Human Torch vs. Cyclops

#1 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio
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Good natured sparring in the danger room set to Times Square. No bloodlust, regular personalities. (There are healers on stand-by so they don't have to worry about high intensity burns or ruptured organs) 
#2 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Torch

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#3 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4151 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"Torch"

#4 Posted by Platinumwarrior (2967 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Torch should win this.

#5 Posted by Buckshot (18202 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio
Super-Buster said:
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Good natured sparring in the danger room set to Times Square. No bloodlust, regular personalities. (There are healers on stand-by so they don't have to worry about high intensity burns or ruptured organs) "
Quality setup.
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#6 Posted by Gambler (80655 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Maybe a quality set-up, but I'm not sure its a quality match up. Maybe I'm underestimating Cyc

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#7 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

My initial thoughts are that Johnny would have the speed advantage so he could have better luck avoiding attacks, but through effective use of cover Cyke could negate that advantage. Another point is that Cyke's blasts seem to travel faster than Johnny's fire  but that's speculation on my part and I would have to do some research. My last point is that I think Scott is a better fighter, that is, he uses his power more effectively than Johnny and I could see a well-executed plan taking Johnny out. So I'll go with Cyke for now.


Thanks Buck.
#8 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Johnny is hot.

you don't touch hot

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#9 Posted by Ebony Bishop (767 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

If we're talking friendly in the Danger Room, Cyke takes this. Johnny really has no non-lethal attacks, and Cyclops is a far better strategist. He could bounce an optic blast off 7 surfaces and hit Johnny from behind, knocking him out.

And I want to second what Buckshot said: awesome to have some set up.

#10 Posted by Gambler (80655 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

I disagree. The Human Torch has several none lethal tactics he could employ. Like melting certain areas, under, above, or beside Cyc to off set his balance and or restrict his movements, as well as create clones of himself to keep Cyc distracted long enough to come in from another angle, hoping for a knock out.

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#11 Posted by mkdeadpool (220 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

the first post said that the heroes did not have to worry as there was healers at the side, ruining any chance cyclops had as johnny would not have to worry as much about killing him

#12 Posted by Ebony Bishop (767 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Healers can only heal the living, so there's still worry for Johnny. Everyone's also forgetting home court advantage. The Danger Room is Cyclops' second home. I think he knows what it's capable of handling far more than Johnny, who might not blast hard enough to melt it, or too hard and do more damage then he intended. I still think Cyke would take this for the superior strategic mind.

#13 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

I'm going to go with Cyclops here. Johnny is going to give him some trouble with his flight and speed, but I think with his skills and the pure range and power of his optic blast Cyclops could take it. He really only needs one hit to win too so its not like he will have to worry about a constant blast, just one good shot, maybe reflected off of something that hits johnny from behind.

#14 Posted by Meteorite (3306 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Definetly Cyke.  One time, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Rogue, and Storm were all trying to kill him because they thought he was Dark Phoenix due to Mastermind, and he managed to hold them off long enough to reveal Mastermind's plan. He's a good as strategist.

#15 Posted by lionheart (1261 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio
Ebony Bishop said:
"If we're talking friendly in the Danger Room, Cyke takes this. Johnny really has no non-lethal attacks, and Cyclops is a far better strategist. He could bounce an optic blast off 7 surfaces and hit Johnny from behind, knocking him out.

And I want to second what Buckshot said: awesome to have some set up.
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#16 Posted by Gambler (80655 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio
Ebony Bishop said:
"Healers can only heal the living, so there's still worry for Johnny. Everyone's also forgetting home court advantage. The Danger Room is Cyclops' second home. I think he knows what it's capable of handling far more than Johnny, who might not blast hard enough to melt it, or too hard and do more damage then he intended. I still think Cyke would take this for the superior strategic mind.
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Actually there would be no home court advantage, at least not for Cyc. The Danger Room transforms into Time Square (which the Human Torch would be more familiar with)
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#17 Posted by Lillya WildChild (5347 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

I dont like him much, i think he is to cocky, but scott wins. though it would more likely be faster if it was to the death, but yea..the dude can blow a hole in a moutain just by looking at it...

#18 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 4 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"... as well as create clones of himself"
I must not be very familiar with Torch, when did he create clones of himself?
#19 Posted by jlavengerx77 (200 posts) - 3 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Cyke's a better stragetist and way more skilled but I think torch can super nova him
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