@apocalypse3: Hyperion breaks Diana's arm.She's hopelessly outmatched in strength compared to Hyperion
Hyperion runs the Arm Wrestling Guantlet
@theking47: you're correct, I somehow mistakenly used the velocity rather than acceleration (m/s^2). Considering there's no time given to indicate when the planet began it's course towards earth, I think it would be impossible to calculate the acceleration. Thanks.
Stops at MMH.
Jmarshmallow
Agreed.
@reaverlation: even the laughing stock of the JLA, anyway stops at 2
No way any version of WW is close to Hyperion in terms of strength.
Here Hyperion stops a planet larger than Earth moving at 500,000 mph, Pre 52 WW, Superman and MMH combined were barely able to move a stationary Earth.
Hyperion snaps her in half.
@reaverlation: I know agreed
6.
1. Aquaman = Wins
2. Wonder Woman = Could go either way
3. Hercules (Pre-Human Herc) = Wins
4. Thor = Wins
5. Sentry (No Death Seed) = Loses
6. Martian Manhunter = could go either way
7. Superman = Loses
8. Hulk = Depends on how mad hulk is but Hyperion would usually win
9. Mangog = Mangog
1. Aquaman = Wins
2. Wonder Woman = Could go either way
3. Hercules (Pre-Human Herc) = Wins
4. Thor = Wins
5. Sentry (No Death Seed) = Loses
6. Martian Manhunter = could go either way
7. Superman = Loses
8. Hulk = Depends on how mad hulk is but Hyperion would usually win
9. Mangog = Mangog
How the hell are Diana and J'onn could go either way?Diana isn't near J'onn's league in strength or Hyperion's.Hyperion breaks her in half
@reaverlation: The only hero that seems stronger than her right now on earth is Superman. And even then it's not for certain since they never fought when they were both going all out with their normal powers (don't really count Superdoom because I believe he was amped)
@captainmarvelthunder: Both J'onn and Superman are more or less equal in strength and Diana hasn't shown anything that would suggest she's near their league strength wise.Hyperion is actually in Clark's and J'onn's league strength wise so he breaks her in half
@captainmarvelthunder: Both J'onn and Superman are more or less equal in strength and Diana hasn't shown anything that would suggest she's near their league strength wise.Hyperion is actually in Clark's and J'onn's league strength wise so he breaks her in half
What has MM done that makes his strength look better than or even equal to WW or Superman? WW hardly ever removes her bracelets so we don't know if she is about on par with Superman's true strength or not. I don't believe MM is as strong as Superman. MM is more versatile and despite that Helspont said Superman was the most powerful on earth making me believe that he is a good bit stronger than MM.
MMH and Superman pushed a ship that was much bigger than Earth, Diana's got no feats to compare to that.
Hyperion snaps her like a twig.
@captainmarvelthunder: Since his recent feat with Superman where they both push Brainiac's ship while is heading towards Earth at 36,000 MPH and the size of the ship was so huge,it dwarfed the Earth to such a degree that it made Earth look like a small moon.That feat puts him as Superman's equal in strength more or less.I don't care about what Diana can do via potential or crap revolving around her bracelets when she hasn't shown to be above Aquaman in strength and he isn't in Clark's league either.I don't care about J'onn's versatility either as this is an arm wrestling contest which revolves around physical strength,something Diana hopelessly is outclassed in by Hyperion,Superman and Martian Manhunter and would get snapped in half by either of them
@reaverlation: Don't think you understood why I brought up MM versatility; You see one may think him to be more powerful than Superman because he can do everything Superman can do and more, yet despite this Helspont says Superman is more powerful, that to me would mean that Superman would have to be better at the things they have in common (speed, strength, and durability) in order to be more powerful. It was brought up to support Superman having an edge on MM in terms of strength.
WW wears the bracelets to make herself weaker its not hard for her to remove them or like she needs to be in some state of mind like when GLs get really powerful, that is her actual power.
What makes you think WW isn't on par with any of them? There is no real reason to believe that Wonder Woman if she could survive in space could push (or help Superman push) the ship anyway.
Don't believe Aquaman is in Superman's strength level but I don't think he's in WW either.
@captainmarvelthunder: All of what you said doesn't matter until you actually show a strength feat near J'onn,Clark or Hyperion's level.
@captainmarvelthunder Diana doesn't have any strength fetas that puts her above Aquaman.
@reaverlation: @reaverlation: It works both ways as MM has not done anything to make himself look like he is superior to WW in strength either.
Similar Strength feats between WW and Superman/MM
Both smashing Hal Jordan's constructs (Hal Jordan was a rookie when Superman did it, when WW did it he had around 5 years experience).
WW one shots a kryptonite poisoned Superman while MM was unable to do that when he was fighting Superman moments earlier.
Other than that I mean everyone considers them the strongest and she has not been really overpowered by anyone that was weaker in strength than Superman or Martain Manhunter to my knowledge so like I said it works both ways I have no reason to really think that she is not on par with MM.
@dondave: Did Aquaman shatter a 5 year experienced Hal Jordan that was completely serious and concentrating on holding him ever?
It works both ways as MM has not done anything to make himself look like he is superior to WW in strength either
He has. Helping push away Brainiac's Mothership is above anything Wonder Woman has ever done.
WW one shots a kryptonite poisoned Superman while MM was unable to do that when he was fighting Superman moments earlier.
Scan? All I recall her doing is tying him up and flying into orbit.
It works both ways as MM has not done anything to make himself look like he is superior to WW in strength either
He has. Helping push away Brainiac's Mothership is above anything Wonder Woman has ever done.
WW one shots a kryptonite poisoned Superman while MM was unable to do that when he was fighting Superman moments earlier.
Scan? All I recall her doing is tying him up and flying into orbit.
Superman goes crazy and attacks Batman then WW hits him here and takes him out of the fight
It works both ways as MM has not done anything to make himself look like he is superior to WW in strength either
He has. Helping push away Brainiac's Mothership is above anything Wonder Woman has ever done.
WW one shots a kryptonite poisoned Superman while MM was unable to do that when he was fighting Superman moments earlier.
Scan? All I recall her doing is tying him up and flying into orbit.
Superman goes crazy and attacks Batman then WW hits him here and takes him out of the fight
I wouldn't really use that considering as you said yourself, Supes was poisoned by a shard of kryptonite in his brain so he was weakened. Also, this does not correlate with strength but striking power.
It works both ways as MM has not done anything to make himself look like he is superior to WW in strength either
He has. Helping push away Brainiac's Mothership is above anything Wonder Woman has ever done.
WW one shots a kryptonite poisoned Superman while MM was unable to do that when he was fighting Superman moments earlier.
Scan? All I recall her doing is tying him up and flying into orbit.
Superman goes crazy and attacks Batman then WW hits him here and takes him out of the fight
I wouldn't really use that considering as you said yourself, Supes was poisoned by a shard of kryptonite in his brain so he was weakened. Also, this does not correlate with strength but striking power.
New 52 characters do not have that many feats yet so I can only use what has happened. While it is far from concrete she did beat him easily while MM was unable to moments earlier (while he was also suffering from the kryptonite).
@amazingcurbstompman: how are hulk and Superman going to tire? In fact what has he done (aside from the planet feat which they can both beat) to put him as their equal in strength?
@thedailybagel: cuz hyperion is bald. this gives him an edge.
GET IT? LMFAO
New 52 characters do not have that many feats yet so I can only use what has happened. While it is far from concrete she did beat him easily while MM was unable to moments earlier (while he was also suffering from the kryptonite).
If you agree she doesn't have the feat of strength why would you imply she is has comparable strength to the likes of Superman, MM, and Hyperion when these three guys have planetary level feats of strength.
As I've already pointed out, knocking down a severely weakened Superman does not put her anywhere near his strength class. Besides, that's a striking and not strength feat.
Also, MM never really engaged Supes in combat like you suggest, he simply attempted to restrain and examine Supes because he had lost control of his powers, killing Dr. Light. The effects of the Krypotnite weren't prevalent either and Superman didn't even feel it's effects considering he had just fought Shazam.
He had a green tone to his skin when he fought Diana as opposed to MM. This alone proves this.
Don't see why Diana keeps being suggested that she's near J'onn,Clark and Hyperions's league in strength.She isn't even stronger than Aquaman and Arthur isn't in their league either.Diana gets her arm snapped off against Hyperion
Don't see why Diana keeps being suggested that she's near J'onn,Clark and Hyperions's league in strength.She isn't even stronger than Aquaman and Arthur isn't in their league either.Diana gets her arm snapped off against Hyperion
Why do you think Aquaman is stronger than her?
@captainmarvelthunder: because he has the feats that prove it.
@thedailybagel: What feats "prove" he is stronger?
@captainmarvelthunder: I don't know lifting a cruise ship with one hand whilst barely exerting himself. Point is that she doesn't have the feats to put herself in his league, let alone supermans or hyperions.
@captainmarvelthunder: I don't know lifting a cruise ship with one whilst barely exerting himself. Point is that she doesn't have the feats to put herself in his league, let alone supermans or hyperions.
And throwing a ship as well
@reaverlation: that too.
@captainmarvelthunder: I don't know lifting a cruise ship with one whilst barely exerting himself. Point is that she doesn't have the feats to put herself in his league, let alone supermans or hyperions.
And throwing a ship as well
Throwing a ship does not "prove" he is stronger than her at all.
Why would that be more impressive than breaking Hal Jordan's constructs (while she was holding back tremendously)?
@captainmarvelthunder: I don't know if you realize it yet but this is an arm wrestling contest.All you're naming are weak striking feats for Diana in which have no relevance here in a contest of strength.You don't kick people in arm wrestling or punch in a lifting contest.You have yet to name one strength feat that puts her above Aquaman or near Hyperion
A slight correction to my post in post 13. In calculating the strength feat of Hyperion, I used Velocity rather than acceleration, which threw everything off. (Besides I used the wrong formula lol)
Earth's mass: 5.9736×10^24 kg
500,000 mph to m/s: 223520
First we find the Kinetic energy using K=1/2 x Mass x Velocity^2
Calculating the kinetic energy behind the planet would give us:1.4922408348672×10^35 Joules (149 Decillion Joules)
Then dividing this by the presumed distance used to stop the planet....
Now we know the time between Thor striking the planet after Hyperion caught it was only but a few seconds (around 5 seconds). Considering the speed of the planet, it would cover 694.4 miles in that time span. We convert this to meters: 1117500 and divide it by the Joules to get the Newtons
Newtons:1.33533855469100671140939597315 × 10^29 (133 Octillion Newtons)
Converting to tons: 1.501×10^25 Tons (15 Septillion Tons)
Equivalent to carrying 2279 Earths
@captainmarvelthunder: I don't know if you realize it yet but this is an arm wrestling contest.All you're naming are weak striking feats for Diana in which have no relevance here in a contest of strength.You don't kick people in arm wrestling or punch in a lifting contest.You have yet to name one strength feat that puts her above Aquaman or near Hyperion
You also need strength behind your punches and hits in order to make them devastating. Has she really been struggling to lift anything in the New 52?
@captainmarvelthunder: She hasn't lifting anything that would put her above Aquaman
@chu42t: no he shouldn't be below Supes, Hulk has the best strength feat of anyone here. That I've seen at least.
@cregan_stark: A strength feat better than Superman easily bench-pressing the earth for 5 days straight with barely any sun? That I've got to see.
@chu42t: Hulk held up the weight of a star. Acid skull and GhostRavage have explained this feat several times. I believe they said it was about 300,000 times the weight if Earth
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