@heraldofganthet: except... Firestorm doesn't know the chemical composition of Promethium or Adamamantium... meaning he can't make a cage of those materials.
@zhurong: forgive me for responding to a question with another question, but please explain to me how it is? The OP clearly specifies Firestorm cannot directly transmute the Hulk, and this is morals on.
@highaccuser: I'm not sure how Hulk is going to take on a guy on par with Captain Atom in power. This seems like a mismatch.
I haven't seen any feats to put him on par with Captain Atom. I've heard they had fights which Nataniel lost, but holding your own against Captain Atom doesn't really put you above Hulk.
he deprives the hulk of oxygen, and changes the oxygen in the hulks lungs to nitrogen... the hulk passes out, all he has to do is stay out of his reach. turns the ground under his feat an ocean of oil so the hulk falls in and drowns, turns the air around him into solid titanium for a few thousand meters... the list to contain or incapacitate the hulk is almost endless. all he has to do is use his immense speed to stay out of reach and he won
@thenewbluebeetle007: i have read hundreds of hulk comics and yes the hulk does drown, while he can hold his breath for hours at a time, he does need oxygen. juggernaut drowned him in a river one time, I forget the issue but if you google juggernaut drowns hulk it will come right up for you. so I guess I should throw your comment back at ya.... go read a hulk comic lol thanks for the welcome by the way, nice to meet you
@spartan1008: that's classic hulk, modern is being used for this battle
and when hulk was thrown into space by I think it was the Illuminati he basically got so mad that he didn't need to breath anymore which doesn't make a whole lot of sense but it's true
@zhurong: Green is the color of money, the color of greed. Hulk looks like Kermit the Frog on roids. Firestorm looks amazing. Plus Fire is Cool. Also the name Hulk really belongs to Hulk Hogan, everyone already knows that.
logically Firestorm has ever advantage here. It doesn't matter if he can't directly transmute hulk. He has the ability to turn the battle filed into his every advantage (such as knock out gas, explosives, rubber, etc.....). And the argument has been made that Jason doesn't have the knowledge to transmute (by not knowing the compositions) certain elements? wasn't that a restriction on Ronnie? Prove me wrong on that and we can go further...
Firestorm DOES NOT need to transmute the Hulk. Firestorm wins EASY. He is an energy and molecule manipulator, can fly, has superstrength, and he can basically be a God! this is a mismatch! Hell I'd dare say Firestorm would cure Hulk of any gamma radiation, essentially getting rid of the Hulk easily.
@thenewbluebeetle007: that wasnt classic hulk, it was doctor hulk during the pantheon saga. and he still needs to breathe, he can just hold his breath for massive amounts of time... hours even days if necessary. if you transmute the air in his lungs there is no breath to hold
C'mon mon ami, I think that by now you should know that wouldn't work on Hulk considering his adaptive nature.
I know, I know. I'm only half yanking your chain, mon ami!;) The Hulk's adaptive ability is impressive. But it works best against gradual changes to his environment. Like if he fell into Lake Michigan for example. The first thing he'd do is hold his breath and over the next few minutes (as his half-ton body plummets to the bottom) the "oxygen emulsification" process in his bloodstream would be well underway. A very cool trick I wish I could do. Especially back when I was in the Navy (lol)... But the Hulk has been felled (at least temporarily) by gas attacks before.
Especially when it came upon him quickly. But it seems that the OP has sought to hamstring Firestorm by the OP Conditions, IMO.
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