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@jeepeh: On a humane level, like I said. That'd put him peak human at the very least, but nowhere near any mach speed lol. Bah, we know what peak humans can do. Take Batman for example. Or Black Canary, or...Green Arrow. So, Ichigo can perform relative feats with a sword. After all, even before knowing he was a Shinigami, at the age of 15, he could handle a gang on his own.

Just asking, you said retains his reflexes so I wondered if you meant his Shinigami reflexes. :P But if he's only peak human, how does that put him above the other peak humans and superhumans on the list?

It's simply because he is not above the other peak humans.

So many people are kinda overrating Human Ichigo. He's good but he's not a god. It's as if people think he's better than Captain America or something. He can't possibly be that much more than Peak human levels and guys like Wolverine, Captain America, and Batman have fought against people way tougher than Ichigo, Wolverine fought the Unstoppable Flippin' Juggernaut and The Incredible Hulk, Wolverine fought Captain America, Captain America fought Thor. Keep in mind Batman is considered Peak Human. Even Bane is stronger than Human Ichigo, Bane does possess Superhuman strength, a fair bit of it. Perhaps we should call out some Batman or Wolverine fans and see what they think.

You know what Smallville Clark Kent without his powers would beat Human Ichigo.

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@jeepeh said:

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@jeepeh: On a humane level, like I said. That'd put him peak human at the very least, but nowhere near any mach speed lol. Bah, we know what peak humans can do. Take Batman for example. Or Black Canary, or...Green Arrow. So, Ichigo can perform relative feats with a sword. After all, even before knowing he was a Shinigami, at the age of 15, he could handle a gang on his own.

Just asking, you said retains his reflexes so I wondered if you meant his Shinigami reflexes. :P But if he's only peak human, how does that put him above the other peak humans and superhumans on the list?

That would be because Ichigo has experienced foes on a much more heightened level of speed, he would not find it difficult to cope, in singles competitions, versus opponents of his own level especially. He has instinctive reflexes, something even other peak humans will find difficulty handling. Something like the Karate Kid's reflexes, not that far off, but like that I guess.

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@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

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#54  Edited By ssj3gohan007

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@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

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While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

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#56  Edited By ssj3gohan007

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@ssj3gohan007: Ah of course. Clark Kent can. lol :|

Exactly! :D

So can Hercules from his own show, he defeated Thor after all, and Ares, and heck even Hera w/Zeus's power. and the Titans, Uber-powerful Demon Lords, Various Gods from various pantheons and myths, Egyptian Gods(Egyptian Pantheon), Indian Gods, Hindu Pantheon, Irish Gods, Celtic Pantheon, Greek Gods, Olympian Pantheon, Norse Gods(Norse Pantheon), Asgardians, Sumerian Pantheon, The Primordials, Dahak and his daughter. He even took on Archangel Michael and the four horseman of the Apocalypse. He was able to hold up Mount Olympus and the Heavens. Not to mention that he is Immortal, and he was able to live for thousands of years without aging. The kicker is the real Hercules now goes under the name of Kevin Sorbo, and is an actor who plays as himself as the star of his own show. The guy is a badass!

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Kchigo is strong even without powers. Very fast reflexes and great agility. And pretty good technkcal fighter!

But I can't see how he gets pass Deadpool!

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@lowlaville said:

@ssj3gohan007: Ah of course. Clark Kent can. lol :|

Exactly! :D

So can Hercules from his own show, he defeated Thor after all, and Ares, and heck even Hera w/Zeus's power. and the Titans, Uber-powerful Demon Lords, Various Gods from various pantheons and myths, Egyptian Gods(Egyptian Pantheon), Indian Gods, Hindu Pantheon, Irish Gods, Celtic Pantheon, Greek Gods, Olympian Pantheon, Norse Gods(Norse Pantheon), Asgardians, Sumerian Pantheon, The Primordials, Dahak and his daughter. He even took on Archangel Michael and the four horseman of the Apocalypse. He was able to hold up Mount Olympus and the Heavens. Not to mention that he is Immortal, and he was able to live for thousands of years without aging. The kicker is the real Hercules now goes under the name of Kevin Sorbo, and is an actor who plays as himself as the star of his own show. The guy is a badass!

I don't see how that has any relevence in this thread, though. Clark Kent and Herc I mean.

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@lowlaville said:

@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

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While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

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#60  Edited By ssj3gohan007

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@lowlaville said:

@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

No Caption Provided

While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

It's not PIS, its test to his invulnerability. He is based of Silver Age Superman. He has powers even when he doesn't have powers. He has slightly Superhuman strength like that of a powerful Vampire, even when he doesn't have any powers.

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#61  Edited By jeepeh

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@lowlaville said:

@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

No Caption Provided

While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

It's not PIS, its test to his invulnerability. He is based of Silver Age Superman. He has powers even when he doesn't have powers. He has slightly Superhuman strength like that of a powerful Vampire, even when he doesn't have any powers.

1. The fudge are you saying?

2. That doesn't make sense. If he has powers then he has powers, then he's not powerless. You said "POWERLESS Clark. "

3. Still PIS. If you take away his powers he's just a normal human, like the alternate world/future when the sun was turned red. He was just 100% human.

4. Did you just compare Superman to a vampire? ._.

5. Even if it's true, he has nowhere near peak human reaction time when he's human.

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#62  Edited By ssj3gohan007

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@lowlaville said:

@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

No Caption Provided

While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

It's not PIS, its test to his invulnerability. He is based of Silver Age Superman. He has powers even when he doesn't have powers. He has slightly Superhuman strength like that of a powerful Vampire, even when he doesn't have any powers.

1. The fudge are you saying?

2. That doesn't make sense. If he has powers then he has powers, then he's not powerless. You said "POWERLESS Clark. "

3. Still PIS. If you take away his powers he's just a normal human, like the alternate world/future when the sun was turned red. He was just 100% human.

4. Did you just compare Superman to a vampire? ._.

5. Even if it's true, he has nowhere near peak human reaction time when he's human.

1. I am saying that a small fragment of his powers remain even when he's supposed "Powerless"

2. Look above

3. In some comics maybe but not in smallville. He's based on the silver age/pre-crisis superman. He is never actually human, he's kryptonian. He doesn't magically become a human being, he just loses access to the vast majority of his powers. He is still physiologically Kryptonian which only look similar to humans but their actually Superior.

4. The similarity is that Superman's power level when he's powerless is comparable to a Vampire's.

5. Above Peak actually, Like I said he is slightly Superhuman, maybe able to lift a couple of tons, something like that. A powerless Kryptonian =/= to a Human being. Which seems to be what you false believe.

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#63  Edited By jeepeh

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

1. said:

@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

No Caption Provided

While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

It's not PIS, its test to his invulnerability. He is based of Silver Age Superman. He has powers even when he doesn't have powers. He has slightly Superhuman strength like that of a powerful Vampire, even when he doesn't have any powers.

1. The fudge are you saying?

2. That doesn't make sense. If he has powers then he has powers, then he's not powerless. You said "POWERLESS Clark. "

3. Still PIS. If you take away his powers he's just a normal human, like the alternate world/future when the sun was turned red. He was just 100% human.

4. Did you just compare Superman to a vampire? ._.

5. Even if it's true, he has nowhere near peak human reaction time when he's human.

1. I am saying that a small fragment of his powers remain even when he's supposed "Powerless"

2. Look above

3. In some comics maybe but not in smallville. He's based on the silver age/pre-crisis superman. He is never actually human, he's kryptonian. He doesn't magically become a human being, he just loses access to the vast majority of his powers. He is still physiologically Kryptonian which only look similar to humans but their actually Superior.

4. The similarity is that Superman's power level when he's powerless is comparable to a Vampire's.

5. Above Peak actually, Like I said he is slightly Superhuman, maybe able to lift a couple of tons, something like that. A powerless Kryptonian =/= to a Human being. Which seems to be what you false believe.

1. Therefore he's not powerless. *_*

2. You look above. >_>

3. The part I referenced WAS smallville. Remember the tower zod was using to turn the sun red? There was a weird time travel thing to the future and Clark helped Lois by giving up his watch to pay for something. He was completely human. The other kryptonian that wore a blue K ring, it turned him to completely human levels.

4-5. If he's so powerful then why can a knife stab him? He's shown nothing to suggest being so powerful without his powers. I want vids of proof.

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@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

1. said:

@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

No Caption Provided

While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

It's not PIS, its test to his invulnerability. He is based of Silver Age Superman. He has powers even when he doesn't have powers. He has slightly Superhuman strength like that of a powerful Vampire, even when he doesn't have any powers.

1. The fudge are you saying?

2. That doesn't make sense. If he has powers then he has powers, then he's not powerless. You said "POWERLESS Clark. "

3. Still PIS. If you take away his powers he's just a normal human, like the alternate world/future when the sun was turned red. He was just 100% human.

4. Did you just compare Superman to a vampire? ._.

5. Even if it's true, he has nowhere near peak human reaction time when he's human.

1. I am saying that a small fragment of his powers remain even when he's supposed "Powerless"

2. Look above

3. In some comics maybe but not in smallville. He's based on the silver age/pre-crisis superman. He is never actually human, he's kryptonian. He doesn't magically become a human being, he just loses access to the vast majority of his powers. He is still physiologically Kryptonian which only look similar to humans but their actually Superior.

4. The similarity is that Superman's power level when he's powerless is comparable to a Vampire's.

5. Above Peak actually, Like I said he is slightly Superhuman, maybe able to lift a couple of tons, something like that. A powerless Kryptonian =/= to a Human being. Which seems to be what you false believe.

1. Therefore he's not powerless. *_*

2. You look above. >_>

3. The part I referenced WAS smallville. Remember the tower zod was using to turn the sun red? There was a weird time travel thing to the future and Clark helped Lois by giving up his watch to pay for something. He was completely human. The other kryptonian that wore a blue K ring, it turned him to completely human levels.

4-5. If he's so powerful then why can a knife stab him? He's shown nothing to suggest being so powerful without his powers. I want vids of proof.

1)It's as powerless as he ever gets anyway.

2)Copycat xD

3)Of course I remember that but there is no evidence that he is completely human. He is just weaker than the Fully Powered Kryptonians. To a fully powered Kryptonian there's barely any difference between a de-powered Clark and a Human because of the large gap in strength. But there still is, it's just not very great or anything. Human level and actually being human are two different things.

4)It's a Kryptonian Knife with Kryptonite on it >.> It's a pretty deadly combination, because Kryptonian technology is extremely advanced and cap hurt kryptonians, the Kryptonite is icing on the cake as it disables the Kryptonian's power, making it all the more devastating. Ichigo ain't tanking a Kryptonian Knife, that will pierce even the strongest comic book character.

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@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

1. said:

@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

No Caption Provided

While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

It's not PIS, its test to his invulnerability. He is based of Silver Age Superman. He has powers even when he doesn't have powers. He has slightly Superhuman strength like that of a powerful Vampire, even when he doesn't have any powers.

1. The fudge are you saying?

2. That doesn't make sense. If he has powers then he has powers, then he's not powerless. You said "POWERLESS Clark. "

3. Still PIS. If you take away his powers he's just a normal human, like the alternate world/future when the sun was turned red. He was just 100% human.

4. Did you just compare Superman to a vampire? ._.

5. Even if it's true, he has nowhere near peak human reaction time when he's human.

1. I am saying that a small fragment of his powers remain even when he's supposed "Powerless"

2. Look above

3. In some comics maybe but not in smallville. He's based on the silver age/pre-crisis superman. He is never actually human, he's kryptonian. He doesn't magically become a human being, he just loses access to the vast majority of his powers. He is still physiologically Kryptonian which only look similar to humans but their actually Superior.

4. The similarity is that Superman's power level when he's powerless is comparable to a Vampire's.

5. Above Peak actually, Like I said he is slightly Superhuman, maybe able to lift a couple of tons, something like that. A powerless Kryptonian =/= to a Human being. Which seems to be what you false believe.

1. Therefore he's not powerless. *_*

2. You look above. >_>

3. The part I referenced WAS smallville. Remember the tower zod was using to turn the sun red? There was a weird time travel thing to the future and Clark helped Lois by giving up his watch to pay for something. He was completely human. The other kryptonian that wore a blue K ring, it turned him to completely human levels.

4-5. If he's so powerful then why can a knife stab him? He's shown nothing to suggest being so powerful without his powers. I want vids of proof.

1)It's as powerless as he ever gets anyway.

2)Copycat xD

3)Of course I remember that but there is no evidence that he is completely human. He is just weaker than the Fully Powered Kryptonians. To a fully powered Kryptonian there's barely any difference between a de-powered Clark and a Human because of the large gap in strength. But there still is, it's just not very great or anything. Human level and actually being human are two different things.

4)It's a Kryptonian Knife with Kryptonite on it >.> It's a pretty deadly combination, because Kryptonian technology is extremely advanced and cap hurt kryptonians, the Kryptonite is icing on the cake as it disables the Kryptonian's power, making it all the more devastating. Ichigo ain't tanking a Kryptonian Knife, that will pierce even the strongest comic book character.

1. It's made pretty obvious that before his powers come in he's a normal kid.

2. You know it. >.<

3. There's no evidence he isn't completely human either. O_o You haven't shown me proof of that.

4.I disagree.

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Ichigo, and all Bleach characters. gets stabbed all the time. Ichigo is extremely resilient.

I mean, heck, Tsukishima (Yeah, I copy and pasted that name) got his arm cut off and was just like " Hm, nice."

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@ssj3gohan007: Oh and it being kryptonite doesn't make it any more dangerous then it would be if he was a human. Green Kryptonite would, but not Blue.

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@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

@jeepeh said:

@ssj3gohan007 said:

1. said:

@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

No Caption Provided

While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

It's not PIS, its test to his invulnerability. He is based of Silver Age Superman. He has powers even when he doesn't have powers. He has slightly Superhuman strength like that of a powerful Vampire, even when he doesn't have any powers.

1. The fudge are you saying?

2. That doesn't make sense. If he has powers then he has powers, then he's not powerless. You said "POWERLESS Clark. "

3. Still PIS. If you take away his powers he's just a normal human, like the alternate world/future when the sun was turned red. He was just 100% human.

4. Did you just compare Superman to a vampire? ._.

5. Even if it's true, he has nowhere near peak human reaction time when he's human.

1. I am saying that a small fragment of his powers remain even when he's supposed "Powerless"

2. Look above

3. In some comics maybe but not in smallville. He's based on the silver age/pre-crisis superman. He is never actually human, he's kryptonian. He doesn't magically become a human being, he just loses access to the vast majority of his powers. He is still physiologically Kryptonian which only look similar to humans but their actually Superior.

4. The similarity is that Superman's power level when he's powerless is comparable to a Vampire's.

5. Above Peak actually, Like I said he is slightly Superhuman, maybe able to lift a couple of tons, something like that. A powerless Kryptonian =/= to a Human being. Which seems to be what you false believe.

1. Therefore he's not powerless. *_*

2. You look above. >_>

3. The part I referenced WAS smallville. Remember the tower zod was using to turn the sun red? There was a weird time travel thing to the future and Clark helped Lois by giving up his watch to pay for something. He was completely human. The other kryptonian that wore a blue K ring, it turned him to completely human levels.

4-5. If he's so powerful then why can a knife stab him? He's shown nothing to suggest being so powerful without his powers. I want vids of proof.

1)It's as powerless as he ever gets anyway.

2)Copycat xD

3)Of course I remember that but there is no evidence that he is completely human. He is just weaker than the Fully Powered Kryptonians. To a fully powered Kryptonian there's barely any difference between a de-powered Clark and a Human because of the large gap in strength. But there still is, it's just not very great or anything. Human level and actually being human are two different things.

4)It's a Kryptonian Knife with Kryptonite on it >.> It's a pretty deadly combination, because Kryptonian technology is extremely advanced and cap hurt kryptonians, the Kryptonite is icing on the cake as it disables the Kryptonian's power, making it all the more devastating. Ichigo ain't tanking a Kryptonian Knife, that will pierce even the strongest comic book character.

1. It's made pretty obvious that before his powers come in he's a normal kid.

2. You know it. >.<

3. There's no evidence he isn't completely human either. O_o You haven't shown me proof of that.

4.I disagree.

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Ichigo, and all Bleach characters. gets stabbed all the time. Ichigo is extremely resilient.

I mean, heck, Tsukishima (Yeah, I copy and pasted that name) got his arm cut off and was just like " Hm, nice."

1.He had at least some power since he first came to Earth, he lifted Johnathon Kent's truck at 3 years old. He was never normal.

2. Riiiiiight

3. Alien's don't magically become humans just because they don't have their powers. On Krypton they didn't have their powers but their not human >.>

4. That proves something, they were never stabbed by something powerful enough to kill Superman.

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@ssj3gohan007: Perhaps you are the one underestimating Ichigo. Here's him using a button and hitting a bullseye on a target in berserk mode and one towering about 5 times his own size, without any effort at all. The target was also spewing a waterfall of something, which would have made it harder to aim at it.

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While that is impressive, Hercules from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had way more impressive accuracy.

I think Smallville Clark without Powers can beat him. He has amazing feats, Even without powers he was able to survive being stabbed by a kryptonite dagger and falling off a skyscraper and his body remaining in one piece without any noticeable damage, he was still impaled by that kryptonite dagger throughout the entire fall and even afterward. He also withstood being burned by molten lead or something similar and managed to keep Lois from getting touched by that stuff by covering her with his body. The molten liquid as supposed to have killed any normal person as it did countless times before.

No..... Clark died from the knife, he only lived because Lois took it out so his powers returned and healed him. He wasn't splattered against the ground because, 1. PIS. 2. It's PG-13 dude, no exploding bodies. XD No powers, Ichigo would be stronger, faster, and more agile. And what does Clark have anything to do with this thread at all?

It's not PIS, its test to his invulnerability. He is based of Silver Age Superman. He has powers even when he doesn't have powers. He has slightly Superhuman strength like that of a powerful Vampire, even when he doesn't have any powers.

1. The fudge are you saying?

2. That doesn't make sense. If he has powers then he has powers, then he's not powerless. You said "POWERLESS Clark. "

3. Still PIS. If you take away his powers he's just a normal human, like the alternate world/future when the sun was turned red. He was just 100% human.

4. Did you just compare Superman to a vampire? ._.

5. Even if it's true, he has nowhere near peak human reaction time when he's human.

1. I am saying that a small fragment of his powers remain even when he's supposed "Powerless"

2. Look above

3. In some comics maybe but not in smallville. He's based on the silver age/pre-crisis superman. He is never actually human, he's kryptonian. He doesn't magically become a human being, he just loses access to the vast majority of his powers. He is still physiologically Kryptonian which only look similar to humans but their actually Superior.

4. The similarity is that Superman's power level when he's powerless is comparable to a Vampire's.

5. Above Peak actually, Like I said he is slightly Superhuman, maybe able to lift a couple of tons, something like that. A powerless Kryptonian =/= to a Human being. Which seems to be what you false believe.

1. Therefore he's not powerless. *_*

2. You look above. >_>

3. The part I referenced WAS smallville. Remember the tower zod was using to turn the sun red? There was a weird time travel thing to the future and Clark helped Lois by giving up his watch to pay for something. He was completely human. The other kryptonian that wore a blue K ring, it turned him to completely human levels.

4-5. If he's so powerful then why can a knife stab him? He's shown nothing to suggest being so powerful without his powers. I want vids of proof.

1)It's as powerless as he ever gets anyway.

2)Copycat xD

3)Of course I remember that but there is no evidence that he is completely human. He is just weaker than the Fully Powered Kryptonians. To a fully powered Kryptonian there's barely any difference between a de-powered Clark and a Human because of the large gap in strength. But there still is, it's just not very great or anything. Human level and actually being human are two different things.

4)It's a Kryptonian Knife with Kryptonite on it >.> It's a pretty deadly combination, because Kryptonian technology is extremely advanced and cap hurt kryptonians, the Kryptonite is icing on the cake as it disables the Kryptonian's power, making it all the more devastating. Ichigo ain't tanking a Kryptonian Knife, that will pierce even the strongest comic book character.

1. It's made pretty obvious that before his powers come in he's a normal kid.

2. You know it. >.<

3. There's no evidence he isn't completely human either. O_o You haven't shown me proof of that.

4.I disagree.

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Ichigo, and all Bleach characters. gets stabbed all the time. Ichigo is extremely resilient.

I mean, heck, Tsukishima (Yeah, I copy and pasted that name) got his arm cut off and was just like " Hm, nice."

1.He had at least some power since he first came to Earth, he lifted Johnathon Kent's truck at 3 years old. He was never normal.

2. Riiiiiight

3. Alien's don't magically become humans just because they don't have their powers. On Krypton they didn't have their powers but their not human >.>

4. That proves something, they were never stabbed by something powerful enough to kill Superman.

1. That's because they have power as long as they're near a yellow sun and not within Blue or Gold Kryptonite. He was still using his powers then.

2. You do, don't deny it.

3. They don't, but they can become just as weak as humans.

4. Eh, Swords that can cut souls into pieces and vaporize mountains > A cute blue dagger. Show me Superman doing anything Superhuman when under the effects of Blue or Gold Kryptonite, and I'll concede.