Human Torch vs Wolverine

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#51  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
Dark King said:
k4tzm4n said: lmao.  First and foremost, you should really proof read your posts first.  Second, I read Wolverine so I'm ... [more]

Your posts give the impression you're defending wolverine, thus giving the impression you think he wins.  Next time ELABORATE.  Also, it clearly isn't BS and I've stated why.
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#52  Edited By Dark King
claws said:
i laugh at them for thinking i'm an wolverine fanboy
its just very few ppl know what logan is capable of thats all which is why he is treated the same way some treat superman or sentry at times as an automatic loss.
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#53  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
Dark King said:
claws said: i laugh at them for thinking i'm an wolverine fanboy its just very few ppl know what logan ... [more]

........That statement made no sense...You're comparing Wolverine to two EXTREMELY powerful beings who can take out a large majority of foes.  The problem is most people OVERESTIMATE Wolverine due to his healing factor and are dumb enough to think he can currently withstand another attack similiar to what Nitro did to him.
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#54  Edited By Dark King
k4tzm4n said:
Dark King said: claws said: i laugh at them for thinking i'm an wolverine fanboy its just very few ppl ... [more]
we'll just have to wait till it happens again and it will happen again. :)

i was trying say some ppl have so much hate that they will give someone an automatic loss at times.
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#55  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

....I can't believe you.  Did you NOT read that entire arc?  If Wolverine goes to the point of DEATH, he is DEAD forever now.  There was an entire issue dedicated to what happened after Nitro blew him apart and how he was dead.  Those events were explained in the next arc, Death of Logan.    We just covered this over and over.

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#56  Edited By Dark King
k4tzm4n said:
....I can't believe you.  Did you NOT read that entire arc?  If Wolverine goes to the point of DEATH, he ... [more]
and you dont understand that you will get new writers and someone is bound to do it again. besides logan was already taking similar damage in the late 80's and early ninties some writer will forget the arc you wait and watch.
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#57  Edited By Static Shock
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I knew it. There's nothing there about willpower. He just learned techniques on how to cope with pain to take his mind off of it while his healing factor did the work. If it was his willpower that helped, it would be like saying he forced himself to heal by thought, when that wasn't the case.

I've I said, healing factors and willpower don't go hand in hand. Healing factors are involuntary processes. They can't be controlled.
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#58  Edited By Dark King

if i hadnt given away my scanner i show you but whatever believe what you want.. the wolverine #21 and 22 shows him fighting the cocaine and alien infection and him visualizing himself fighting it of at a molecular or microscopic lvl. in that issue he went and rescued rough house after being sold by general coy to some drug dealer whose body gaurd was an old nazi scientist   with a cyborg suit. i dont care what you think believe what you want.

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#59  Edited By Static Shock
Dark King said:
if i hadnt given away my scanner i show you but whatever believe what you want.. the wolverine #21 and ... [more]
Yeah, his body is fighting the coke and infection while he's 'visualizing' himself fighting an infection. He's taking his mind off of it. Has nothing to with willpower. What I believe is right.

But, for your sake, I'll download those issues and read them. I'll get back to you later.
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#60  Edited By Dark King

also read wolverine # 131 into thin air,

".......but fighting a disease  is a lot like climbing a mountain.  impressive physical abilities will get you goin but at the end o the day. only one thing's gonna get you over it and thats the power o your will".

thats after his healing factor gave up on him.


and wolverine #100 consciously reject the adamantium bonding process

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#61  Edited By Static Shock
Dark King said:
also read wolverine # 131 into thin air, ".......but fighting a disease  is a lot like climbing a mountain.  impressive ... [more]
What volume?
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#62  Edited By Dark King

volume2

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#63  Edited By Static Shock
Dark King said:
volume2
I'ma get back at you later then...
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#64  Edited By Djokic43

HF wins this for all the good reasons above.

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#65  Edited By hjga

i didn't get much of the wolverine hate some of my friends have been throwing around lately... then i read people here saying Wolverine can actually beat the human torch because of his healing factor alone.

It's becoming absurd, his healing factor's become so fast over the last few years, that one could argue it even has extra dimensional properties. Because all of that muscle mass he keeps getting back everytime he get's cut or blown apart has to come from somewhere. It might as well be hammerspace at this point.

This is pretty much a staple of the character, but also something that kind of bothers me: he feels pain. but he doesn't, not really anyways. I remember in AoA he jumps into the explosion of a zeppelin just to get thrown by the updraft onto another plataform.

In any case, HT heats the atmosphere around him, dehydrates him, and gives him brain damage, KILLING HIM

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#66  Edited By GhostPool

Wolverine has hf so he cant die

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#67  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

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#68  Edited By Static Shock
GhostPool said:
Wolverine has hf so he cant die
Not true.
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#69  Edited By Triumphant

Torch ftw

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#70  Edited By hjga
GhostPool said:
Wolverine has hf so he cant die

well played.
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#71  Edited By Sleuth

Nova blast for the win.

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#72  Edited By Static Shock
hjga said:
well played.
Bad play.
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#73  Edited By hjga
Static Shock said:
hjga said: well played. Bad play. [more]

exactly my point
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#74  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Don't bother, Static Shock...I'm just amazed that people come in and say "HE CAN'T DIEZLAWL!" ....Even though the past 2 pages consist of us disputing it and proving that he indeed can.

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#75  Edited By Static Shock
hjga said:
Static Shock said: hjga said: well played. Bad play. [more] exactly my point [more]
Sorry, didn't see the sarcasm there. My bad.
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#76  Edited By hjga

???
well that's what i'm saying.
one can fly, the other one can't
one can char flesh at will, the other one has knives on his wrists
etc.
I seriously can't understand why anybody would say wolverine could win this

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#77  Edited By claws

torch ftw wolverine aint gonna get him when he is in the air

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#79  Edited By ritchman678

in a quick h2h i say human torch

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#82  Edited By Obtrusive

Human torch would cook wolverine but thats no problem.  If torch gets in range he is dead and he can't destroy the metal on wolverines bones.

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#83  Edited By Grey-Boss

Human Torch wins.... if he stays in the sky and throws fire at Wolvering.

But everyone always forgets about Wolverines skills in battle, acute senses, and etc. He would dodge HT's attacks with ease.

But the whole HT Goes supernova crap, you do know if he does that it would burn away the earths atmosphere and kill everyone on the planet including HT. So I don't think it would be smart.

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#84  Edited By Waffle Fries
@Ketch said:
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The stuff that holds his bones togeter aren't indestructable. If they were, he couldn't move. It's his skeleton, not his joints that are adamantum.

"

"exactly" in my best homer impersonating mr burns impersonation.

torch wins
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#85  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30

HT for the win

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#86  Edited By Bo88gdan

Human Torch

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#87  Edited By sgu823

It's all about durability and stamina. Torch can do two things. He can fly up and attack with low blast of fire which Logan will either dodge or shrug off like nothing. Or he can go all out and use a Super Nova leaving him exhausted. Which Logan will be able to come back from before Torch recovers. Either way Torch runs out of stamina and his flames go out. Then it's Logan's turn.

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#88  Edited By jonEsherfey

@Ketch said:

Wolverine can't touch Human Torch if he's in the air.

Human Torch beats Wolverine

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#89  Edited By jeanroygrant

Flame on.

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Human torch win because he can spoil wolveinr claws by his fireball :p

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Death 1: Wouldn't the pressure and force of the fire just snap the neck of Wolverine?

Death 2: Sudden severe trauma can burn out his healing factor and leave him temporarily vulnerable to mortal wounds.

Death 3: incinerating all organic tissue in his body through great heat.

Human torch stomps.