Hulkbuster, War Machine vs MOS Superman, Zod

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  1. Death/KO to win
  2. Starting Distance is 100 feet
  3. Bloodlust on
  4. Standard Gear
  5. No prep/knowledge
  6. Movie versions only
  7. Zod can fly and is adjusted his senses
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Superman and Zod beat them with ease.

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#4  Edited By maiamaku

Kryptonians snapping necks and collecting checks

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#5  Edited By christianrapper

they play rock, paper, scissors, and the winner solos while the other 2 chill out a ma kent's house.

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Why make this thread?

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Did you see the jacked up version of Ultron in the new Avengers movie? When he crashed their party and all that? I think he was limping and had one arm.

...that's how Tony and Rhodey should look, except for the fact that they'd be inside the suit, still missing a limb, limping around, until they die of blood loss.

...oh, and that's JUST from Zod...using one hand...while Superman is engaging in, relations with Lois.

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Did you see the jacked up version of Ultron in the new Avengers movie? When he crashed their party and all that? I think he was limping and had one arm.

...that's how Tony and Rhodey should look, except for the fact that they'd be inside the suit, still missing a limb, limping around, until they die of blood loss.

...oh, and that's JUST from Zod...using one hand...while Superman is engaging in, relations with Lois.

Savage.

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No one can solo, I agree that MCU team loses but hulkbuster and war machine could beat one of them

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@phantom16: Team MOS wins. Faster, stronger, more durable. They'd have to try to lose.

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Team man of steel!

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Marvel loses. War Machine is a weak link here.

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#14  Edited By kfabz-23

@panthersrock: war machine was getting rag dolled by Crimson Dynamo/Whiplash he's not beating anyone here.

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Am I the only one who thinks this is spite?

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#16  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

War Machine doesn't add anything to this fight; he can easily be one-shot.

Team 2 stomps, with potential for either one to solo. The Hulkbuster doesn't have the feats to react to blitzing attacks.

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The Hulkbuster was durable and strong; it wasn't fast. The Kryptonians are far faster than the Hulkbuster.

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Superman stomps.

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Team 2.

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Either member of team 2 solo stomps.

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#21  Edited By christianrapper

No one can solo, I agree that MCU team loses but hulkbuster and war machine could beat one of them

they maybe able to beat one of them in monopoly.

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@xiokenji said:
@dre_savage said:

Did you see the jacked up version of Ultron in the new Avengers movie? When he crashed their party and all that? I think he was limping and had one arm.

...that's how Tony and Rhodey should look, except for the fact that they'd be inside the suit, still missing a limb, limping around, until they die of blood loss.

...oh, and that's JUST from Zod...using one hand...while Superman is engaging in, relations with Lois.

Savage.

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Does the OP pic of Superman remind anyone else of Shrek?

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Zod solos... Can't the Kryptonians just heat vision through the armors?

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@jedixman said:

War Machine doesn't add anything to this fight; he can easily be one-shot.

Team 2 stomps, with potential for either one to solo. The Hulkbuster doesn't have the feats to react to blitzing attacks.

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The Hulkbuster was durable and strong; it wasn't fast. The Kryptonians are far faster than the Hulkbuster.

This.

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@christianrapper: hulkbuster could put up a good fight and with war machine distracting they could possibly win 2-3/10 against just one of then

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Kryptonians Literally Undress them. The only thing that can beat Kryptonians from Marvel MCU is Vision, Scarlet Witch and Space Gem Ronan.

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#29  Edited By WastelandMan

@jedixman said:

War Machine doesn't add anything to this fight; he can easily be one-shot.

Team 2 stomps, with potential for either one to solo. The Hulkbuster doesn't have the feats to react to blitzing attacks.

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The Hulkbuster was durable and strong; it wasn't fast. The Kryptonians are far faster than the Hulkbuster.

Kryptonians win but Hulkbuster can certainly tag Zod and Supes. Honestly, show me some actual reaction feats from the Kryptonians. Being able to bullrush will only get you so far and isn't a reaction feat.

War Machine doesn't add too much to the fight, but he doesn't get one-shotted. He's about on par with one of Tony's old suits which can survive a barrage of missiles:

Whenever MoS characters are involved you always seem to overrate them. Spreading falsehoods is wrong even if the conclusion is right.

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Zod and Kal solo.

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#31 JediXMan  Moderator

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@jedixman said:

War Machine doesn't add anything to this fight; he can easily be one-shot.

Team 2 stomps, with potential for either one to solo. The Hulkbuster doesn't have the feats to react to blitzing attacks.

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The Hulkbuster was durable and strong; it wasn't fast. The Kryptonians are far faster than the Hulkbuster.

Kryptonians win but Hulkbuster can certainly tag Zod and Supes. Honestly, show me some actual reaction feats from the Kryptonians. Being able to bullrush will only get you so far and isn't a reaction feat.

I never said he couldn't. I said that he cannot react to them. They are far faster than he is.

@m_man said:

War Machine doesn't add too much to the fight, but he doesn't get one-shotted. He's about on par with one of Tony's old suits which can survive a barrage of missiles:

Is that why Killian was one-shotting suits left and right? He easily tore through all of Tony's advanced suits.

Superman's heat vision is more than capable for the job:

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Whenever MoS characters are involved you always seem to overrate them. Spreading falsehoods is wrong even if the conclusion is right.

It is your opinion that I "overrate" them, and it is your opinion that I spread falsehoods. Doesn't make it true, and making such statements in an attempt to undermine my comments does not make your argument any better.

MoS characters are severely underrated, and MCU characters (specifically ones like Thor, Hulk, and Tony - not so much for Cap) get overrated.

Superman and Zod survived a violent reentry without any damage whatsoever. They were tossed through multiple buildings without a scratch. As much as people like to claim that MoS characters are weak by talking about the one right in Smallville, they forget the higher durability feats. Not once, in the entire movie, did Superman or Zod actually take visible damage to their bodies or clothes, until Zod's neck was snapped - the force required to do so made a shockwave.

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#32  Edited By Hocko1999_VIRUS

The Kryptonians would sandwich Hulkbuster into aluminum foil, and if War Machine tries pretending not to be useless then Supes and Zod will double tag-team that slore.

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#33  Edited By WastelandMan

@jedixman:

I never said he couldn't. I said that he cannot react to them. They are far faster than he is.

Yeah, in travel speed sure.

Is that why Killian was one-shotting suits left and right? He easily tore through all of Tony's advanced suits.

Saying their armor isn't durable because it can get cut in half by Killian is like saying movie wolverine's adamantium isn't durable because it got cut by Silver Samurai's sword.....both were superheated attacks.

Superman's heat vision is more than capable for the job:

Sure, but by using his HV in any significant amount for just a couple of seconds it caused him to require time to recover:

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Not to mention Iron Man's Hulk buster armor is several feet thick with multiple layers of armor. Why would any of the Iron Men let that happen when they can fly away at Mach speeds, a speed at which I've never seen Clark tag with HV. Killian's attack were point blank while Supes' heat vision is ranged and requires him to aim it.

It is your opinion that I "overrate" them, and it is your opinion that I spread falsehoods. Doesn't make it true, and making such statements in an attempt to undermine my comments does not make your argument any better.

......of course it's my opinion. When did I say it wasn't??? Isn't everything being posted here an opinion?

MoS characters are severely underrated, and MCU c haracters (specifically ones like Thor, Hulk, and Tony - not so much for Cap) get overrated.

Those are your opinions. See how pointless and unproductive it is to point that out?

Superman and Zod survived a violent reentry without any damage whatsoever.

They're flight defies gravity, so.....

They were tossed through multiple buildings without a scratch.

Cool. Hulkbuster tanked an entire skyraper collapsing on top of them. Tops anything MoS team has tanked.

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Meanwhile MoS and Zod ran (or flew) away from a skyscraper falling on them:

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As much as people like to claim that MoS characters are weak by talking about the one right in Smallville,

Who are the people that do this?? Who is underrating them? Who's saying they're weak?? I've seen people say MoS is on par with his comic counterpart here on the Vine at least twice by different people and, more recently, someone saying he can one-shot Iron Man/War Machine.

they forget the higher durability feats. Not once, in the entire movie, did Superman or Zod actually take visible damage to their bodies or clothes, until Zod's neck was snapped - the force required to do so made a shockwave.

And you seem to have forgotten Hulkbusters.

Look, I already said they'd win but you're lowballing the Iron Men. If you believe MoS is underrated, then underrating more characters doesn't solve the problem. The truth should stand on its own merits.

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#34  Edited By Heatblaze

@jedixman: Shouldn't this be locked? It seems like a mismatch.