Hulk Vs. X-Men

Hulk

X-Men (Pre-Schism)

Cyclops

Wolverine (Healing Factor)

Storm

Colossus

Beast

Gambit

Archangel

Scenario 1

Win by death or knockout

No prep

Morals on

Savage Hulk

Both sides start 1 mile apart

Scenario 2

Win by death or knockout

3 hours of prep for the X-Men only

Morals on

Savage Hulk

Both sides start 1 mile apart

Scenario 3

Win by death or knockout

No prep

Bloodlust on

Savage Hulk

Both sides start 1 mile apart

Setting

Who wins?

If the X-Men team isn't enough I'll add more members.

Depends on how mad hulk got. If he didn't get mad then it will be a fair fight but.. if they got hulk mad then Godstomp

I can only see Hulk winning round 1, the other two going to X-men

Going with the X-Men.

X-Men

Scenario 1: could go either way

Scenario 2: advantage X-men

Scenario 3: Hulk

Archangel solos. Hahahaha... no, really, X-Men win via eventual adamantium-through-the-brains.

X- men first 2. Hulk 3rd

Hulk...

Hulk in every round here, hes done far better

@green_skaar: agreed

If this Archangel has his DAS feats then he wins this for the team since this isn't the most powerful incarnation of Hulk. If not, didn't WWH say to Colossus he is Savage Hulk's equal? If so, the team might pull some wins.

Storm has already battered Savage Hulk with her winds and shut his mind down twice when he was possessed by Onslaught I see no reason the same tactic couldn't be used her.

If Hulk is allowed to become angrier than just his savage-self, I give it to Hulk in a good fight. If not, the X-men win.

X-men can win all 3 rounds.

I suspect it would go something like that.

Hulk wins every fight.

@baltoro: It was WWHulk.

It also can go like that, thanks to element of suprise Cyclops can give to Colos:

Gallery

There was another battle that Hulk won, but Colos didn't have help from other X-Men.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/10/108342/2181778-955005_colossusvsabomination3_super.jpg

I can't find the comic in which X-Men fought with him, but I belive it was off panel.

Also Wolverine currently won with Hulk in Savage Wolverine #5 or 6 (I AM NOT SAYING THAT LOGAN WILL SOLO, just that it is possible, so with help of others here he should be able to use similar attack here).

My conclusions:

R1:X-Men

R2:X-Men fairy easily.

R3:Depends on how Storm will attack him. IIRC, she alread - with help (she has it here) KOd Hulk.

I'm leaning more toward the X-men for all three scenarios.

Hulk wins all 3 7/10.

Who cares what Hulk they are fighting initially? Savage Hulk can become World War Hulk (level) if you get him mad enough. Then he resumes punching X-Men to New Jersey and Connecticut like when they ACTUALLY fought in the comic.

Hulk needs extreme emotional trauma to reach World Breaker heights of power............................................................................................................

It matters because a specific version of the Hulk was named for this battle. When specified, that is the version we use.

Regardless, it won't be easy, but I'll back the X-Men for all three rounds until convinced otherwise.

He needed it the first time, but made the transition much easier later.

I know, but just don't think Hulk will be leaping into World Breaker levels of power in a random fight without some catalyst if you know what I mean.

Yeah, the catalyst will be a bunch of X-men beating on him. None of those X-Men manipulate gamma radiation so they won't be able to limit him to Savage Hulk levels. He'll get slashed a few times then pick up from where he left off in WWH:

He wasn't anywhere near World Breaker levels and he manhandled them like children.

@baltoro: Are you trolling?

Wolverine and Beast are irrelevant for the battle, sinse here is no PIS. Of course if this was WWH, he could only be BFRed by Storm or being fought by amped versions of Gambit, Archangel and Colossus. Actually it could be very interesting. But, no amped versions needed against the Savage Hulk.

Oh yes, Wolverine is relevant to the battle.

@wolverine08:

Yeah and what is he going to do?

Agreed. Outside of WW/WB, Wolverine has always been a factor to Hulk.

@adamtrmm: The obvious. Stab Hulk and tank his hits.

Yikes, Logan still has bad memories from that little run in with World War Hulk :D

@wolverine08:

As I said, without PIS he shouldn't have 'tanked' above 100 toner's hits, ever.

@adamtrmm: Just because you don't like it does not mean it's PIS. Wolverine has been tanking class 100+ hits for a longtime now due to the combination of the healing factor and adamantium skeleton. It's not plot induced stupidity in the slightest mate.

@wolverine08:

Healing factor does not increase his durability, his brain is still vulnerable to powerful blows right to his skull, which was perfectly exploited by that WWH story writer, it's like saying that CA faced his only equals because he was never squashed under his shield when he protects himself with it 'tanking' hits/blasts from powerhouses, which is a clear PIS but it's a tradition, so 'irrelevant' stuff like logic are being overlooked to make another 'cool' showing like this. The exact idea of Wolverine not getting humiliated by 100 toners, when he clearly should get punched into oblivion, is not being biased against him, just a simple logic mate.

CA shield is made from vibranium so it absorbs/redirects most of the kinetic energy directed at him, so it's not totally absurd he hasn't been squashed yet blocking blows.

I have no problem with Wolverine tanking blows from class-100 folks since he's been doing it for decades now. Beyond his natural durability, his adimantium skeleton and healing factor, his combat reflexes helps him minimize damage from blows even if he doesn't totally avoid them. Also keep in mind characters aren't always throwing everything they have behind every punch.

@adamtrmm: The healing factor almost instantaneously heals any damage dealt at him through blunt force trauma. Which is what class 100+ foes give to Wolverine when they throw punches at him. Then you also have that unbreakable adamantium skeleton that redistributes impact brought upon him. What World War Hulk did to Wolverine is inconsequential to this battle at hand since we are using Savage Hulk, who has a large power disparity between. You even strength by point by bringing up World War Hulk since James tanked about 7 blows before he went unconscious. Even then, he was back reeving to go in a few pages. Hulk took out James via blunt force trauma due to being muchmore powerful than usual, and not letting Jame's brain heal by constantly bashing his head. Wolverine tanking class 100+ hits isn't plot induced stupidity. People on here use that term far too loosely to discredit feats that they just don't like. PIS is showings that contradict a character's consistent showings and abilities for the sake of plot. PIS is the 1 tonner Captain America beating up Namor. Wolverine has been consistently shown over the years to have a power set that lets him tank blows from Hulk. Key word, consistent.You not liking how durable Wolverine does not in any way make it PIS.

The exact idea of Wolverine not getting humiliated by 100 toners, when he clearly should get punched into oblivion, is not being biased against him, just a simple logic mate.

You're not going to get too far trying to put logic into a healing factor.

Good point there.

Couldn't Hulk just punched them to different countries? He has done it before, what's stopping here for getting rid of them and solo them 1 by 1 afterwards?

Oh nvm, the would all die, leaving the all mighty Wolvie Vs. Hulk again.

@green_skaar:

I see what you mean, though they still shouldn't tank what they already have without being KOed to many times. Do you think Wolvie should be able to actaully stab beings THIS durable, acknowledging his claws are not vibranium, and the fact they are adamantium doesn't automatically mean he can accomplish the stab, because he doesn't have the strength behind it?

I suppose it depends on just how sharp the claws are. The sharper the points, the less pressure needed to be exerted. Wolverine has had trouble piercing/scratching durable folks in some cases. Thor has had just minor scratches after one of his encounters and Wolverine has noted that Hulk has become harder and harder to pierce as his durability went up with anger. In fact in Wolverine's first fight with Hulk he couldn't pierce him at all, this later changed however.

Or toss them one by one to the moon! ;-)

Comic book writers could care less about physics.

What is Wolverine's upper strength limit by the way? Sometimes you just need to be "strong enough" not as stronger or stronger to accomplish a task.

He's a 2 ton low level superhuman. Then you have to factor in that with all the times that James has run into Hulk, he probably knows exactly how to cut him.

Thanks and good point. Styles make fights, as well as experience.

@wolverine08:

I told I'm not biased, why do you keep repeating that? :) we're talking about street leveler agaist the powerhouse here that's the main point.

@green_skaar:

Ok, thanks for the points I still think he shouldn't be a factor :)