Hulk runs the Rogues gauntlet

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@kingant27: how do u suppose he clears round 1 vs captain colds cold field and absolute zero?

How do u suppose he escapes mirror masters mirror world in the mirror master round?

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Still agree with @ghostravage. He clears the first 4 and not sure on 5. I like how people always call the Rogues underestimated when they are always blown out of proportion but Hulk is consistently called overrated. Pot, meet kettle.

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@demonknights: Hulk already shrugged off absolute zero temperature. It's in the first 5 comments of this thread. *sigh*

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He has trouble in Round 4 & might not clear due to Mirror Master - if he does make it to Round 5 I'm in full belief that Abra can take him.

The dude turned Superman into a puppet & right after this he made Jay Garrick into a giant turtle - literally.

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Hulk gets stomped at 1,4 and maybe 5 I don't know AK much.

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Mirror Master solos him at round 4.

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@highaccuser:

Colds gun has better feats tha absolute zero in marvel. Anything that's not flashes speed gets stopped and frozen.

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@highaccuser:

Colds gun has better feats tha absolute zero in marvel. Anything that's not flashes speed gets stopped and frozen.

Absolute zero is abosolute zero. It's not different depending on the company.

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Gets stomped by mirror master

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@highaccuser:

Actually it is. Also Colds gun has been stated by Mr Freeze to go BELOW absolute zero.

Everything does different things in different companies depending on what they want it to do. At AZ hulk wouldn't be able to move and all of his molecules would stop. It's freaking stupid he'd be able to move.

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@highaccuser:

Actually it is. Also Colds gun has been stated by Mr Freeze to go BELOW absolute zero.

Everything does different things in different companies depending on what they want it to do. At AZ hulk wouldn't be able to move and all of his molecules would stop. It's freaking stupid he'd be able to move.

It still doesn't have the feats.

The fact that he's moved in absolute zero is honestly enough proof he can do it here.

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@highaccuser:

Not really as to move in Colds Field you have to move at lightspeed at least. Hulk can't so he gets frozen. Simple as.

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@highaccuser:

Not really as to move in Colds Field you have to move at lightspeed at least. Hulk can't so he gets frozen. Simple as.

Except that Hulk didn't get frozen so he doesn't have to move lightspeed.

Feats>>>>>>>>your bias.

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@risingbean:

I'm sorry I didn't realise hulk had a feat surviving a gun that can shoot temperatures absolute zero or lower.

Colds gun stops ALL movement of particles. Apparently AZ doesn't do that in marvel so it's not the same thing.

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: . It wasn't a gun, but the Hulk has dealt with absolute zero. It didn't stop him. Get over it.

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@risingbean:

You do know you can't take science concepts from one universe and apply them to the other right? Absolute zero in DC is different to absolute zero in Marvel obviously. And captain colds gun takes away all energy from molecules. Which AZ doesn't do in Marvel. So unless hulk has a feat of moving when all his kinetic energy is removed he is frozen. End of.

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: We're talking about universes where radiation doesn't kill you, it makes you a super hero. We're talking universes where aliens are coming out of the wood work and supertech is more common then a .38 special.

If you want to be disingenuous and whine "Wahhhh But the laws are not the same in DC as in Marvel!!" Then you may as well not debate in battles. You're going to get chewed up and spit out every time. Absolute zero is something the Hulk has dealt with. Thus when you pull out your "But the guy I want to win can..." It doesn't matter. We direct you back to post #5 on page one where Hulk has dealt with absolute zero. Case closed.

If you want to debate bring something to the table that isn't your bias. Facts are usually a good start.

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@risingbean:

No I'm saying colds gun works differently to the marvel universes version on AZ. Colds gun would stop hulk because of how it works and how it's been described to work. The cold field stops everything that is moving below lightspeed and greatly slows everything else.

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: And I'm saying that the Hulk has already dealt with AZ. I'm saying that when Grey Gargoyle turned Hulk to stone, Hulk didn't care and still kicked his ass. The Hulk resists crazy stuff. Hulk defies your logic. He has the feats to do so. Refer to post 5. All you have is tears.

Also who says absolute zero is different in DC then Marvel? Citation needed.

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stops at round 1 probably as a stalemate because of the cold field

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Hulk clears

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@risingbean:

By what it does makes it obvious AZ does different things.

Cold field stops hulk. Also did you notice that colds gun goes BELOW absolute zero? Which hulk has not resisted in marvels BS logic.

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: You're talking about universes where people harness willpower as energy and can fly without aid. The laws of the universe act as they do (as much as the writer is knowledgeable, anyhow) except when they don't. Specific rule trumps general rule.

Cold field doesn't stop Hulk. refer to post #5.

Also how something goes below max stumps me. you accept that, but not the inverse? Hypocrisy much? At any rate, going by showings, Hulk deals with X+0 as well as he deals with X.

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@risingbean:

Victor fries stated it. Rather than it being a one off feat that only occurs due to plot.

Post #5 doesn't help at all. Please stop referring it. It's actually post #6 and if anything it shows hulk resisting near AZ with a specialised suit. Not standard equipment of purple trousers.

Please show me a feat of hulk being ok at below 0 Kelvin.

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: Post 6 indeed. Color me wrong for once.

To my understanding, and I'll let @ghostravage explain the suit to you, it doesn't assist Hulk. It's for Banner's protection.

Please show me a scan detailing the difference between absolute zero (absolute being the max) and something beyond it. The comment by Fries makes him (and the writer) sound prone to idiocy. I'll add 10,000 to infinity and have...well infinity. Being beyond absolute zero is a misnomer in my book. But before I disregard, scans?

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Due to reading superior arguments on here, I'm agreeing hulk clears

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#183  Edited By HULKANGRY

Hulk Smash.

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@risingbean:

It says the armour thermal unit to full power or something so yeah it's helping hulk.

I'll try and find the scan it'll be in the edit

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/1/18519/735263-cold.jpg

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@joeagentofhand1 said:

I believe Hulk stops round 1, due to Captain Cold

Don't worry man... Hulk has a very wide list of instances where he resists extreme low temperatures... Even Absolute Zero in his current series... @mightyrearranger For you too :)

Im quite sure he just thunderclaps Captain Cold and he's done. Anyway, as for the OP, what makes Abra Kadabra greater than Mirror Master, can someone post something about him? His page doesn't have much information.

He gets till round 5 maybe clears but i don't know about Abra Kadabra.

I know this is from a long time ago but it should be noted Capt. Cold's gun doesn't fire absolute zero temps. Instead it robs things of their kinetic motion to the point that they're that cold.

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@watcher5000: Yeah... That makes absolutely no sense. Atomic motion changes WITH changes of temperature, not the other way around. Not only that but the complete motionless state of atoms is called absolute zero. If that was the case... Flash stealing speed would freeze everyone as he steals speed from both movement speed and atomic motion yet he has an entire hall of motionless villains... An ironically applicable comparison given Captain Cold is a Flash villain.

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@ghostravage: I agree that it doesn't make sense but it has been stated more than once.

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#188  Edited By GhostRavage

@watcher5000: Your scan doesn't say he doesn't use very low temperatures to do such thing though. He even claims his gun is a "cold gun". His purpose is not to freeze but he by all means uses very low temperatures to achieve his goal.

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Could stop at 2 honestly.

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@lord-parallax: Right, the format threw me off. Either way, why would he stop at Weather Wizard and Turtle?

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@lord-parallax: Right, the format threw me off. Either way, why would he stop at Weather Wizard and Turtle?

Turtle has speed steal, it's the only power he even has. Does Hulk have a counter?

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Hulk Dies Horribly at the first round.

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Cold, MM, Turtle, and Abra all solo. He could beat the rest though.

The idea of him clearing is hilarious. Abra stomped Superman, Wally West, and Jay Garrick at the same time, without any real effort.

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Could stop at 2 honestly.

no ur wrng hulk clears with all his rage and murders the rogues. then he absorbs the speedforce and becomes The Flulk.

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#200  Edited By blackpantherisb

Stops at 5