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#1 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Over a volcano, both bloodlusted.

2.Morals on, (not bloodlusted)

#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam stomps.

#3 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh really, My encyclopedia states that Hyperion has almost boundless/limitless speed and strength. And more..

I think he loses in a good match.

#4 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio
Black Adam for the win...
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#5 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Black Adam have FTL reaction feats?

#6 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

- FTL?

#7 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

- FTL?

Oh yeah, faster than light, sorry! Not that I no of.

#8 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, according to most people on this forum, Flash is unbeatable because his speed feat is better than every other characters'. Using this logic, Hyperion wins because he has on panel nano second combat feats.

#9 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

Thank u for understanding, are y=u the only one who understands the superiority in Hyperions speed.

#10 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

Hyperion for the win!

#11 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

#12 Posted by dondave (34674 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam ftw

#13 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless this is King Hyperion I see Adam winning a large majority.

#14 Posted by BlueHope (360 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam

#15 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

According to you, speed trumps everything. Hyperion has nano second reaction feats and he's physically matched Gladiator for a period of time, who in turn has planet busting feats of strength.

#16 Posted by NeonGameWave (7704 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam both rounds.

#17 Posted by Bo88gdan (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

Hyperion Ftw

#18 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

According to you, speed trumps everything. Hyperion has nano second reaction feats and he's physically matched Gladiator for a period of time, who in turn has planet busting feats of strength.

I never said speed trumps everything...

#19 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Black Adam ftw

#20 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam wins this

#21 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

@spawn_123 said:

Black Adam wins this

#22 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio
@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@spawn_123 said:

Black Adam wins this

No. Out of morals Hyperion stomps. In morals he wins, when he understands that Adam can match his strength. But BA was never tested by Superman's HV and Hyperion's was proved to be equal to Gladiator's which is as hot as core of sun. Plus Black Adam never shown planet level strength - Hyperion did in his fight with Gladiator:
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 1
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 2
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 3
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 4
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 5
"Planet pulovering force", nanosecond reaction speed, powerfull atomic vision... Black Adam is fighting with Superman pretty much. And he loses the fight.
#23 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@spawn_123 said:

Black Adam wins this

No. Out of morals Hyperion stomps. In morals he wins, when he understands that Adam can match his strength. But BA was never tested by Superman's HV and Hyperion's was proved to be equal to Gladiator's which is as hot as core of sun. Plus Black Adam never shown planet level strength - Hyperion did in his fight with Gladiator:
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 1
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 2
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 3
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 4
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 5
"Planet pulovering force", nanosecond reaction speed, powerfull atomic vision... Black Adam is fighting with Superman pretty much. And he loses the fight.

Okay than Hyperion wins.

#24 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@spawn_123 said:

Black Adam wins this

No. Out of morals Hyperion stomps. In morals he wins, when he understands that Adam can match his strength. But BA was never tested by Superman's HV and Hyperion's was proved to be equal to Gladiator's which is as hot as core of sun. Plus Black Adam never shown planet level strength - Hyperion did in his fight with Gladiator:
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 1
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 2
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 3
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 4
Gladiator vs. Hyperion part 5
"Planet pulovering force", nanosecond reaction speed, powerfull atomic vision... Black Adam is fighting with Superman pretty much. And he loses the fight.

Sorry can you tell me on what level confidence Gladiator was ?

#25 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio
@spawn_123
He laways its at full, until something suprises him. Cannonball suprised him with ability to absorb his punches, Hulk suprised him, because he thought that Hulk is just a brute, FF suprised him, because They shown Reed hologram in place where Cap were standind with his unbreakable shield. Nothing like that was shown here.
#26 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam.

#27 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Hyperion easy. Proven to be faster and equally strong if not stronger.

Speed Blitz FTW round 1. Good fight either way round 2.

#28 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@spawn_123: He laways its at full, until something suprises him. Cannonball suprised him with ability to absorb his punches, Hulk suprised him, because he thought that Hulk is just a brute, FF suprised him, because They shown Reed hologram in place where Cap were standind with his unbreakable shield. Nothing like that was shown here.

Gladiator did not lose confidence against the Hulk.

#29 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW: Which Hulk was it? Savage Hulk has taken on Thor, Silver Surfer, High Evoloutionary, Doom, Galaxy Master, and the entire West Coast and East Coast Avengers roster.

So which hulk did Glads fight?

#30 Posted by Needlebay (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam.

#31 Posted by fury714 (589 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam.

#32 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio
@logy5000: @Needlebay: @fury714
 
Again the same: group of people who decides to ignore debate, feats and arguments. Seriously, people, if You have seen in the same page in which You're posting, clear scans that gives win to one character, then at least try to answer it before You will show Your final judgment. One-two word answers don't give us anything, when real debate already started.
 
@CadenceV2 said:

@ToO_RaW: Which Hulk was it? Savage Hulk has taken on Thor, Silver Surfer, High Evoloutionary, Doom, Galaxy Master, and the entire West Coast and East Coast Avengers roster.

So which hulk did Glads fight?


Banner-less/mindless Hulk. One who was in time changed into War Hulk (but this wasn't War Hulk). As all Mindless Hulks, he was much stronger than normal Hulk, but he also get tired pretty quickly, since Hulk can't live without Banner. 
And it is possible that I have misinterpret Glad's fight ealier.
#33 Posted by Chronus (1115 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW said:

Well, according to most people on this forum, Flash is unbeatable because his speed feat is better than every other characters'. Using this logic, Hyperion wins because he has on panel nano second combat feats.

You obviously ignored IMP and Speed Steal...

#34 Posted by monarch_prime (377 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam wins.

#35 Edited by karrob (4278 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

According to you, speed trumps everything. Hyperion has nano second reaction feats and he's physically matched Gladiator for a period of time, who in turn has planet busting feats of strength.

Gladiator wouldnt beat Black Adam

#36 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@karrob said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

According to you, speed trumps everything. Hyperion has nano second reaction feats and he's physically matched Gladiator for a period of time, who in turn has planet busting feats of strength.

Gladiator wouldnt beat Black Adam

Gladiator would crush Black Adam feat wise. Please show me Black Adam's nano second reaction timing. Please show me Black Adam shattering planets with his fists and flying through 100 million mile wide stars.

#37 Posted by Needlebay (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator might be faster, but I think Adam is more durable. He did take blows from Onimar Synn, afterall. The Marvel family are generally more durable than most bricks, because of magic. Hell, Billy survived being turned inside out.

#38 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: Cool I will have to find that one.

#39 Posted by karrob (4278 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW said:

@karrob said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

According to you, speed trumps everything. Hyperion has nano second reaction feats and he's physically matched Gladiator for a period of time, who in turn has planet busting feats of strength.

Gladiator wouldnt beat Black Adam

Gladiator would crush Black Adam feat wise. Please show me Black Adam's nano second reaction timing. Please show me Black Adam shattering planets with his fists and flying through 100 million mile wide stars.

No. Do you have scans of Gladiator's nano second reaction time?

@Needlebay said:

Gladiator might be faster, but I think Adam is more durable. He did take blows from Onimar Synn, afterall. The Marvel family are generally more durable than most bricks, because of magic. Hell, Billy survived being turned inside out.

Agreed!

#40 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

This is king Hyperion, and also, the encyclopedia states he has almost boundless speed and strength, and other powers, in a physical match, Hype wins

#41 Posted by Needlebay (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't he fail to stop an asteroid or something. Bios are one thing, but feats are another. Black Adam fought of the JSA all by himself. A pretty uber team as well.

#42 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@karrob said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@karrob said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

According to you, speed trumps everything. Hyperion has nano second reaction feats and he's physically matched Gladiator for a period of time, who in turn has planet busting feats of strength.

Gladiator wouldnt beat Black Adam

Gladiator would crush Black Adam feat wise. Please show me Black Adam's nano second reaction timing. Please show me Black Adam shattering planets with his fists and flying through 100 million mile wide stars.

No. Do you have scans of Gladiator's nano second reaction time?

The scans are on this page.

#43 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio
@karrob said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@karrob said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

According to you, speed trumps everything. Hyperion has nano second reaction feats and he's physically matched Gladiator for a period of time, who in turn has planet busting feats of strength.

Gladiator wouldnt beat Black Adam

Gladiator would crush Black Adam feat wise. Please show me Black Adam's nano second reaction timing. Please show me Black Adam shattering planets with his fists and flying through 100 million mile wide stars.

No. Do you have scans of Gladiator's nano second reaction time?

@Needlebay said:

Gladiator might be faster, but I think Adam is more durable. He did take blows from Onimar Synn, afterall. The Marvel family are generally more durable than most bricks, because of magic. Hell, Billy survived being turned inside out.

Agreed!

I have already posted them. Black Adam maybe hard to take, but Gladiator isn't weak one too. He fought evenly with Thor, won with his own equal (Hyperion) thanks to fighting skills, took down (weakned) Binary, stomped Wonder Man and survived in heart of star. Plus few ohers, but these would be durability to energy projection, not brute strength. 
 
@CadenceV2 said:

@czarny_samael666: Cool I will have to find that one.


You don't ;-) :
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 1
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 2
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 3
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 4
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 5
#44 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: Awsome. Thanks alot for the scans.... who is Blue Marvel? Why did King Hyperion lose to him?

#45 Posted by Ddecourt (796 posts) - - Show Bio

BA.

#46 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio
@CadenceV2 said:

@czarny_samael666: Awsome. Thanks alot for the scans.... who is Blue Marvel? Why did King Hyperion lose to him?

Look for Adam: The Legend of Blue Marvel. 
This is the only other story in which he appeared. He fought with sentry there and they were pretty even (that is why he is saying that not even Sentry hit him so hard).
#47 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@CadenceV2 said:

@czarny_samael666: Awsome. Thanks alot for the scans.... who is Blue Marvel? Why did King Hyperion lose to him?

Look for Adam: The Legend of Blue Marvel. This is the only other story in which he appeared. He fought with sentry there and they were pretty even (that is why he is saying that not even Sentry hit him so hard).

Blue Marvel is bad ass, that's why.

#48 Posted by Needlebay (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@karrob said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@karrob said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

What has Hyperion done that puts him on Black Adam's level?

I don't even like Black Adam and he takes this with ease.

According to you, speed trumps everything. Hyperion has nano second reaction feats and he's physically matched Gladiator for a period of time, who in turn has planet busting feats of strength.

Gladiator wouldnt beat Black Adam

Gladiator would crush Black Adam feat wise. Please show me Black Adam's nano second reaction timing. Please show me Black Adam shattering planets with his fists and flying through 100 million mile wide stars.

No. Do you have scans of Gladiator's nano second reaction time?

@Needlebay said:

Gladiator might be faster, but I think Adam is more durable. He did take blows from Onimar Synn, afterall. The Marvel family are generally more durable than most bricks, because of magic. Hell, Billy survived being turned inside out.

Agreed!

I have already posted them. Black Adam maybe hard to take, but Gladiator isn't weak one too. He fought evenly with Thor, won with his own equal (Hyperion) thanks to fighting skills, took down (weakned) Binary, stomped Wonder Man and survived in heart of star. Plus few ohers, but these would be durability to energy projection, not brute strength.

@CadenceV2 said:

@czarny_samael666: Cool I will have to find that one.


You don't ;-) :
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 1
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 2
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 3
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 4
BM vs. King Hyperion (1 & 2) part 5

I don't see anything here that Adam hasn't already faced.

#49 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio
@Needlebay
To give You quick answer since I don't have time right now:
1.Hyperion didn't fall to push asteroid by his muscles. He never tried that, he used his HV. He didn't really care what will happen. Yet, he survived its impact with Earth. IDK why he didn't want to touch it. Possibly, because he thought that Magneto has done something with it.
2.King Hyperion's best feats for me: recovering in seconds from broken neck and fight with two Hyperions and winning this fight until he was hurt by Blink. Yet, I wouldn't put his durability above Hyperion-712. But his Healling Factor seems to overcome this problem, since Hyperions(and Mimic helping them) couldn't put him down.  
His best durability feat is actually to physical damage, what is a bad news for Black Adam. Mimic mimiced Northstar's power and copiedo half of his full power. In this case he changed his body into metal and fly on KH with 1/2 of speed of light. KH was puttted on his knees, but he wasn't KOd.
3.Hyperion showed fast travel speed, but I don't recall his reaction speed feats to be above BA's. 
4.Yesterday, I've read all comics in which he appeared. I am not convinced that either have greater strength than the other. They are both based on fights, not lifting feats. IMO key will be KH's HV.
#50 Posted by Needlebay (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, I thought we were using current Hyperion, not King. Adam can certainly go toe to toe with any of them, but I might give the small edge to King. Adam went toe to toe against the JSA and took a beating from someone who is more powerful than Hyperion.