Wolverine's a non-factor here, only good he'll do is the exact opposite of what would help Hercules in that situation, and that is pissing Hulk & Ares off... Team 1 ftw.
Hulk & Ares vs. Hercules & Wolverine
Wolverine would smoke ares. Ares has no way of dealing with him. Hulk is the difference maker here. I dont see wolverine and herc mattering much to hulk. Wolverine in some sense severly out classes characters like herc thing ares colosus. Characters like them cant have room for error one mistake and its shish ka bob city. In fighting ability, durability in most cases, elusivness and the ability to end a fight are all in wolvies favor. I've said it before it matters very little how strong you are when you have a weapon that cutts that guy in half. Now if ares could maneuver like wolverine wich he cant he relys on big bulky slow weapon while wolverine is the weapon, he would have a chance but he dont. Dont believe the hype or title "GOD of WAR" title means very little here. Ares is a legend in his own mind!!!
you showed one instance of one encounter. Just cause a writer said this person is going to own in this one fight no way no how means he should. Like saying red hulk beat a silver surfer and punched uatu. Or the other 100 thousand cases of certain characters beating characters they shouldnt again Ares should die. What happens once he loses an arm or a leg or his head. Ares isnt one shotting wolverine thats for sure.
Ares and his 10000000 low showings and 2 good ones rule against you. I like Ares to he is just poorly written and not given the power he deserves now ares from DC owns!!!
" you showed one instance of one encounter. Just cause a writer said this person is going to own in this one fight no way no how means he should. Like saying red hulk beat a silver surfer and punched uatu. Or the other 100 thousand cases of certain characters beating characters they shouldnt again Ares should die. What happens once he loses an arm or a leg or his head. Ares isnt one shotting wolverine thats for sure. "ares has a healing factor, he has been shot point blank and had his brains blown out and he was still up and fighting.
didnt come back when he got ripped in half!!!! Wolverine by decapitation leaves ares with no arms. Its much easier for logan to end this fight than ares.
FIRST OF ALL..................Hulk is not AWAYS WW HULK!! hes never that mad people act like hes that mad all the time and walking around at world breaker level all day. thats pure BS
now Hulk is STUPID as in a brick is smarter then him......period hes just shrek on roids. nothing more nothing less.
team 2 would win this fight easy IF they go with wolverine vs hulk and herc vs ares. ares cant hang with herc that fight is over in mins. and all the wolverine haters can go stuff it cause wolverine can fight hulk for MONTHS before hulk could final win IF he could win. Logan has proven time and time again that hes the man to fight hulk and MAYBE win.
so with ares gone
Hulk cant beat herc (who would really be fighting) and wolverine at the same time.
ares vs wolverine is a great fight ares cant kill him I think wolverine could most likety win that fight in time.
hercules can take out ares on team 1, wolverine can serve as a nuisance or something to buy time. it could end up being herc and logan vs. the hulk. they could win if they knock out the hulk before he gets too mad
Wolverine is the least skill fighter here if anything his just above hulk. Hercules and Ares on the other hand have had thousands of years of experience. Thor even admitted Hercules is better than him at H2H combat." wolverines the best fighter out of all of these choices, but if ares gets a chop on logan, that would definitely take him out
hercules can take out ares on team 1, wolverine can serve as a nuisance or something to buy time. it could end up being herc and logan vs. the hulk. they could win if they knock out the hulk before he gets too mad "
" @odinforce said:Wolverine is the least skill fighter here if anything his just above hulk. Hercules and Ares on the other hand have had thousands of years of experience. Thor even admitted Hercules is better than him at H2H combat. "" wolverines the best fighter out of all of these choices, but if ares gets a chop on logan, that would definitely take him out
hercules can take out ares on team 1, wolverine can serve as a nuisance or something to buy time. it could end up being herc and logan vs. the hulk. they could win if they knock out the hulk before he gets too mad "
No.
Wolverine is the most Skilled here.
He's learnt every Martial Arts style on Earth.
" @kaushif93 said:and where on earth did u get that from?" @odinforce said:No. Wolverine is the most Skilled here. He's learnt every Martial Arts style on Earth. "Wolverine is the least skill fighter here if anything his just above hulk. Hercules and Ares on the other hand have had thousands of years of experience. Thor even admitted Hercules is better than him at H2H combat. "" wolverines the best fighter out of all of these choices, but if ares gets a chop on logan, that would definitely take him out
hercules can take out ares on team 1, wolverine can serve as a nuisance or something to buy time. it could end up being herc and logan vs. the hulk. they could win if they knock out the hulk before he gets too mad "
" @comicdude23 said:" @kaushif93 said:and where on earth did u get that from? "" @odinforce said:No. Wolverine is the most Skilled here. He's learnt every Martial Arts style on Earth. "Wolverine is the least skill fighter here if anything his just above hulk. Hercules and Ares on the other hand have had thousands of years of experience. Thor even admitted Hercules is better than him at H2H combat. "" wolverines the best fighter out of all of these choices, but if ares gets a chop on logan, that would definitely take him out
hercules can take out ares on team 1, wolverine can serve as a nuisance or something to buy time. it could end up being herc and logan vs. the hulk. they could win if they knock out the hulk before he gets too mad "
His Comics.
He's literally learnt every Combat form on the Planet.
Ares & hulk should win unless its Hercules from chaos war lol but wolverine i doubt would last he'd get taken out by either but Hercules can defeat either hulk or Ares but if comes down to two on one hes screwed .
dont go around talking smack about a character if you don't even know one of most important facts about him, let alone anything about him
Herc and Ares have very little showings compared to wolverine so they hardly get to show their true feats. Having more showings doesn't mean you are better. It usually just means you've had more appearances. Hercules and Ares have way more experience in H2H than wolverine, like thousands of years more." @kaushif93: wolverine is probably part of the top 10 h2h fighters in the marvel universe (along with steve rodgers, iron fist and daredevil), herc and ares may have very well had thousands of years to train, but feats say otherwise
dont go around talking smack about a character if you don't even know one of most important facts about him, let alone anything about him "
If you were to use Logic you wouldn’t even be arguing with me.
Yes but it certainly shows what you're capable of.
" way more experience in H2H than wolverine, like thousands of years more. "
And that doen't mean that their better than wolverine, only tells how much experience they've had. I could have been running for one hundred years and i still wont be faster than the flash.
" If you were to use Logic you wouldn’t even be arguing with me."
Exactly what i would have said. On comicvine we argue by feats not what the character can possibly do (for example sentry). So unless Ares has better combat feats than Wolverine, he still loses H2H.
Unless of course that you've met Ares yourself in real life and you've seen him do better H2H feats right in front of your eyes, which i doubt (thats sarcasm).
And once again the issue for me is (which was said before):
" dont go around talking smack about a character if you don't even know one of most important facts about him, let alone anything about him"
and fyi, i've already known about ares and herc's thousands of years training, unlike you who doesn't know one of the most important facts about a character you're arguing about (seems pretty illogical)
Didnt Wolverine beat Abomination? i know it was written kinda funny, but still he did it and he would give Colossus a good run and Namor, Hulk...some heavy weights that Wolverine could match up well against them by using his quick reflexes and elusiveness .
So Wolverine brings down Ares and helps Hercules take out Hulk.
Team 1 destroys. Ares knocks out Logan after finally catching wolves with his axe or fist and then helps Hulk beat down Herc. Or Ares can hold off Herc (momentarily*) while the Hulk beats wolverines brain in and Hulk saves Ares from Herc and them two overwhelm Herc.
*B4 everyone gets all crazy about my 2nd scenario, Ares has been able to go toe to toe with Herc. Even if its momentarily.
"Team 1 destroys. Ares knocks out Logan after finally catching wolves with his axe or fist and then helps Hulk beat down Herc. Or Ares can hold off Herc (momentarily*) while the Hulk beats wolverines brain in and Hulk saves Ares from Herc and them two overwhelm Herc. *B4 everyone gets all crazy about my 2nd scenario, Ares has been able to go toe to toe with Herc. Even if its momentarily. "
and you expect Ares to catch Logan how? This is by no means a stomp for team one. At most its the other way around, with Hulk most likely getting bfr'd or if herc is serious beating him down before he gets too strong. Wolverine is more than capable of battling ares.
" @BarelyAverage said:How exactly is Hulk going to get bfr'd by another brick? I can say the same thing too. Herc gets bfr'd and then Hulk and Ares team up on wolverine. And is everyone ignoring that scan where Ares knocked out Wolverine with a single punch? Sure it was a cheap shot but none the less you get the point of what one punch from the god of war can do to wolverine, Imagine two or even an axe swing? Ares is bound to tag him with something. Wolverine is fast but not superhumanly so. Daken was much faster than him and still got tagged by the Thing who is considerably slower than Ares. Wolverine is nothing more than a distraction in this fight. Sure his durability is annoying to bricks but they can still knock him out. Ares and Hulk take this 9.5/10...."Team 1 destroys. Ares knocks out Logan after finally catching wolves with his axe or fist and then helps Hulk beat down Herc. Or Ares can hold off Herc (momentarily*) while the Hulk beats wolverines brain in and Hulk saves Ares from Herc and them two overwhelm Herc. *B4 everyone gets all crazy about my 2nd scenario, Ares has been able to go toe to toe with Herc. Even if its momentarily. "and you expect Ares to catch Logan how? This is by no means a stomp for team one. At most its the other way around, with Hulk most likely getting bfr'd or if herc is serious beating him down before he gets too strong. Wolverine is more than capable of battling ares. "
" @god_spawn said:
How exactly is Hulk going to get bfr'd by another brick? I can say the same thing too. Herc gets bfr'd and then Hulk and Ares team up on wolverine. And is everyone ignoring that scan where Ares knocked out Wolverine with a single punch? Sure it was a cheap shot but none the less you get the point of what one punch from the god of war can do to wolverine, Imagine two or even an axe swing? Ares is bound to tag him with something. Wolverine is fast but not superhumanly so. Daken was much faster than him and still got tagged by the Thing who is considerably slower than Ares. Wolverine is nothing more than a distraction in this fight. Sure his durability is annoying to bricks but they can still knock him out. Ares and Hulk take this 9.5/10.... "" @BarelyAverage said:
"Team 1 destroys. Ares knocks out Logan after finally catching wolves with his axe or fist and then helps Hulk beat down Herc. Or Ares can hold off Herc (momentarily*) while the Hulk beats wolverines brain in and Hulk saves Ares from Herc and them two overwhelm Herc. *B4 everyone gets all crazy about my 2nd scenario, Ares has been able to go toe to toe with Herc. Even if its momentarily. "and you expect Ares to catch Logan how? This is by no means a stomp for team one. At most its the other way around, with Hulk most likely getting bfr'd or if herc is serious beating him down before he gets too strong. Wolverine is more than capable of battling ares. "
Hulk isnt starting out stronger than Hercules in this fight. Herc definitely has enough strength to bfr hulk with a single punch Hercules has enough strength to bfr either of them.Hercules can beat down ares while Logan keeps dodging the Hulk to keep him busy. Im not gonna ignore the scan, i already said and you agreed it was a cheap shot but it didnt KO Logan. Logan has taken far worse hits to the head and remained concious. Ares has to hit Logan first with the axe and i havent seen anything that puts Ares on the speed or reflexes of Logan please show me. If you have any scans of Ares speed feats then you could change my mind. What fight are you talking about when Thing tagged Daken? Im thinking of when he infiltrated the FF base and thing smashed his face against the ground. Wolverine could be considered a distraction but he is also the fastest here. Ares or Hulk would have difficulty tagging Logan and whoever Hercules is facing off against is like i said BFR'd or gets beaten down. He has the power to do so. I say team two for the majority.
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