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#1 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

The world has just been destroyed by a full scale nuclear attack, reducing the entire planet into a radioactive, descilate wasteland. These 4 are the only survivors. There all at maximum strength. Who wins?

#2 Posted by Catman (28 posts) - - Show Bio

Apocalypse ftw

#3 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

why

#4 Posted by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio
clayton said:
"why
"

He's the most powerful here.Even if they ganged up on him,I don't think they could win.
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#5 Posted by venom hybrid (2486 posts) - - Show Bio

Apocalypse or juggs

does apoc have telepathic powers?

#6 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

I say hulk beats them all to death. no matter what he keeps coming. nothing can stop the hulk. he is the fittest

#7 Posted by Catman (28 posts) - - Show Bio
#8 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

couldn't get that

#9 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk is no match for Apocalypse. He served as one of his horsemen, albeit for a short time. Abomination would similarly be no problem, as Apocalypse is as strong as he needs to be. He could easily outwit Juggernaut and take him out with a telepathic assault. Apocalypse takes this.

#10 Posted by thorownzsuperman (70 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk

#11 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

How do you propose that Hulk go about winning this fight? Just smash everything? Won't work. Apocalypse has complete control over his body's molecular structure. He can also grow bigger, and become stronger than Hulk. He has subdued Hulk and made him into his servant before. What makes you think he could win here?

#12 Posted by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio
thorownzsuperman said:
"hulk"

FANBOY ALERT...HIDE THE CHILDREN.
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#13 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

The Hulk became a horseman willingly to get his abusive father out of his head. Apocalypse did not subue him but convinced him to cease his attack. I don't think Apocalypse's telepathy is that advanced to hurt the Juggernaut but it wouldn't surprise me. I say the Hulk rips Apoc  in 1/2

#14 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Good luck. As I said, complete control over his body's molecular structure. Apocalypse's TP is also more than enough to handle Juggernaut.

#15 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

Apocalypse won't have time to think to control his molecular structure when his head is being ripped off

#16 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, he will. He can do it at the speed of thought. Read up on Apocalypse if you still think Hulk would be a challenge for him.

#17 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

I have. It would be a great fight and yes Apocalypse would dominate most of the fight. Nonetheless, Hulk will destroy his body in the end and Apocalypse will show up some time later having been resurrected or switching his mind with another being.

#18 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

How will he destroy his body? With pure brute force? That would not work. I don't know how many ways I can say "controls his molecular structure at will" before you get it. He can be bigger than Hulk. He can make himself stronger than Hulk. He has TK, TP, any number of other powers. He can fly. Hulk could not destroy his physical form.

#19 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
Apocalypse would win this fight
#20 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk is immune to telepathy i believe. Apocalypse increasing his molecular structure only advances his strength and other physical attributes. And any weaponry he produces is useless because of the Hulk's healing factor. He's been reduced to bones and he healed instantaneously.

#21 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Funny, when the Void broke every bone in Hulk's body, it took him considerably longer to recover.

#22 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright. Must have missed that one. But, show me proof of Apocalypse defeating a being anywhere close to the hulk.

#23 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't have a scanner but he managed to subdue and capture the 12. Their power far exceeds that of the Hulk. They are: Magneto, Polaris, Storm, Sunfire, Iceman, Cyclops, Phoenix, Cable, Bishop, Mikhail Rasputin, Professor X, and the Living Monolith. He also subdued X-Man fairly easily in the same arc.

#24 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

It was a good story I read many times. At the end of it you find out that apocalypse body had been burned out by all the energy he possessed and had to find another body (Nate Grey) but then merged with Cyke. That being said, the Hulk's radioactive punches would destroy his body. The bigger Apoc gets, the angrier the Hulk gets. Hulk eventually wins.

#25 Posted by clayton (170 posts) - - Show Bio

Now I did say at full power, so that would mean Apocalypse would probably have the Twelve power. Maybe your right. If Apoc could have already controlled the Twelve power then he would win.

#26 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
Think about this: Mr. Sinister genetically engineered Nate Grey (Cable, Stryfe) to be able to defeat Apocalypse. He didn't just make him a tank. It takes more than brute strength to stop Apocalypse.
#27 Posted by Blackjuggy (189 posts) - - Show Bio
clayton said:
"The Hulk became a horseman willingly to get his abusive father out of his head. Apocalypse did not subue him but convinced him to cease his attack. I don't think Apocalypse's telepathy is that advanced to hurt the Juggernaut but it wouldn't surprise me. I say the Hulk rips Apoc  in 1/2"

If that HAppens Apocalypse in habit juggernaut or Hulk, jus like inhabited the body of cyclops. I might give it to Apocalypse you can really never get rid of him. In the case I just stated whoever is inhabited by apoc wins because they gain the brains to win and they already have the physical attributes to complete the body.

Actually Juggernaut cant  be killed either. 
#28 Posted by The Fabulous Frag (72 posts) - - Show Bio

First, Abomination goes does.  Then the Hulk.  Finally, just Juggernaut and Apocalypse duking it out.

I'd give it to Juggernaut.

#29 Posted by Catman (28 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
clayton said:
"I say hulk beats them all to death. no matter what he keeps coming. nothing can stop the hulk. he is the fittest"


#31 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
brainiac 1.0 said:
"clayton said:
"I say hulk beats them all to death. no matter what he keeps coming. nothing can stop the hulk. he is the fittest"


"
LMMFAO
#32 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Apocalypse more than likely win here he is too smart to brawl with Hulk or juggs. He would just wait until Hulk knocks off Juggs helmet and then grow huge and BFR Hulk and abomination then use his tp to control Juggs.

#33 Posted by Cosmic Mancer (195 posts) - - Show Bio

Apocalypse ftw

#34 Posted by Hedatary (3768 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"Apocalypse more than likely win here he is too smart to brawl with Hulk or juggs. He would just wait until Hulk knocks off Juggs helmet and then grow huge and BFR Hulk and abomination then use his tp to control Juggs."
What kind of argument is that?

But it's pretty much obvious what the answer is. The big guy wouldn't even notice those three are there. Hell, he would just ignore them and return to whatever he was doing.
#35 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"SeSAW said:
"Apocalypse more than likely win here he is too smart to brawl with Hulk or juggs. He would just wait until Hulk knocks off Juggs helmet and then grow huge and BFR Hulk and abomination then use his tp to control Juggs."
What kind of argument is that?

But it's pretty much obvious what the answer is. The big guy wouldn't even notice those three are there. Hell, he would just ignore them and return to whatever he was doing.
"
which big guy
#36 Posted by bigtalk (51 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a tough one. We're talking the peak of each character's abilities.
This scenario includes the world being devastated by nuclear bombs. Isn't that just going to make Hulk and Abomination more powerful? In the Future Imperfect story didn't a similar thing happen? Hulk grew insanely powerful from the radiation, became the Maestro and killed every super-powered being on the planet. I think that means he took out Juggernaut.
The Abomination was just murdered by the Red Hulk.  I think he is a few laps behind the Hulk in power (he started out  more powerful). Even a nuclear explosion or two wouldn't catch him up, especially if the Hulk was getting that extra radiation too. Hulk is immensely powerful right now. He was able to go toe to toe with Sentry. He cleaned everyone's clock in WWH. I think that if you added more radiation to him, he would be truly unbeatable. 
So, how about Apocalypse? From what I've read of him, he's pretty bad. I think a newly irradiated Hulk with the genius of Bruce Banner could nullify him somehow. Apocalypse might not die, but somehow he would be contained. The Hulk can't be contained. 
I'm going with the Hulk.

#37 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
The Fabulous Frag said:
"First, Abomination goes does.  Then the Hulk.  Finally, just Juggernaut and Apocalypse duking it out.

I'd give it to Juggernaut.
"
That's pretty much how it goes unless Apoc remembers he has telepathy.

Which I think is about a 50-50 shot.
#38 Posted by talia (362 posts) - - Show Bio

im going with Apocalypse

#39 Posted by Knowsbleed33 (628 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut. He'd need to be distracted for Apoc. to get his helmet off for a mind rape. 1 on 1 Juggernaut gives Apoc. a beating he'll never forget. As for the rest, Hulk is the only match.

#40 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio
Knowsbleed33 said:
"Juggernaut. He'd need to be distracted for Apoc. to get his helmet off for a mind rape. 1 on 1 Juggernaut gives Apoc. a beating he'll never forget. As for the rest, Hulk is the only match."
Juggs has 2 other people in the ring to knock off hiss helmet so Apocalypse would win even if he don't Hulk comes in second.
#41 Posted by Knowsbleed33 (628 posts) - - Show Bio

You're assuming Juggernaut is going to be focused on the other 2. Who's to say they're not all ganging up on Apoc.?

Juggernaut
Hulk
Apoc.
Abomination

#42 Posted by mrwenpire (275 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk wins. 
 
If ur talking about each character at their PRIMES, Hulk will ripp all of em apart.   
 
Green Scar Hulk has beaten Juggernaut before, so no need to argue that. 
Hulk can regenerate from just about ANYTHING, and he has UNLIMITED strength cauz his strength rises to his anger.
#43 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrwenpire: Juggernaut defeats them all because of his magical powers.  Without his magical powers, then Juggernaut loses of course.
#44 Posted by mrwenpire (275 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut is fat.
#45 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is a win by ko then i will go with Juggs if not its a draw. But i realy don't know if Juggs can actualy put down Apoc ...
#46 Edited by Bor (734 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrwenpire said:

" Hulk wins.  If ur talking about each character at their PRIMES, Hulk will ripp all of em apart.    Green Scar Hulk has beaten Juggernaut before, so no need to argue that. Hulk can regenerate from just about ANYTHING, and he has UNLIMITED strength cauz his strength rises to his anger. "

 
H's anger isnt infinite its obvious Marvel info. Skaar didnt beat Jugg at all, no lie and dont be a fanboy. Jugg easily took him down and then he cheated and using his old power to bfr Cain. Scar Hulk has never beaten Jugg with power, he won with Cain without power. In official Marvel info its written that Jugg has the best regerative healing factor, the highest resistance to all kind of injuries and in basic form is at least as strong as max enraged Hulk (but propablu stronger).
Classic Jugg fought with WWH and was able to overpower him (push his hands in deirection he wants, make better punches etc).
8-th day or Trion ? haha Hulk would have no chance with him (its power of Jugg he can have more it)
#47 Posted by BROLYJUGGY (72 posts) - - Show Bio

if your saying juggernaut at full power as in cyttorak gives him all his power then juggernaut wins no questions asked
#48 Edited by Doombert (518 posts) - - Show Bio
Always vote for the guy who can make his head float around the place.  It's a safe bet.
#49 Edited by why so serious (1388 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk should win here.
The Hulk that fought juggernaut in WW Hulk wasn't even Hulk at his strongest.  ( he wasn't as angry as he was when he fought and defeated the Sentry ).

#50 Posted by King Hercules (1160 posts) - - Show Bio

The abomination is easily beaten here. The reminaing three can increase their strength to Class 100. All three have been described as having near limitless strength but this would come down to Juggernaut and the Hulk in their normal stalemate.