Standard Versions
Random Encounter
Hulk in his regular state
Jean at full potential
Morals Off
Knockout or Incapitation
@db14: care to explain how she gets past his TP defense? Which could never do before?
Hulk never showed Telepathy-defense on that level.
And before you cite the WWH-incident:
That wasn't Chuck failing, it was more like him stopping because he saw what Hulk endured (him willingly surrendering to Hulk afterwards confirms this).
Hulk has been mindcontroled many times, he is not immune to it.
@db14: lol, it WAS Xavier failing, he almost killed everyone due to the feedback from it.
And he was willing to surrender to hulk the whole time, the x men just kept fighting.
Which was why Hulk screamed out in pain when Xavier entered his mind I assume?
He didn't nearly kill everyone from the feedback, don't make things up, they crumbled because they were shocked about Hulk's experiences.
Not to talk about that Jean fully powered >>>>>> Xavier, and like I said, Hulk has been mindcontrollled many, many times, stop acting like he is completely immune to it.
Also, it's not like TP is Jeans only power, she is also an Omega-Level Telekinetic.
Hulk gets BFR'd anyway.
Because Hulk.
I would normally back Hulk but since the OP does not suggest starting distances. Plus the fact that win by KO is acceptable, Jean wins quite handily.
@thedailybagel: Jean Grey has assaulted Hulk in the past, Cable and Xavier as well. Jean with full potential should deal with Hulk with understandable difficulty.
I could see Jean TP-ing Savage, Grey, and possibly Gravage. TK-ing via BFR too.
I could also see her gettig thunder clapped. Current (young) Jean seems to have a force field manifest (she does her best Terra from FFIII and glows pink) so it would seem she has a good defense to complement her ranged game.
Jean.
Jean Grey. Although Hulk has shown resistance to TP jean would simply be to much. Unless it was world breaker or world war hulk then maybe not.
@ghostravage: I just don't see her doing it before he pummels her
This is a huuuuuuuuuuuge MISMATCH.
Hulk has literally no chance against an Omega-lvl mutant.
Jean would anihilate Hulk's mind easily. Then she would make him turn from Banner to Hulk and from Hulk to Banner all over until the end of times. Or She would just BFR him to the outhere space. Or she would destroy his whole body with telekinesis and throw his part all over the globe. Or she would rip Apart his body and start feeling his arms to him.
Can anyone who is saying Hulk can win with THE PHOENIX give any feat sugesting that a "regular state" Hulk can hurt Jean?
@thedailybagel: Why not? There's nothing suggesting Hulk could take on Dark Phoenix...
@ghostravage: would jean at full potential include the pheonix? Isn't that a seperate entity that inhibits her body?
@thedailybagel: Both are merged and IIRC Jean Grey is the physical incarnation of the Phoenix.
@ghostravage: ahh, my bad then. I assumed that Jeans full potential wouldn't include the pheonix.
@thedailybagel: Yeah, people like Cable, Jean Grey and Nate should be more than able to deal with Hulk in any incarnation if applying full potential.
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@thedailybagel: Yeah, people like Cable, Jean Grey and Nate should be more than able to deal with Hulk in any incarnation if applying full potential.
The hulk expert said , Jean... that is all.
@kalelofsteel: @brutality: @thanosmaniac:
So all three of you are saying Hulk can beat the Phoenix?
Do Jean have to focus to get into someones mind? In that case Hulk rips her apart.. Been years since i read X-men
@leonkarlen123: Jean at full potential= Phoenix...
@jestersmiles: That's not Jean's own power so it doesn't count
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