Hulk vs Multiple Man

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So, Hulk versus Multiple Man. Who wins? Will the Hulk run out of rage and burn out before Madrox runs out of duplicates (which are automatically spawned subconsciously through impact when he absorbs excess kinetic energy)?

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#2  Edited By RealityWarper

Hulk :o

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Hulk :o

But every time he smashes one Multiple Man, he'll be spawning several new dupes in the process.It's kind of like a battle between you and an ant- except that a dozen new ants are spawned instantaneously each and every time that you squish one of them. Who's going to win in the end- you, or that swarm of ants?

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This will be ongoing forever depending on the writer. Multiple Man could potentially just tire Hulk out. Depends on how smart Hulk is.

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The real question is attrition. Although MM would be able to stand for a while, the accumulated sharing of damage would do Jamie in before Hulk would tire. I like the concept, but Hulk has this in the bag.

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Hulk won't tire out, he'll just get madder and madder.

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@sundeep said:

@realitywarper said:

Hulk :o

But every time he smashes one Multiple Man, he'll be spawning several new dupes in the process.It's kind of like a battle between you and an ant- except that a dozen new ants are spawned instantaneously each and every time that you squish one of them. Who's going to win in the end- you, or that swarm of ants?

He can just grab them one by one and squishes them.
They have no mean to harm him.
It is a one way battle.

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The real question is attrition. Although MM would be able to stand for a while, the accumulated sharing of damage would do Jamie in before Hulk would tire. I like the concept, but Hulk has this in the bag.

The accumulated sharing of diluted damage only happens if the duplicates are reabsorbed by MM- as least, if we're simply talking about physical damage. Psychologically though, yeah, he'll probably be reduced to the diaper-wearing, drooling lunatic that he was in the Age of Apocalypse continuity by the combined trauma of all of those deaths before Hulk gets tired, burns out and transforms back into Bruce Banner. But even in this event, even if Jamie Madrox ends up brain-dead and in an unending coma- unless he sends out the order to kill them all off, his duplicates would still be alive and duplicating, in a position where they could still potentially pull off the win. So, if Jamie Madrox himself is effectively left all-but-dead after the battle, but the remaining Madri eventually manage to pull off the win and defeat the Hulk/Bruce Banner, would it still count as a win for MM?

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Hulk won't tire out, he'll just get madder and madder.

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#11  Edited By SunDeep

@realitywarper said:

@sundeep said:

@realitywarper said:

Hulk :o

But every time he smashes one Multiple Man, he'll be spawning several new dupes in the process.It's kind of like a battle between you and an ant- except that a dozen new ants are spawned instantaneously each and every time that you squish one of them. Who's going to win in the end- you, or that swarm of ants?

He can just grab them one by one and squishes them.

They have no mean to harm him.

It is a one way battle.

If Hulk thinks that way, then he's either going to lose, stalemate when he gets bored and walks away, or get progressively madder and madder at the innumerable numbers of Multiple Men he's spawning by squishing them one-by-one squishing until he builds up enough strength to destroy the entire planet. Either that or The Wendigo wins by possessing him, when he squishes one of them too close to his mouth (headbutting?), inadvertently spawning a dupe or two inside his own digestive tract, which he ends up cannibalising by mistake...

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@sundeep:

There is a limit to how many clones he can make, the clones are all alternate MM. Eventually he will run out of clones. Besides the fact that the smarter Hulks like Professor Hulk, Banner Controlled Hulk, Doc Green, etc will just simply toss MM into outer space and be done with him.

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@sundeep:

There is a limit to how many clones he can make, the clones are all alternate MM. Eventually he will run out of clones. Besides the fact that the smarter Hulks like Professor Hulk, Banner Controlled Hulk, Doc Green, etc will just simply toss MM into outer space and be done with him.

There is a limit- to how many clones he can make simultaneously, without suffering mental trauma. And in current continuity, that limit's now been vastly increased to an unestablished amount, and may potentially now be limitless. But yeah, the latter option may work- to be done with the original MM, Jamie Madrox. But doing so would also subject Madrox to an immense amount of kinetic energy, both from the force of the launching throw/blow itself and the atmospheric shockwave on his way out into space. Hulk would still be left fighting a vast army of Multiple Men, spawned around him on the ground by the toss, and spawned along the entire length of Madrox's contrail into space, raining down out of the sky continuously for hours...

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Hulk very gently snaps madroxs neck

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@sun
It's not like Naruto, he doesn't control his clones. A lot of his clones would just turn tail and run, unless you're making them bloodlusted or something. It's been debated that if the original dies all of the clones die. @dextersinister is an expert, you can ask him.

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#16  Edited By SunDeep

Hulk very gently snaps madroxs neck

If Madrox can spawn duplicates himself from an impact as gentle as the snapping of his own fingers, then it's hard to see how Hulk could possibly snap his neck any more gently than that. Does the Hulk have any attacks which won't deal vast amounts of kinetic energy and spawn more dupes- radiation-based, for example?

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#17 juiceboks  Moderator

Sooo..is there any proof Jamie can clone himself indefinitely?

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@lukehero said:

@sun

It's not like Naruto, he doesn't control his clones. A lot of his clones would just turn tail and run, unless you're making them bloodlusted or something. It's been debated that if the original dies all of the clones die. @dextersinister is an expert, you can ask him.

Well, that's a fair point. There's no reason why Madrox's clones would inherently be fanatically bloodthirsty or suicidal enough to drown the Hulk with their bodies (although, to drop a reference, the AoA Madri certainly would have been).There would probably come a point where the MM army's resolve breaks and the remaining dupes run for the hills; and that's likely to be before the Hulk gets tired. However, could Bruce Banner's repulsion and objection to the seemingly never-ending slaughter lead to the Hulk reverting to Banner's form and concede defeat that way? Or could the fight effectively be stalemated by the Hulk getting bored/disgusted himself and leaping away (Eugh, puny paste of pureed Multiple Men staining Hulk's pants, flecks flying everywhere and leaving bad taste in Hulks' mouth. Hulk not fighting Multiple Man any more...)?

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#19  Edited By SunDeep

Sooo..is there any proof Jamie can clone himself indefinitely?

He's the only one who can reabsorb his clones. But the clones can spawn additional clones themselves- and while Jamie Madrox himself suffers mental trauma when any of his clones die, the other clones don't. So, while Jamie Madrox can't clone himself indefinitely without eventually being left brain-dead by the ordeal, the comics do seem to indicate that The Madri, his clones themselves, potentially could be capable of cloning themselves indefinitely (until the last of them dies naturally of old age, of course.)

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#20  Edited By Noone301994

Thunderclap ftw

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#21 juiceboks  Moderator

@sundeep: I don't necessarily agree with that assumption, just because his clones don't feel the mental strain the original does (which actually makes a lot of sense) doesn't mean they can keep cloning till they die. You're basically saying the only thing keeping Jamie from cloning himself to infinity is the mental fatigue that comes with it, but that's still a theory you made up not what's been stated. And since there's no definitive proof he or his clones can do what you're suggesting, there's no reason why we should just assume so.

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@sundeep: However, could Bruce Banner's repulsion and objection to the seemingly never-ending slaughter lead to the Hulk reverting to Banner's form and concede defeat that way? Or could the fight effectively be stalemated by the Hulk getting bored/disgusted himself and leaping away (Eugh, puny paste of pureed Multiple Men staining Hulk's pants, flecks flying everywhere and leaving bad taste in Hulks' mouth. Hulk not fighting Multiple Man any more...)?

Standard Hulk? Maybe, current Hulk(Doc Green) Nope. But, even with Standard Hulk he doesn't have to kill them to beat them, he can just keep tossing them into the air or keep knocking them out. Or thunder clap them into submission, without killing them.

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#23  Edited By DaLastUchihaMan

Stalemate

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I brought back a thread that was created 5 years ago. Anyways, they are all humans so Hulk thunder claps.

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Hulk.

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I brought back a thread that was created 5 years ago. Anyways, they are all humans so Hulk thunder claps.

Maybe you should stop doing that since it's against the rules, while you are going around doing it purposefully with multiple other threads.

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Hulk stomps. A thunder clap could kill all of them.

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Hulk gives them a standing ovation

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Hulk stomps. A thunder clap could kill all of them.

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Hulk smashes