Hybrid darkseid/brainiac vs Silver sufer

Surfer destroys him

DS doesnt need brainiac to beat surfer. 

Surfer stomps them.

Surfer stomps them.

DCAU version? Darkseid/Brainiac gets owned. The characters were severely nerfed in that series.
 
PIS-aside and current versions? I'd go with an amalgam of Darkseid (non avatar/non jobber) and Brainiac.

No Darkseid/Brainiac does not get owned. Agony Matrix would be enough to take down surfer (in my opinion) Look up the Episode (Destroyer) from JLU he flattened Superman took his best Hits and then Just stood up. Compare that to Surfer. If Superman punched him as hard as he could with a charge could surfer take that without going KO? In my opinion not at all. But i'm going to give up soon because it's So incredibly useless talking to people who just "......stomps" and move on. Why bother posting if you have no reason for your logic? ssejillenrad is about the only debater i can respect right now because they are the only one who actually gave reason. Reasons Which i must respectivaly disagree with for my own reasons above.

I love how much people say ".....Destroys him" or "....wins easily" but rarely give a valid reason why. 

Darkseid easily. He owned Superman with ease took his best shots and stood up ready for more. I think if superman gave Surfer his Best shot surfer would be down for the Count. And even with the power of cosmic (no idea what it really does) I think Darkseid's Omega Effect would be more than capable of destroying him. Then you have his powers of telepathy,Telekinesis,Shapshifting he's immortal (but he came back from death in the cartoon so i guess that doesn't count),He is also much more phyiscally strong than surfer not to mention the Agony Matrix "Picture the worst pain you've ever felt in your life times a thousand now picture that pain continuing forever...." So i don't really see how surfer is going to deal with that.

Surfer stomps this moron 
 
Pre Crisis Darkseid >>>>>> Current comic Darkseid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Justice League animated Darksied + Brianiac tech 
 
animated Superman is weak, animated Supes is about as strong as Aquaman or Namor 
Yet Animated Supes gave Cartoon Darkised trouble, even kicked his ass. And Batman dodged the Omega Effect of Cartoon Darkseid + Brainiac 
 
Comic book Silver Surfer has insane feats, they date all the way back to the 60s and he's way faster, way stronger and way more versatile than JLU Darkseid 
he can transmute things, has cosmic awareness etc  
He's got issues and scans that blow away the entire justice league toon
 
only a stupid fanboy would think a top tier comic character gets owned by a diluted animated version of a bad guy

Surfer stomps this moron  Pre Crisis Darkseid >>>>>> Current comic Darkseid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Justice League animated Darksied + Brianiac tech  animated Superman is weak, animated Supes is about as strong as Aquaman or Namor Yet Animated Supes gave Cartoon Darkised trouble, even kicked his ass. And Batman dodged the Omega Effect of Cartoon Darkseid + Brainiac  Comic book Silver Surfer has insane feats, they date all the way back to the 60s and he's way faster, way stronger and way more versatile than JLU Darkseid he can transmute things, has cosmic awareness etc  He's got issues and scans that blow away the entire justice league toon only a stupid fanboy would think a top tier comic character gets owned by a diluted animated version of a bad guy

No Darkseid/Brainiac does not get owned. Agony Matrix would be enough to take down surfer (in my opinion) Look up the Episode (Destroyer) from JLU he flattened Superman took his best Hits and then Just stood up. Compare that to Surfer. If Superman punched him as hard as he could with a charge could surfer take that without going KO? In my opinion not at all. But i'm going to give up soon because it's So incredibly useless talking to people who just "......stomps" and move on. Why bother posting if you have no reason for your logic? ssejillenrad is about the only debater i can respect right now because they are the only one who actually gave reason. Reasons Which i must respectivaly disagree with for my own reasons above.

 If Superman punched Silver Surfer as hard as he could cartoon Superman would break his fist on Surfer's face 
that's how durable Surfer is 
animated Superman is weak 
Surfer laughs at the agony matrix, its a stupid joke

animated Superman is nothing, Surfer would kill him by just nodding, he's nothing 
then Silver Surfer wipes out the solar system killing animated Jobberseid + Brainiac  
and then wipes out Apokolips for the loz 
 
and Surfer can do all this before JLU Darkseid can even blink  
 
Surfer is that fast, that powerful and animated Darkseid is that weak compared to him

Silver Surfer stomps this easily. Spite.

The only chance this Darkseid has is his Omega Beams, they were able to do what they do in the comic against people all save Superman for obvious reasons.  
Although, Surfer could probably just outmaneuver them. 

The only chance this Darkseid has is his Omega Beams, they were able to do what they do in the comic against people all save Superman for obvious reasons.  Although, Surfer could probably just outmaneuver them. 

@OmegaDynasty said:

The only chance this Darkseid has is his Omega Beams, they were able to do what they do in the comic against people all save Superman for obvious reasons.  Although, Surfer could probably just outmaneuver them. 

Omega beams would miss surfer (if we are using the cartoon version of Darkseid/branic) just as they missed batman. Surfer is far too durable, faster, stronger, smarter, more powers...than the cartoon version of DS/Branic. Surfer can 1hitko...easily.

@MutenRoshi:  I'm not a fanboy towards anything. I show no favoritism to any one character over another. There would never be an argument if someone didn't take the lesser sides half. So that is what I'm going to do. I'm going to keep sticking with it as long as I need to. Although i'll probably forget about this thread eventually. "Nunquam Trado" and "Nunquam Redono" translation. Never Surrender and Never Give up.

@AtheneOwnsYou said:

@OmegaDynasty said:

The only chance this Darkseid has is his Omega Beams, they were able to do what they do in the comic against people all save Superman for obvious reasons.  Although, Surfer could probably just outmaneuver them. 

Omega beams would miss surfer (if we are using the cartoon version of Darkseid/branic) just as they missed batman. Surfer is far too durable, faster, stronger, smarter, more powers...than the cartoon version of DS/Branic. Surfer can 1hitko...easily.

Yep, the only person I think would give Surfer a problem from JLU would be Amazo. 

Surfer stomps this moron  Pre Crisis Darkseid >>>>>> Current comic Darkseid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Justice League animated Darksied + Brianiac tech  animated Superman is weak, animated Supes is about as strong as Aquaman or Namor Yet Animated Supes gave Cartoon Darkised trouble, even kicked his ass. And Batman dodged the Omega Effect of Cartoon Darkseid + Brainiac  Comic book Silver Surfer has insane feats, they date all the way back to the 60s and he's way faster, way stronger and way more versatile than JLU Darkseid he can transmute things, has cosmic awareness etc  He's got issues and scans that blow away the entire justice league toon only a stupid fanboy would think a top tier comic character gets owned by a diluted animated version of a bad guy

@Freefa11: Yes i said that because people were just saying Surfer Stomps with out giving a reason and once someone posted "them" that proved that not everyone was even reading and answering and when i used fanboying/trolling it was more towards people who were answering without even reading. And yes i will except your argument but what have I ignored? 

People keep saying animated Superman and Darkseid are weaker than comic book versions but I don't understand why they would be, 

and I mean Darkseid disintegrated a parademon with his Omega beams,is that a a feat which they can do in the comic? 

 So if they have a feat with the same portrayal as one in the comics would that not mean they are of equal power? 

But seriously the Superman from the animated version was still able to take shots from guns unaffected caught grenades and let them explode unaffected so these are feats he can do in the comics so why would the rest of his feats be downgraded if these aren't? So in my opinion if these are equal to comic version the rest of his feats must be equal and So must Darkseids

And I already stated that Silver Surfer could do MUCH better than batman but also like I said if someone doesn't take the side of the one everyone says will get stomped or crushed or curbstomped then it's just a spite thread and it gets locked up. So I always try to balance the playing field of the match ups by throwing in my two cents for the weaker party,are my arguments in this thread hopeless? Obviously. I did reading on silver surfer and what the cosmic for is normally used for and Surfer does seem to a force to be reckoned with but I put my feet in blocks of cement and i know Surfer would most likely take this but once i submit my argument I don't change it even if it's for the losing side. And everyone has already offered me sufficient proof and had me think more about the Silver Surfer I didn't ignore anything but I gotta try. "Nunquam Trado"

@AtheneOwnsYou: Point acknowledged. I understand what everyone is saying about how the animated versions are weaker but what if we looked at on a black and white point of view:This is Darkseid. He has Upgrades.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             :Silver Surfer. He has the power cosmic.    

 Can Silver Surfer beat Darkseid?   

 Can Silver Surfer beat a Darkseid with upgrades?  That is my black and white argument.

Silver Surfer stomps this easily. Spite.

The cartoons where toned down in power lvls, Surfer would beatdown comic DS, this one gets a epic beating.

Silver Surfer takes this.

@GhostRider2 said:

Silver Surfer takes this.

WE KNOW!!!!!!! why did you bump this crap thread just to state the obvious .....

How isn't this locked.

@Ancient_0f_Days:why not?some fanatics don't know, they said that the great darkseid is very powerful and he stomps the rider.Darkseid isn't that great.

@GhostRider2 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days:why not?some fanatics said that the great darkseid is very powerful and he stomps the rider.Darkseid isn't that great.

.......... wow, "the rider" ...... fail

and Comic Darkseid stomps the "Surfer"

Animated Darkseid gets stomped .....

But really you put off an anti DC vibe dude, I can tell ....

ok which fool said surfer is stronger than superman,he is definitely not stronger than superman,however if we're talking in the show,surfer owns him..and besides,animated superman is no stronger than aquaman or namor

Surfer stomping animated Darkseid thread is almost as big a stomp as the Darkseid stomping Rider thread.