Human Torch VS Electro

Who wins?

Johnny rather easily

This is in the wrong forum.

Depends what electro.Electro from the animated series took on the entire shield and captain americas crew plus spiderman.human torch cannot beat that electro

If Electro can deliver a critical blow before Johnny can transform id say it could do the trick

" If Electro can deliver a critical blow before Johnny can transform id say it could do the trick "

Electro's an Idiot, and idiot, and Johnny's a arrogant douche so..... I gotta go with a tie 
 
It's a tie {5-5}

How the hell is human torch going to defeat electro?Electro's attacks should travel with the speed of lighting and he all he has to do is unload a blow on human torch and is gone Johnny is just a human when it comes to durability

@pulamea said:

How the hell is human torch going to defeat electro?Electro's attacks should travel with the speed of lighting and he all he has to do is unload a blow on human torch and is gone Johnny is just a human when it comes to durability

I think same thing.

Depends on what version of Electro. Any of the more powerful versions would take Johnny. Including the current version. That said, this is an old thread.

Johnny with the Cosmic control rod can't loose to Electro

Human Torch seems more powerful

I like my Electro grilled :). HT FTW

electros a dumbass tho johnny is no slouch where theres heat he is in his element and heat is everywhere morals off electro dies

They both can one shot each other

morals of johnny would pull the plug on electro 1st but with morals probably not

I think this could go either way. Johnny's flight and aerial agility is a nice advantage, but Electro has the faster attack. I'm 50/50 on this one without details.

Human Torch....FTW.....

Human Torch has a huge speed and flight advantage while both of their energy projection levels may remain the equivalent to each other. Although one-shotting each-other is quite possible, and Electro zapping Johnny to death is possible too. Though I'm still giving the majority to Johnny because he has range.

Mr. Z~kun

If Electro can get a decent hit on the Torch it'll be over quickly, Human Torch(other than his flame-resistant suit and powers of fire) has the anatomical abilities of a normal human, who also happens to have some good combat training.

Electricity could stop his heart if he hits, but to do that he needs the jump on em. Otherwise torchie can just fire-ball em.

Electro would easily win. Even if he misses with his bolt the sound alone would blow out Human Torch's ear drums and disorient him giving Electro more time to fire another. Plus Electro can fly, become intangible and move at the speed of light if he wants to. It just requires precious use of stored juice which is his biggest weakness. Sure Max Dillon is not a genius when it comes to combat tactics but he is very smart when it comes to understanding electronics.

Electro on account of his intangibility

@strider92: I think Electro can become intangible to physical attacks not to fire atacks.When heat goes threw Electro will agitate the Molecules in the air charged by Electro's electric body and mess with his molecules.

Electro

IF Electro is not jobbing he wins, he could drain the city and one shot Storm.

50/50

Lightning can dispatch Fire same as water so, i said Electro wins

Johnny but not easily. See the thing with Max his as powerful as he can be only just recently has he unleashed his powers at a level sufficient with killing someone in the majority of his history he opts for short blasts of electricity to stun his enemies or knock them unconcious and couldn't really hold the juice long enough to kill them.

HOWEVER with the reboot of Amazing Spider-Man following Superior Spider-Man his powers received a massive boost making him on part with his movie counterpart and ultimate Electro. He still requires a lot of electricity to fully use his power but his capacity and ability to unleash it these days are very impressive and yes a match for the human touch but I still give torch the win because he doesn't need to draw his power from another source.

Old thread is old.

human torch has insane durability lol im saying he wins a solid majority

Durability

Physical Resistance

• Tanks a punch from Annihilus

• Gets hit by Dragon Man

• Gets punched by Namor

• Tanks multiple blows from Mahkizmo

• Skrull X punches him with the Thing’s strength

• He took a hit from Gladiator

• Tanks a blow from Sandman

• Tanks a shot of earth from Terrax with the power cosmic. And again

• Tanks blows from Hammerhead in an exo-skeleton

• Tanks a hit from Super Skrull using the Thing’s strength

• Ben slams him against a wall hard enough to crack it

• Tanks blows from the ruined

• He’s smacked into the ground by Terminus

• Tanks a shield thrown by a mind controlled Cap

• Trades blows with Namor (who is a pretty strong guy). Namor also isn’t holding back much as he tries to kill the Torch at the end of this fight

• A multiple story building is dropped on him

Energy Resistance

• He gets hit by some of Iron Man’s repulsor blasts

• Tanks a blast from Annihilus

• Tanks a blast from Oculus. His blasts are strong enough to destroy mountains

• Tanks a shot from Blastaar

• Tanks a blast from Firelord

• Tanks a blast from Kree Iron Man (his weapons are described as being stronger than the real thing’s)

• Tanks a blast from the herald Nova

• Tanks a blast from a Doombot

• His powers allow him to survive a close range explosion

Other

• Is resistant to heat and flame. He can be hurt by hellfire though

• He also seems to have some resistance to cold

• Bullets aren’t gonna work on him

• Water is not an instant win against him

• Can stop gas and artillery.

• He can create a heat shield that according to him will stop anything short of an atomic blast

• Resists a thunderclap

• Poison ain’t gonna stop him

Miscellaneous

• Defeats Terrax, herald of Galactus

• Defeats the Skrull X, who has the same powers as the Super Skrull

• His fight with the X-men doppelgangers

• Defeats Ultron with a nova blast

• Defeats a guy way bigger than him without his powers

• Defeats Spider-Woman

@rpgesus: Wow...

Human Torch wins.

Does Electro have any level of resistance to fire? Given the nature of his powers I'd think he must reach pretty good temperatures. I don't recall it ever being addressed in any issue with him I've read though.

@ultimateinferno:

Flame Manipulation

Power

• Character Statements on the Torch’s destructive power

• He destroys an asteroid the size of Manhattan.

• He melts thousands of leagues of earth in seconds

• Aside from his nova explosions he can also make fireballs and fireblasts nova hot.

• Makes a really big fireball

• Blows up an underwater volcano

• BAROOM!

• He can turn sand into glass

• Launches a cube of solid adamantium

• Explodes a mountain

• Destroys Doctor Doom’s forcefield

• Melts through two-feet of Molybdenum. Molybdenum has the sixth-highest melting point of any element.

• He’s knocked back the Hulk. Does it again

• Destroys a fire elemental by consuming all the oxygen in a mile with a flare

• He nearly breaks free from one of Sue’s forcefields He probably would have succeeded if he hadn’t run out of oxygen.

• Lowers an entire city block with heat

• Bullets melt before they hit him

• While using the Four’s combat training room he vaporizes all of the room’s defenses. It should be noted that the defenses in the room were specifically meant to challenge the Human Torch.

• Water beats fire right? Nah

• Melts Ronan’s universal weapon

• Forces a submarine to surface by boiling the water

• His fire’s strong enough to knock back Namor

• The heat from his Nova flams is described as being similar to that of a nuclear blast

• Destroys a ton of robots in one blast

• Quickly melts a bulldozer thrown at him by She Hulk

• Raises his heat from absolute zero

• Creates a large explosion of fire

• Casually takes out three of Annihilus’s bugs

• Knocks Silver Surfer off his board. This doesn’t hurt him at all but it’s still impressive.

• Burns out all the oxygen in the High Evolutionary’s city

• Defeats Dragon Man with sunstroke

• Goes nova on the Annihilation Wave

• Johnny vs the Annihilation Wave

• That’s a lot of fire!

• Destroys the building Annihilus is in

• Sets a planet sized object on fire

Control

• Some character statements on the great control Johnny has over his powers

• Fences with a flaming sword construct that won’t hurt his opponent if it hits

• He tricks Reed (who’s a pretty smart guy) into thinking he incinerated Doom

• Creates intense heat but controls it enough that no one else near him can feel it

• He’s able to destroy a man’s armor without the man under it getting hurt at all

• Traps Titania by melting the debris she’s holding

• Takes out a bunch of Kree soldiers

• He can grab objects with flaming lassos

• He’s able to suck out the moisture from a person’s body. At one point he uses this ability to defeat She-Hulk

• He can create mirages. They’re even good enough to fool Dr. Doom!

• He is also somehow able to make flame and fireballs without heat.

• Johnny’s accurate enough to ignite Ben’s cigar, destroy a man’s rocket boots and destroy the Vulture’s wings without hurting them.

• He can create blinding flashes of light

• He can create duplicates of himself.

• He creates a working probing device out of fire (don’t ask how this is possible)

• Grows to gigantic size while being controlled by Maximus

• He can slow people’s descents by creating updrafts

• When fighting someone he doesn’t want to hurt he knocks them out by creating heat waves

• Turns Hydro-man into steam and into ice

• Puts out the fires raging across Manhattan

• Can sense heat signatures, and uses this to locate the invisible beings. 2.

• Uses a man’s cigarette to create a smokescreen. He can also create large amounts of smoke from his own body

Absorption

• He can also absorb fire, even if it’s created by another fire manipulator

• He’s able to absorb Blastaar’s explosive blasts and shoot them back as flame

• Freezes the top floor of the Baxter by absorbing all the heat around it, and then releases it in a large explosion

• Sucks the energy out of a supervillain

• Another heat absorption feat

• He freezes Graviton

• Absorbs the energy released from an exploding portal

• Absorbs the blast of an atomic bomb

Other

• His flames allows him to fly by making his molecules lighter than air. Just kidding! It’s actually because of a cloud of hydrogen atoms

• His suit allows him to “flame on” in space

• At one point he knocks out the Impossible Man by creating a hypnotic pattern in the sky

• Johnny can create flames instantly

• Can stay on fire underwater

• He can use his excess body heat to double his strength

• He can even fly underground by melting the earth!

Speed and Maneuverability

• An album of some of his bullet/laser dodging feats

• When he first starts out his top speed is Mach 1

• Catches up to Ben after Ben’s launched by the Rocket Sled

• Easily Maneuvers around multiple animals

• Creates a thousand foot tall tornado by flying in circles. Another example

• Quickly veers off course to avoid the Impossible Man’s buzzsaw

• He’s also too fast for the military’s guns to track

• And Cyclops’s optic blasts

• Too fast for the Frightful Four

• Sandman can’t touch him

• He outspeeds the Wanderer’s ship

• While injured he dodges a water blast shot at him by the Hulk

• Reacts at the speed of thought

• Easily avoids Zeta Particles

• Quickly reacts to an ice barrier while in flight

• Flies from Paris to the Himalayas in a short timespan

• The Inhuman’s vehicles can’t keep up with him

• Is too fast to be stopped

• He can fly against tornado winds

• Destroys the Trapster’s paste and then blitzes him through a wall

• Dodges laser fire while standing

• His flame duplicates are described as moving “faster than human eyes can follow”

• He can easily outspeed missiles

• Quickly shoots down a barrage of rocks batted at him by She Hulk

• Catches She Hulk before she’s incinerated

• Pulls a batman

• While flamed off, he reacts quickly enough to melt bullets after they’ve been shot at him

@bones309:

Electro wins

He can dodge, HT attack with ease (he should be)

And they can one-shot each other

So I'm backing Electro

no he cant one shot human torch

@rpgesus: Not exactly one-shot. but the fight will most likely end before HT can touch Electro

@khael: you're right human torch doesnt need to touch electro to incinerate him completely

HT.

@rpgesus:

Not to make your awesome list irrelevant but.....

Lightning is ionized air. Air is a gas. Ionized gas is known as plasma. HT is made of plasma.

In a battle between two opponents wielding similar forces the battle should go to who has the greater difference in skill or raw power. I think HT has a little more in skill, much more raw power.

@khael: gg electro

• Goes nova on the Annihilation Wave

• Johnny vs the Annihilation Wave

• That’s a lot of fire!

@rpgesus: What the hell?

HT stomp then

People been smoking some good stuff in this thread, are people actually forgetting every street level we under the sun has dodged electors blasts

I have a new found respect for the Human Torch now.

The Torch because he's more powerful and awesome.

I posted on here before with the same idea but shouldn't Electro have a pretty high heat resistance given the nature of his powers? Here's a pic of him melting steal with ease and one of him hurting the Human Torch. To be fair, I don't know if the Torch image is canon but it makes sense that electricity would hurt the Torch. Morals off, I can see a nova Torch likely being too much but even that might depend on the incarnation. If Electro can turn into electricity, I don't think the Torch could do anything.