ok this is subject is so talked about its untrue,my angle is who wins in a fist fight when they both only have a pair of pants on,ie normal clothes,no armour for juggs,does this change the battle or make any difference ???? juggs is standard version,hulk is wwhulk version.
Current Juggs will lose. He's not respected as his old days, Marvel hasn't been treating him well.
I wonder how he will be treated in the new Thunderbolts comic since he has been confirmed in the next roster along with Crossbones... CROSSBONES! Trying to redeem himself? that sounds stupid to me...
" Current Juggs will lose. He's not respected as his old days, Marvel hasn't been treating him well. I wonder how he will be treated in the new Thunderbolts comic since he has been confirmed in the next roster along with Crossbones... CROSSBONES! Trying to redeem himself? that sounds stupid to me... "
Yes, Marvel is being rather mean to Juggs here. Compared to his old glory days he's pretty much now known as the Jobbernaught.
" Current Juggs will lose. He's not respected as his old days, Marvel hasn't been treating him well. I wonder how he will be treated in the new Thunderbolts comic since he has been confirmed in the next roster along with Crossbones... CROSSBONES! Trying to redeem himself? that sounds stupid to me... "
What? He just went toe to toe with WWH and more then held his own... until he went into the ocean. And have you read spiderman 629?
I will admit they use him for crap. They like to show off new characters by going against the juggernaut. But he has still shown that nobody can stop him, for long...
Yeah, he went toe to toe with Hulk for like a few seconds in both encounters. In Spider-man and the INcrdible Hulk, Marvel opened up a new weakness to him stating that as long as his feet aren't touching the ground he can get owned.
That's exactly what I'm trying to say, Juggernaut with respect (Glory days) >>> Juggernaut without respect (as of lately)
He's almost used as cannon fodder for other high levelers to show how strong they are now a days. He shouldn't be treated like so but since the abomination is dead, they have no one else to potentially use as a cannon fodder high leveler to express how strong these new high levelers or what ever are.
@Jake Fury: Yep, I read it. I was just referring to his weakness to telepaths until he finds another trashcan to put on his head (Powered By The Amazing Powers of Cyttorak!)
" Current Juggs will lose. He's not respected as his old days, Marvel hasn't been treating him well. I wonder how he will be treated in the new Thunderbolts comic since he has been confirmed in the next roster along with Crossbones... CROSSBONES! Trying to redeem himself? that sounds stupid to me... "
What? He just went toe to toe with WWH and more then held his own... until he went into the ocean. And have you read spiderman 629? I will admit they use him for crap. They like to show off new characters by going against the juggernaut. But he has still shown that nobody can stop him, for long...
He still lost to World War Hulk. His punches looked ineffective on Hulk and if Hulk got a bit stronger he would have punched Juggernaut to a different state for a BFR win anyways. He might beat regular Hulk though since he gives up quicker than his WWH counterpart.
" Current Juggs will lose. He's not respected as his old days, Marvel hasn't been treating him well. I wonder how he will be treated in the new Thunderbolts comic since he has been confirmed in the next roster along with Crossbones... CROSSBONES! Trying to redeem himself? that sounds stupid to me... "
What? He just went toe to toe with WWH and more then held his own... until he went into the ocean. And have you read spiderman 629? I will admit they use him for crap. They like to show off new characters by going against the juggernaut. But he has still shown that nobody can stop him, for long...
He still lost to World War Hulk. His punches looked ineffective on Hulk and if Hulk got a bit stronger he would have punched Juggernaut to a different state for a BFR win anyways. He might beat regular Hulk though since he gives up quicker than his WWH counterpart.
Juggernaut was winning that fight during that dread awful world war hulk event but Charles distracted him as Juggernaut would've ended WWHULK very easy .
" Current Juggs will lose. He's not respected as his old days, Marvel hasn't been treating him well. I wonder how he will be treated in the new Thunderbolts comic since he has been confirmed in the next roster along with Crossbones... CROSSBONES! Trying to redeem himself? that sounds stupid to me... "
What? He just went toe to toe with WWH and more then held his own... until he went into the ocean. And have you read spiderman 629? I will admit they use him for crap. They like to show off new characters by going against the juggernaut. But he has still shown that nobody can stop him, for long...
He still lost to World War Hulk. His punches looked ineffective on Hulk and if Hulk got a bit stronger he would have punched Juggernaut to a different state for a BFR win anyways. He might beat regular Hulk though since he gives up quicker than his WWH counterpart.
Juggernaut was winning that fight during that dread awful world war hulk event but Charles distracted him as Juggernaut would've ended WWHULK very easy .
World War Hulk's healing factor was so amped that the damage Juggs was not substantial. We saw what happened at the end of WWH, his potential was at the World Breaking level. If the fight went on with Juggs and he got to his tectonic plate busting with his footsteps level then Juggs would be getting punched into space by him. Juggs is durable but he's got pillow fists unfortunately.
" Current Juggs will lose. He's not respected as his old days, Marvel hasn't been treating him well. I wonder how he will be treated in the new Thunderbolts comic since he has been confirmed in the next roster along with Crossbones... CROSSBONES! Trying to redeem himself? that sounds stupid to me... "
What? He just went toe to toe with WWH and more then held his own... until he went into the ocean. And have you read spiderman 629? I will admit they use him for crap. They like to show off new characters by going against the juggernaut. But he has still shown that nobody can stop him, for long...
He still lost to World War Hulk. His punches looked ineffective on Hulk and if Hulk got a bit stronger he would have punched Juggernaut to a different state for a BFR win anyways. He might beat regular Hulk though since he gives up quicker than his WWH counterpart.
Juggernaut was winning that fight during that dread awful world war hulk event but Charles distracted him as Juggernaut would've ended WWHULK very easy .
World War Hulk's healing factor was so amped that the damage Juggs was not substantial. We saw what happened at the end of WWH, his potential was at the World Breaking level. If the fight went on with Juggs and he got to his tectonic plate busting with his footsteps level then Juggs would be getting punched into space by him. Juggs is durable but he's got pillow fists unfortunately.
Hulk would probably win. I think this because Juggernaut really only has the armor and if he doesn't have that he is screwed. So there is one point then the other is that Hulk can probably break Juggernaut's armor then Hulk smashes hi through a wall and keeps attacking him until he dies. Know if we look at how Juggernaut could beat Hulk it basically is only his hands legs and head going for him. So he could probably just hit Hulk in the head and then you just get Hulk to go rage and kill Juggernaut so there you have it!
one has physical vulnerability and the other heals faster than u could hurt him (maybe not so fast but he is pretty damn fast) + gets stronger the angrier he gets.
one has physical vulnerability and the other heals faster than u could hurt him (maybe not so fast but he is pretty damn fast) + gets stronger the angrier he gets.
Juggernaut can get stronger as well, with rage. Juggernaut is Hulk's superior, actually, he is like Hulk, but only better, he is immune to harm while Hulk is not, and he has healing factor as well. Plus, back in the days Juggernaut displayed a plenty of magic skills. Anyway, it's either a draw or Juggernaut winning in the end. But their fight would probably destroy the whole planet.
@Boobster: Ok cool .. but cyttorack(pardon my spelling) himself is only as powerful as galactus right? so i suppose that at least gives a cap to his utmost powers.
@Boobster: Ok cool .. but cyttorack(pardon my spelling) himself is only as powerful as galactus right? so i suppose that at least gives a cap to his utmost powers.
Jugs wins this. He just keeps being written badly. He can't be stoped. The only ones who did it were Thor and Hulk (powered by some technology that made him War Hulk (not to be confused with WWH)). In the WWH figth between the two, none of them took the uperhand. Juggs was figthing as if he wasn't feeling Hulk's punches. Hulk just tricked him. Used Juggs powers to his own benefit (again more CIS used - we couldn't have Hulk trashed in one of his arcs, rigth?) and "pushed" Juggs into a river or whatever and Juggs couldn't stop running for a while. In a figth with no PIS nor CIS Juggs will win against the Hulk. Only magic can render Juggs to be hurt (or celestial technology - like the one used to power War Huk).
@Boobster: Actualy Cyttorak may be even more powerful than Galactus. Remember that there several Galactus in other dimensions/universes while there only one Cyttorak in all existence. I'm not very familiar with Cyttorak but I heard that he did many impressive things even far beyond anything Galactus did.
@Boobster: Actualy Cyttorak may be even more powerful than Galactus. Remember that there several Galactus in other dimensions/universes while there only one Cyttorak in all existence. I'm not very familiar with Cyttorak but I heard that he did many impressive things even far beyond anything Galactus did.
Cyttorak has done nothing. Galactus would one-shot him.
Cyttorak has many Universes under his own rule and can influence thousands more. Galactus can only influence the 616 Universe. He his an Universal threat. Cyttorak is a multiuniversal threat. Cyttorak is said to be omnipotent in his own domain (of course in the Marvel Universe omnipotency is something meseurable) and Galactus in his full power his not even described like that. Has a character I like more of Galactus but he keeps getting owned by beings that should be way less powerful than he is. It's rather impossible at this time to really measure Cyttorak's powers because he hasn't much feats. But I think we should leave this discussion to a Galactus vs Cyttorak thread.
Cyttorak has many Universes under his own rule and can influence thousands more. Galactus can only influence the 616 Universe. He his an Universal threat. Cyttorak is a multiuniversal threat. Cyttorak is said to be omnipotent in his own domain (of course in the Marvel Universe omnipotency is something meseurable) and Galactus in his full power his not even described like that. Has a character I like more of Galactus but he keeps getting owned by beings that should be way less powerful than he is. It's rather impossible at this time to really measure Cyttorak's powers because he hasn't much feats. But I think we should leave this discussion to a Galactus vs Cyttorak thread.
Cyttorak has never shown to rule universes and was owned by his own avatar plenty of times. Plenty of beings, like Mephisto or Agamotto are omnipotent in their realms, but Galactus still pwns them. Galactus has feats that put to shame most of the abstracts. The reason why he loses is because he is the most "popular" abstract. In fact he can one-shot pretty everyone save for the highest cosmic forces.
Someone needs to lock this Cause it's been done many times Many different ways But until it happens I must step up for my boy
And he's down for the ten count
fro where is this awesome scan
From Hulk #404.
Was that an illusionary Juggernaut? It says he's tearing down the illusion right in the scan. I understand you are a Hulk fan but I need to keep this fair and balanced. I can agree with you that Juggernaut has pillow fists and Hulk hits a lot harder, but if he is invulnerable (fully backed by Cytorrak) Hulk can't just punch him in the stomach and have him collapse. That is just a bad showing there.
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