#1 Edited by MikeHezekiah (28 posts) - - Show Bio

<p>Just hear me out okay, this is different I swear....</p><p>This is World breaker hulk that fought red she-hulk in the dark dimension</p><p>This is the new 52 superman that bench pressed the Earth multiple times</p><p>No BFR</p><p>No Speed Blitz</p><p>No flight</p><p>Both are blood lusted</p><p>Fight to the death</p><p>Fight takes place on titan, the moon of Saturn - just making it interesting btw this titan is indestructible</p><figure data-align="left" data-size="medium" data-img-src="http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145266/2973799-2663768-sm_13_1.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-2973799" data-resize-url="" data-resized="" data-embed-type="image"><a href="http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145266/2973799-2663768-sm_13_1.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-2973799"><img src="http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/14/145266/2973799-2663768-sm_13_1.jpg"></a></figure><figure data-align="left" data-size="medium" data-img-src="http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145266/2973802-hulk-019.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-2973802" data-resize-url="" data-resized="" data-embed-type="image"><a href="http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145266/2973802-hulk-019.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-2973802"><img src="http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/14/145266/2973802-hulk-019.jpg"></a></figure><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>vs</p><p> </p><p> </p>

Superman is not allowed to use his speed in any way

#2 Posted by theONEtaichou (1462 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna go with the Last Son of Krypton

#3 Edited by AllStarSuperman (15967 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

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#4 Edited by Mysterioz (602 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman loses

no Solar energy on Titan.

#5 Edited by uberhikari (1854 posts) - - Show Bio

What feats does New 52 Superman have to compare with WBH?! None that I'm aware of. Bench pressing the weight of the Earth for 5 days is impressive...but that's not a striking strength feat.

#6 Posted by New_World_Order (11213 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk is too slow.

#7 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhikari: Heres a speed feat of him Flying from pluto to earth while Red Hood and company were teleporting there.

As for striking power during his fight with He'l he struck him so hard the force was felt from the center of the earth to the JL Watch tower in space.

#8 Posted by Soothing_Sounds (1718 posts) - - Show Bio

@cerberusprime3k: Dude Hulk collided with his wife and not only destroyed the planet they were on, but a moon off to the side. And even though that was also a result of the gamma radiation, Hulk's striking power is still technically better than Supes. (At least by comparing feats)

#9 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@soothing_sounds: I doubt that N52 supes striking power is planet shattering like his previous incarnation(s) or even close to WBH however, I think Superman can win this if he utilizes his superior speed.

#10 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk.

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#12 Edited by NeonGameWave (7216 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk.

#13 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2638 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk.

#14 Posted by spidermanandsuperman (259 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk

#15 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikehezekiah: I suppose I prefer to evaluate proposed battles with PIS off, each character bloodlusted, because it eliminates a lot of hulla-baloo about nothing.

Superman. Here's why. Depending on what camp you're in, Superman moves at close to, or just over the speed of light. Essentially, that makes Hulk a statue and absolutely incapable of retaliating against Superman. Superman, with enough strength bench-press far more than planet earth, rains hundreds of earth shattering blows on the Hulk before he even knows what hits him.

Hulk loses by knock out.

Very easy win for Superman.

#16 Posted by SwordandShields (710 posts) - - Show Bio

Not again. To make a thread like this you need to limit some of supes powers like his speed. once that's limited then the fight becomes fair. anyways good try but Superman wins.

#17 Edited by PowerHerc (78172 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins.

Just like always.

#18 Posted by celtic (776 posts) - - Show Bio

OP said no speed blitz

Hulk wins

#19 Posted by Batman242 (4835 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can't speed blitz, but that doesn't mean he can't use his speed as an advantage.

#20 Posted by russellmania77 (13635 posts) - - Show Bio

i would more fear an angry bloodlusted superman than hulk

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#21 Posted by catofellow (248 posts) - - Show Bio

How long can Hulk survive without Oxygen currently?

#22 Edited by M_Man (347 posts) - - Show Bio

Saying Superman wins by hitting Hulk with a bunch of planet shattering hits at light speed is ludicrous even for superman, and especially considering this is the New 52 Superman. I doubt Superman can hit at full force without gaining momentum or faltering his speed.

I'd agree Superman wins if this was regular Hulk but this is WBH. He emits and, I believe, has complete control over his gamma radiation which is actually as fast as the speed of light. And it is believed that gamma ray burst are the most powerful explosions possible. He can create a gamma explosion that can destroy a planet and is engulfed by it, doubt supes can dodge that. This is something I don't think much people take into consideration, possibly because supes is more popular :\

I think this is essentially a WBH stomp.

#23 Posted by dondave (27183 posts) - - Show Bio

Even with these restrictions Superman can still dodge all of Hulk's punches, but if he didn't I'd say he could be knocked by WBH

#24 Edited by God_Spawn (36002 posts) - - Show Bio

While the WBH feat in the Dark Iimension was very impressive, people seem to forget the planet was also ridiculously tiny to begin with and a common omitting that he did it in conjunction with Betty and a lot of it had to do with their energy projection as well, not just physical force. Now since that is thrown out there, I'll just watch this thread closely so it doesn't become a war zone or wait to get attacked by fans telling me off and one of three interpretations on how the feat "really" goes and let it all slide because quite frankly, I just don't give a f*ck.

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#25 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (10240 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can't use speed blitz attacks, can't fly, can't remove Hulk from the battlefield. Since he still has super speed as well as all other powers, Hulk still can't touch him. Too slow, as usual, a blood lusted Superman shook the world and sent vibrations so far into the atmosphere that they were felt from the Watchtower, just by punching H'el ...

#26 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1170 posts) - - Show Bio

Im gonna say superman cuz of his recent striking feats in #17

I really wanna read that dark dimension issue though is it collected anywhere or can someone pls tell me the specific issue iv seen scans but I wanna read the entire thing.

#27 Posted by MikeHezekiah (28 posts) - - Show Bio

His radiation moves at the speed of light, I don't see how superman could use his speed against that :)

#28 Posted by MikeHezekiah (28 posts) - - Show Bio

@UltimateSMfan the comic is called the heart of the monster rampage of world breaker hulk :)

#29 Posted by Doomnaut (1971 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm really getting sick of all the Hulk Vs. Superman threads.

#30 Posted by dum529001 (1577 posts) - - Show Bio

@doomnaut said:

I'm really getting sick of all the Hulk Vs. Superman threads.

So say we all!

#31 Posted by SlimJ87D (8955 posts) - - Show Bio

I wrote a blog on WBH here. People need to understand WBH because a lot of people don't.

http://www.comicvine.com/hulk/4005-2267/forums/world-breaker-hulk-the-immortal-iron-hulk-1453197/#16

Here's a small preview it it.

Just by powering up in this state you can see the devastation and collateral damage it causes. This is the reason why WWH never uses this power, because of the dangers it holds. But don’t think he can't summon this power when he wants as he did above and he did so again later.

Above, you can see him telling Doctor Strange that he’s going to cut loose and use this power again. What happens? Red She Hulk and WWH trade a blow that indirectly blows up a planet. Indirectly meaning they didn’t even need to touch the planet, the explosion was caused by the gamma energized sonic boom from their blow.

The special thing to note above is that collateral damage didn’t happen when he used his WBH powers. This is the most interesting part to me as he unleashed and channeled that power when he traded the blow with Red She Hulk. It makes me curios to see if in the future through training if WWH could actually channel and use this energy just like the Iron Fist. I highly doubt it though as it would make him overpowered than he already is.

But with that being said, I want you to walk out of here and speculate how powerful WBH’s strikes are. Imagine if Iron Fist had a strength rating and durability rating of 7 and his energy projectile is at a 5 rating. That is World Breaker Hulk right there, the Immortal Iron Hulk.

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#33 Posted by Mattersuit (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman. Just as always.

#34 Posted by jashro44 (16462 posts) - - Show Bio

While the WBH feat in the Dark Iimension was very impressive, people seem to forget the planet was also ridiculously tiny to begin with and a common omitting that he did it in conjunction with Betty and a lot of it had to do with their energy projection as well, not just physical force. Now since that is thrown out there, I'll just watch this thread closely so it doesn't become a war zone or wait to get attacked by fans telling me off and one of three interpretations on how the feat "really" goes and let it all slide because quite frankly, I just don't give a f*ck.

I would have to reread heart of the monster again but which issue was the size of the planet stated?

#35 Posted by dondave (27183 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#36 Posted by debeze (243 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk wins easly

#37 Edited by jashro44 (16462 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is way to fast for the hulk. Nothing really matters if hulk can't even touch superman.

#38 Posted by Inconvenient_Truth (2362 posts) - - Show Bio

if you strip his speed and flight that would leave superman with advantages in heat vision, freeze breath, reaction time, xray vision to find him, and strength and durability an advantage for hulk as new 52 is still at what 20 issues? no where near enough feats to base it off of

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#40 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3460 posts) - - Show Bio

While the WBH feat in the Dark Iimension was very impressive, people seem to forget the planet was also ridiculously tiny to begin with and a common omitting that he did it in conjunction with Betty and a lot of it had to do with their energy projection as well, not just physical force. Now since that is thrown out there, I'll just watch this thread closely so it doesn't become a war zone or wait to get attacked by fans telling me off and one of three interpretations on how the feat "really" goes and let it all slide because quite frankly, I just don't give a f*ck.

Thank you, people seem to forget that a lot was going on when the planet was destroyed. You speak to the average Hulk fan and they make it seem as if Hulk just hit the ground by himself and destroyed a planet the size of Jupiter.

#42 Posted by Erick_Williams (718 posts) - - Show Bio

You depowered superman too much, hulk the angrier he gets is more difficult to predict

#43 Posted by Clark_EL (2177 posts) - - Show Bio

Kal_EL from Krypton

#44 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

NO SPEED BLITZ = NO SUPERMAN

#45 Edited by GhostRavage (7600 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll say, the only factor that gives Superman the victory in all his fights against Hulk is his speed. And let's be reasonable, Superman its insanely fast, its not even fun to put him against characters that can't keep up with him. However, Superman isn't allowed to use his speed > In any way< as stated in the OP. That means, no speedblitzing, no vibrating to intangibility and no quick recharge to the sun. With this said, i can't see Superman winning in this thread, to be honest, i think this would be a stomp on Hulks favor. We can assume that by the feat of benching the earths weight 5 days in a row; Superman has planet busting strikes but, we've also managed to see WBH striking power its just insanely powerful. If Hulk's strength became that enhanced while in WBH, i can imagine his durability its also insanely enhanced as well... So, im pretty sure planet busting punches would do nothing on WBH, and in this situation Superman isn't able to recharge nor become stronger, he's pretty much screwed up.

While the WBH feat in the Dark Iimension was very impressive, people seem to forget the planet was also ridiculously tiny to begin with and a common omitting that he did it in conjunction with Betty and a lot of it had to do with their energy projection as well, not just physical force. Now since that is thrown out there, I'll just watch this thread closely so it doesn't become a war zone or wait to get attacked by fans telling me off and one of three interpretations on how the feat "really" goes and let it all slide because quite frankly, I just don't give a f*ck.

Can you upload the scan where the size of the planet was stated please, im really curious. :D

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#46 Posted by Pokeysteve (7058 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman loses

no Solar energy on Titan.

His now infamous 5 day Earth weight bench press was done with no solar radiation. And why do you think it doesn't get sunlight!?

#47 Posted by MasterKungFu (120 posts) - - Show Bio

judging from the OP u wanted hulk to beat superman. unfortunately superman still beats hulk.