Hulk vs Cheetah

Depends on the Flash.Wally speed stole and one shotted her in the only time I can remember them fight earnestly -- though she was injuring him a lot ( can't remember how she originally caught Wally but she had Zoom's help there, as well). Barry got wrecked pretty hard by her in the New 52, though this is the Justice League where Aquaman's villain can one shot Wonder Woman and Superman if the plot calls for it. He saw her coming and still couldn't stop her from crippling him for the rest of the comics.

@dredeuced: honestly though. Do seriously think cheetah is on par with Wally?

No.

It wasn't comparable, atleast not in the grand scheme of things. Wonder Woman, while blind, could still fight her evenly (though she could catch Zoom, too. Everyone was kind of jobbing to blind Wonder Woman I guess). Whereas Wally has, on multiple occasions, moved too fast for Diana to perceive.

The only time she ever fought Wally she got a surprise attack on him, injured him greatly, had the overwhelming advantage and still got crushed when the issue came to an end. Flash, crippled and unable to move, pretty handily stopped her from blitzing Diana by grabbing her tail, then once the story wound down, Flash did something he could've done from the very start to get around being too injured to move (speed steal) and beat her handily. I don't see how you can learn, from that comic where Flash was never able to use his speed, that they were even. As soon as Flash wasn't crippled Cheetah wasn't even a threat to him.

Frankly, Cheetah gets her ass kicked by Diana like five more times after this power up before the New 52 happens. Someone who Wonder Woman pretty handily beats and keeps up with is not as fast as The Flash who Diana has stated a few times (and has been shown WAY more times) can move so fast that she's a relative statue compared to him. She's specifically said, when Flash was mind controlled, that he could whale on her all night and there's nothing she could do to stop him (until she figured out a pattern and the starro controlled Flash ran into her outstretched arm).

She's not.

Thanks for clarification, I'd suspected though that Wally would've beaten her (as you said).

@frozen: There's nothing to suspect. Cheetah was given an enormous head start in the fight and Wally still won.

Cheetah ftw.

the hulk wins. he is strong and has a healing factor.

@killemall said:

@Erik said:

@Killemall said:

FTL when? He has never regularly shown that kind of speed so I am calling PIS or conditional factors.

Well buckshot showed me this scan.

IT says circling earth at a speed faster than radiowave, so its FLT.

PIS? that i dont know man i dont even know which issue this is from.

it was later said he wasn't going that fast.

@agent41: you still showed nothing that says she's fast as flash . Even that , your not taking Hulks durability & healing factor seriously . Only a few ppl KO him they just BFR him .

@agent41: if would be ultimate proof if you actually proved it . You basing your argument on speculation once again . You still haven't shown anything that says she movies FTL . & your still not talking Hulks durability or healing factor into account .

@agent41: What? No, I know for a fact that the first fight they have after the Max Lord incident has Diana fighting and reacting to Cheetah fairly easily before just beating her down face to face. The only distraction was some dumb guards that Cheetah got rid of who had no effect on the beating Diana gave Cheetah.

Cheetah has never done anything that compares to what Flash has done. If the best you've got is "Wonder Woman compared her to Flash," then I don't know. Cheetah's never been so fast that Diana was a statue compared to her. Wally's done that very thing many, many times.

Hulk.

Your always going by speculation & assumption. You have nothing that says Cheetah is FTL or flash level speed. Your doing comparisions which is what you do in ALL OF YOUR ARGUMENTS

@agent41: the doesn't even show fast flash was going , it didn't even look like he took off yet . All she did was trip him . You don't have a scan that she is cheetah herself moving FTL . Just cause she blitzed superman doesn't mean she moves FTL .

Hulk.

What? Was this addressed at me?

Lots of people can tag Flash with surprise -- it was very specifically an ambush. That doesn't make them lightspeeders. Again, later in the fight, Flash disables and one shots her fairly easily. Your exact words were that Cheetah "blitzed" Flash, which is such a gross misrepresentation of what happened. You say things like "Cheetah tags Flash in all their fights" -- which is a total of 1 relevant fight I can remember. You keep repeating that her speed gets compared to Flash's. You know who else's speed has gotten compared to Flash's? Superman. Wonder Woman. And they've both been shown time and time again to be significantly slower. Being compared to someone isn't the most pertinent thing when it's been directly overridden by literally dozens of feats.

It is very, very misleading to say Cheetah is as fast as Flash and as strong as Wonder Woman.

@agent41 said:

@dredeuced: Cheetah is faster than WW,so hulk is not tagging her,and here is the proof of Cheetah's strength.

That's not what I was arguing. I was very specific in pointing out how your argument that she is as fast as Flash is really bad.

Interesting. Can you elaborate? I'm interested in hearing your take on it.

@dredeuced: no directed at agent i highlighted what you said so he/she could definitely see it

Hulk wins here.

@agent41: give up, please; you make every WW and Cheetah thread last forever.

Hulks's duarability give's him the edge and his superior strength.

@agent41: Her speed does give her an edge, but Hulk will hit her; and will win, whereas Cheetah cannot beat the Hulk here.

Hulk claps his hands. Why is this thread still going?

@agent41: Explain her getting tagged by much slower characters then; you can't say she is Flash speed, then WW speed; but get tagged by stret levelers as well.

PIS or not, you can't except her top feats all the time without acknowledging the bottom tiers; Cheetah does not have what it takes to keep the Hulk down.

@agent41:

Do you not know what thunderclap is? It's a aoe attack that Hulk does and it was powerful enough to knock out Fin Fang Foom the dragon who was literally eating gamma nukes

@stezzy: because every thread that has WW , Cheetah or a female character in it agent41 comes to defend their honor .

@agent41: lol Hulk can DEFINITELY one shot her lol

Guys, @agent41 is making a valid point here. This is the old Cheetah who was ORIGINALLY shown to be WW's equal in terms of strength. That is not true of later versions however (I've been doing some reading). That's why there are some WAY lower showings for her later. The character's main power remained, and remains, her speed.

The Hulk has fought super-fast opponents, reacted to weapons fire, can do an AoE attack (thunder clap to disorient her). Once he starts pummeling Cheetah, this one's over. Your arguments are that the Hulk will NEVER hit her at all? Live in that world, but I bet it's lonely.

@agent41: her being in WW strength means nothing . How about you show some of her durability feats . Hulk outclasses WW in raw strength