context. Superman is trying to reason with a friend. If you were talking to your friend I doubt you'd really be that on guard.
@czarny_samael666: I'm talking about new Supes too. He wins. Again, Hyperion is outclassed.
He isn't. New Superman has planet level feat, Hyperion has something twice as good. And he one-shotted Terminus, who should be putted above Thor. I have also seen High Evo taking out Thor in one blast, when Thor wasn't ready to response, it didn't KO Hyperion in similar situation.
Technically superman should win here because he is the only one who has battle feats of any repute. He's shown to be faster and a stronger striker than Hyperion. And let's not kid ourselves guys Hyperion is a superman amalgam. That's a fact
Something better than taking HE's blast and ripping his arm from him or taking out Terminus with one attack? Speed could be an issue, but not in character.
@czarny_samael666: When i was talking about the "universal feat" in that feat we also have Hyperion probably (and i mean probably) holding two planets. We don't know what really happend in that moment, but since the author has said he will explain that moment again i am going to choose a winner when that feat is clarified. Plus holding the weight of the earth wasn't his maximum limit even if he wasn't at full power...but even with such a feat for now we really can't tell who wins this in my opinion.
Not probably - he was doing it and they broke. Force that pushing them was powerfull enough to rush them. Yet, it wasn't greater than Hyperion's strength.
And it was already clarified. Not too mention, that it is not working in this way. It stands until someone would try to retcon this, not unless someone would confirm it.
Not probably - he was doing it and they broke. Force that pushing them was powerfull enough to rush them. Yet, it wasn't greater than Hyperion's strength.
And it was already clarified. Not too mention, that it is not working in this way. It stands until someone would try to retcon this, not unless someone would confirm it.
i have simply told that the author will talk again about that particular event as he has told, so things might actually change. Then i don't recall this feat being already clarified, anywhere.
And? Hyperion is just as massive as Superman but has shown far greater power by stopping two planets until they broke from the pressures of two colliding universes which means Hyperion definitely faster.
Yes, he stopped the two planets until they broke apart. But how fast did that happen? The pressure from two colliding universes would seemingly be enough to break theses planets rather quickly. At least that makes sense to me. Also when superman held the earths weight he did for almost a week with no sleep or rest, his strength didn't give out. At the end he was barely sweating and asked if that was all. Though I do like that Hyperion is getting attention by Marvel, as long as they do it right which i'm skeptical.
And? Hyperion is just as massive as Superman but has shown far greater power by stopping two planets until they broke from the pressures of two colliding universes which means Hyperion definitely faster.
wha? show me an on panel feat that proves hyperion is faster than superman in combat or travel speed....ill save you the time because you cant do that. because hyperion isn't fast as or faster than superman. and you lost cred with me when you stated that hulk has unlimited strength
Superman wins. Superman wins even when he is attacked with kryptonite. Superman beats even omnipotent imps from the 5th dimension. It's more than just raw power with Superman. He's the man! He has strategy, he is also an inventor, a thinker a schemer and Hyperion is just outclassed!
great i will need to see nu 52 scans of all of those please!
@kidman560: I don't have the time lol... just check out Morrison's run in the New52 Action Comics for many wonderful Superman feats where he basically evolved with power, where he was basically young, inexperienced and not fully powered and still saved the world, faced Brainiac, Metallo, Captain Comet, super villains hidden in his brain, an army of thousands of angels, a 5th dimension imp, and many other threats. The bottom line is that you want to compare the GREATEST SUPERHERO in fiction with one of his poor Marvel imitations. Everything I mentioned was seen JUST in Morrison's AC. I still haven't mentioned all the things he had done in the pages of Superman, Supergirl, JL, and many other guest appearances in other books. I don't even need to refer to anything pre New52.
@kidman560: I don't have the time lol... just check out Morrison's run in the New52 Action Comics for many wonderful Superman feats where he basically evolved with power, where he was basically young, inexperienced and not fully powered and still saved the world, faced Brainiac, Metallo, Captain Comet, super villains hidden in his brain, an army of thousands of angels, a 5th dimension imp, and many other threats. The bottom line is that you want to compare the GREATEST SUPERHERO in fiction with one of his poor Marvel imitations. Everything I mentioned was seen JUST in Morrison's AC. I still haven't mentioned all the things he had done in the pages of Superman, Supergirl, JL, and many other guest appearances in other books. I don't even need to refer to anything pre New52.
Are you trying to prove that Superman is stronger than Hyperion, or that he's a better character? I notice you like to mention things that are irrelevant to the battle forums like who's the better character, and that just makes you look foolish. And stop saying Superman is the greatest hero like it's an objective fact.
@kidman560: I don't have the time lol... just check out Morrison's run in the New52 Action Comics for many wonderful Superman feats where he basically evolved with power, where he was basically young, inexperienced and not fully powered and still saved the world, faced Brainiac, Metallo, Captain Comet, super villains hidden in his brain, an army of thousands of angels, a 5th dimension imp, and many other threats. The bottom line is that you want to compare the GREATEST SUPERHERO in fiction with one of his poor Marvel imitations. Everything I mentioned was seen JUST in Morrison's AC. I still haven't mentioned all the things he had done in the pages of Superman, Supergirl, JL, and many other guest appearances in other books. I don't even need to refer to anything pre New52.
Are you trying to prove that Superman is stronger than Hyperion, or that he's a better character. I notice you like to mention things that are irrelevant to the battle forums like who's the better character, and just makes you look foolish. And stop saying Superman is the greatest hero like it's an objective fact.
@sog7dc: If you would be reading the Avengers title you would know Hyperion was able to move faster than Thor's lightning could even hit it's target. Hulk does in a way have unlimited strength he's physically the strongest superhero.
@kidman560: I don't have the time lol... just check out Morrison's run in the New52 Action Comics for many wonderful Superman feats where he basically evolved with power, where he was basically young, inexperienced and not fully powered and still saved the world, faced Brainiac, Metallo, Captain Comet, super villains hidden in his brain, an army of thousands of angels, a 5th dimension imp, and many other threats. The bottom line is that you want to compare the GREATEST SUPERHERO in fiction with one of his poor Marvel imitations. Everything I mentioned was seen JUST in Morrison's AC. I still haven't mentioned all the things he had done in the pages of Superman, Supergirl, JL, and many other guest appearances in other books. I don't even need to refer to anything pre New52.
Are you trying to prove that Superman is stronger than Hyperion, or that he's a better character. I notice you like to mention things that are irrelevant to the battle forums like who's the better character, and just makes you look foolish. And stop saying Superman is the greatest hero like it's an objective fact.
He is kind of the greatest Superhero. His S symbol is the most recognizable symbol in the world after the Christian Cross, He's the 2nd most successful franchise/ character after Mickey Mouse , He's one of the most popular super hero/fictional character for 75 years and and he's the most well known Superhero and regarded as the best one meaning he's the picture perfect hero in the DCU all the characters regard him as the greatest hero. No one else has ever come up to his standard and no one ever will. Sorry for this sort of rant :/
@sog7dc: If you would be reading the Avengers title you would know Hyperion was able to move faster than Thor's lightning could even hit it's target. Hulk does in a way have unlimited strength he's physically the strongest superhero.
@kidman560: I don't have the time lol... just check out Morrison's run in the New52 Action Comics for many wonderful Superman feats where he basically evolved with power, where he was basically young, inexperienced and not fully powered and still saved the world, faced Brainiac, Metallo, Captain Comet, super villains hidden in his brain, an army of thousands of angels, a 5th dimension imp, and many other threats. The bottom line is that you want to compare the GREATEST SUPERHERO in fiction with one of his poor Marvel imitations. Everything I mentioned was seen JUST in Morrison's AC. I still haven't mentioned all the things he had done in the pages of Superman, Supergirl, JL, and many other guest appearances in other books. I don't even need to refer to anything pre New52.
Are you trying to prove that Superman is stronger than Hyperion, or that he's a better character. I notice you like to mention things that are irrelevant to the battle forums like who's the better character, and just makes you look foolish. And stop saying Superman is the greatest hero like it's an objective fact.
He is kind of the greatest Superhero. His S symbol is the most recognizable symbol in the world after the Christian Cross, He's the 2nd most successful franchise/ character after Mickey Mouse , He's one of the most popular super hero/fictional character for 75 years and and he's the most well known Superhero and regarded as the best one meaning he's the picture perfect hero in the DCU all the characters regard him as the greatest hero. No one else has ever come up to his standard and no one ever will. Sorry for this sort of rant :/
Oh no, I think Supes is a great hero, but I just dislike this guy saying that Superman wins because he's the better hero. That's not how we should do things here on the battle forums.
@kidman560: @wolverine08: Superman has been the top super hero in the world for 75 years not one hero you 2 mentioned outside of comic readers does anyone give a crap about.
@kidman560: @wolverine08: Superman has been the top super hero in the world for 75 years not one hero you 2 mentioned outside of comic readers does anyone give a crap about.
Dude, whether or not Superman is the world's greatest hero is completely irrelevant to this battle. May we drop the topic?
He is kind of the greatest Superhero. His S symbol is the most recognizable symbol in the world after the Christian Cross, He's the 2nd most successful franchise/ character after Mickey Mouse , He's one of the most popular super hero/fictional character for 75 years and and he's the most well known Superhero and regarded as the best one meaning he's the picture perfect hero in the DCU all the characters regard him as the greatest hero. No one else has ever come up to his standard and no one ever will. Sorry for this sort of rant :/
He is kind of the greatest Superhero. His S symbol is the most recognizable symbol in the world after the Christian Cross, He's the 2nd most successful franchise/ character after Mickey Mouse , He's one of the most popular super hero/fictional character for 75 years and and he's the most well known Superhero and regarded as the best one meaning he's the picture perfect hero in the DCU all the characters regard him as the greatest hero. No one else has ever come up to his standard and no one ever will. Sorry for this sort of rant :/
Well said
Those that have anything to do with the battle? Why do you have a habit of bringing up things that are irrelevant to battles?
He is kind of the greatest Superhero. His S symbol is the most recognizable symbol in the world after the Christian Cross, He's the 2nd most successful franchise/ character after Mickey Mouse , He's one of the most popular super hero/fictional character for 75 years and and he's the most well known Superhero and regarded as the best one meaning he's the picture perfect hero in the DCU all the characters regard him as the greatest hero. No one else has ever come up to his standard and no one ever will. Sorry for this sort of rant :/
Well said
Those that have anything to do with the battle? Why do you have a habit of bringing up things that are irrelevant to battles?
wrong question! the right question is what does this have to do with Hyperion kicking his butt?
Just like Superman against all those other knockoffs in Marvel U. None of them have done anything to put themselves in New 52 uperman's class. They are either jobbers(Gladiator) or below him in power(i.e. Sentry) or they lack feats(i.e. Hyperion)
Oh yeah, and Hyperion didn't stop 2 planets. If anyone wants to support Supes for the argument, just show the Hyperion scan. He isn't holding jack.
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