Hulk and Thor vs Wonder Women and Superman

-no bfr

-No speed blitz

-all characters are current, but this is thor just before losing his hammer

- Hulk has potential to become Worldbreaker, he is already enraged to the point where he can lift 50,000 tons with relative ease.

-superman can sundip once for 10 min. But once he goes he must stay for the full 10 min, this is to balance out Hulk's buff

-win by death

-im changing things up, in round 2 Morals are Off, and both teams are bloodlusted, weapons are no longer allowed, so no lasso or bracers for Diana, no Hammer for Thor. Diana also loses the ability to fly.

-the sun is now gone(all contestants get the ability to see in the dark), superman is at regualr power, but he can no longer fly. (I took away flight in order to make this more of a fist to fist confrontation in round 2)

-Hulks no more worldbreaker, his lifting weight has dropped to 35,000 tons and his healing factor has dropped to half of its usual rate. Hulk now has banner's intelligence.

Btw everyone i changed some things in round 2 so take a look.I thought that i debuffed hulk too much, and so i gave him another.

Hulk's infinite strength/power = omnipotence = TOAA.

Hulk solos with ease.

Even without speed blitzing, Hulk and Thor couldn't touch WW or Superman.

Wonder Woman > Thor.

Superman >>> Hulk.

Also been done.

Team 2.

@frisky4: Hulk and Thor have fought people just as fast if not faster than these two: Glads, Sentry, Hyperion, Silver Surfer.

Team 2

Nobody on team 1 could beat anyone on team 2 in solo combat, they are definitely not doing it 2on2.

They're still just so much slower. Thor could beat Superman due to magic, but that's about it imo.

@frisky4: but he still has his magic and his hammer is plenty fast enough to hit either of them.

Team 2.

Team 2. They can still avoid being hit.

Wonder Women

Team 2 wrecks.

Team 2, though I do believe Thor could potentially beat either on team dc. Hulk is just to weak a link.

Team two, hulk probably won't get strong enough to help much.

Nerf DC team but buff up Marvel team...

Marvel Team wins.Diana is a weak link

I acknowledged the magic factor. The Hammer's fast. Fast enough to hit them. Considering who has dodged it, WW and Superman can dodge it too.

@jayc1324: current Hulk is the one holding the weight of stars and laughing off hits from Thanos correct?

@frisky4: but they've been hit by people who have no speed feats so I'm sure they will definitely be hit my Mjlonir.

Just not every time.

Team 1 wins.

You're joking right?

@frisky4: not everytime but they'll be hit, they'll also be hit by Hulk.

Team 2 For sure .

Team 1 Thor beats superman because of magic and theirs no way wonder woman can keep hulk down long enough to stop Thor. Thor's magic seals the deal for marvel here.

Why the nerfs? Team 1 would win anyway, with Diana being a massive weak link.

Even without Speed blitzing Diana & Clark are to fast for the other team.

Team Two FTW

Actually there is nothing HULk can do to stop her. Lasso.

@termiteone4ever: punch her in the nose. GG Wonder Woman. Or thor could blast her, you know, whichever comes first.

Here are some facts for you . no Speed Blitz means no easy win for Team 2. The Op didnt state no evasion. Second the Lasso reverts HULk back to Banner or Traps him for superman to finish him . easily strangle the HUlk cutting off air so much ways. if you want to use Thor . There is nothing Thor can do to stop wonder woman from getting close or deflecting his Blast. Superman is still here. Which is the answer for Both characters.

Facts wonder woman do punch back and is capable of hurting or injure the HULK. What your answer for when HULK he is Lassoed. He cant avoid it or respond in time to do anything

As far as whichever comes first . Team 2 would still faster . They may not be blitzing but they are still above anything These two can produce

No. I feel like WW would beat Thor.

I really don't see Hulk getting many hits in on either of them.

@termiteone4ever: no, the lasso won't revert him to banner, no, it won't choke him because he doesn't need to breathe. Its the lasso of truth for a reason, and considering hulk starts off incredibly angry the only truth that she'll get is that he want to rip her head off. She doesn't have anything close to the strength to keep him in place, nor anything close to the durability to withstand even three punches from either of these guys. I could care less about her speed since its useless if you can't hurt the other guy. Literally all he has to do is tug or jump away and dianas getting ragdolled. She's a massive weak link in the new 52 and superman can't take on both of these guys.

The lasso can make him submitt and calm him down . Second He does need to breathe . I recall arguing this also and there were instances it said he does and doesnt he does need air. It doesnt matter how angry HULk starts off he cant Break the Lasso also she can tactically tie him and restrain him. Since she has use the lasso for cutting . There is not much HULk can do to stop her. The basic Brawl isnt going to work. HULK cannot one shot her no chance. HULk doesnt have the Strength or Speed needed to do that . Comparing or hoping what doomsday did isnt a good example . A character on Doomsday level of Adapt and speed and skill is way above HULKs .

Wonder woman is no weak at all . If we are using her Hulk has less chance of winning . So does Thor . OP didnt state what version either

@frisky4: again, Hulk has fought and tagged faster people than them and they have been tagged by slower people than Hulk. He should be able to get some shots in.

@termiteone4ever: how come you always put Hulk in all caps?

@termiteone4ever: this is utterly pointless... Your repeating the same nonsense every time anyone argues with you, no matter how many times its disputed.

@cregan_stark: yes

There is no reason. I just do it at random .

The only person Preaching nonsense is you as always. Your answer is HULK Punching her in the Face. Be glad they are Nerfed in this battle . To give team one a better fighting chance.

These are the facts and points i have notice .

You are no one can prove me wrong and seem to ignore that obvious facts. My time here on the vine, i have seen many larger Hulk fans . You all seem to think that you have to be Stronger than the HULK to win.

These are the facts . HULK cannot one shot Wonder Woman .

IF wonder Woman is fighting seriously the hulk is done.

How is the heck will HULk knock her out ? He would need Wonder Woman to stand still not move and take a hammering which is not happening.

No matter how Strong the HULK is a Tactical Tie will disable him and Wonder woman does have the Strength to Knock him out.

Strangle is still an option. The Hulk does need to breathe.

Now dont ignore the fact that the Lasso can subdue him, even calm him down weaken him. Turn him back to Banner. Stop trying to Ignore these facts / Just as how you like to boast strength of the HULK this is where speed with enough strength takes him out along with magical weapons.

Depending on which wonder woman she has various powers including Zeus lightening / God wave and many other option . including the use of Lasso for cutting and piercing. Magical items to behead the HUlk. unlike superman Wonder Woman Morals isnt the highest she will kill.

You want to ignore the facts and hope that HULK can catch her in a ground and Pound action which is not happening .

Let me see You list ten ways HULk can win . I bet you can List Ten ways Wonder Woman can win before HULK can. Hulk basic Smashing will not be working on Someone like wonder woman when she is on top of her game or serious.

I changed the rules a bit to make it more fair for both teams, btw i said enraged hulk because most on this site would call base hulk a non factor in any fight.

Wait. Hulk can laugh at a hit from Thanos and survive the weight of a sun on him, can take world breaking shots without flinching but Wonderwoman can KO him?

Wonder Women> Wonder Woman

Team 2

You may need to debuff superman some more . With no morals he would defeat HULK in other ways . you may need to minus no heat vision. No freeze breathe and then some more. You should also Debuff wonder woman some more . Remember Thor cant Fly without his hammer. Hulk cant Fly at all either. You still would have to Debuff team 2 some more .

If that your way of down playing wonder woman and hype the HULK its not working . Hulk charging in getting knocked by Thanos in mid air doesnt prove anything. He was still on the planet and was able to Stop at the force . You should also note that Thanos didnt hit him with all his might . Weight of a star you might need to go back and read other HULK threads and get the exploited facts. World breaking shots ? I think you are mixing up blast and body blows . Direct punch to the face from strong strong heroes over 100T class at continuous rate knocked him out. So yes wonder woman is a good canidate too take him out . Hulk is strong but Strength along doesnt win . Current DR green i am liking i think he will be most dangerous HULk

@cregan_stark: did this happen in the recent thanos vs hulk comic

@termiteone4ever: Hulk can survive temperatures hotter than the core of our sun so it wouldnt be a problem and as well as freezing temperatures(im not sure how much but way below -900)

lol

What? You think I'm funny?

Hulk has infinite strength, the writers said so. He curbstomps every version of Superman combined.

Hulk is beyond Skyfather tier, he could freeze them in time with a gamma burst or blink them out of existence with a thunder clap

Jk team 1 still wins though

Telling me this is not helping your. argument we have not seen Hulk go in the Sun or even come close . Superman Heat vision is more than enough to Hurt the Hulk . you might need to get facts from both sides. His freeze breathe is more than enough to Freeze and stop the HULK. Even Thor as well . We have even seen a comic where HUlk had to rescue Thor out of Ice knocked out in a Thermal suit. Superman Ice breathe is capable of freezing Intangible enemies yes ghosts. So HULk will get Hurt and damage . Dont bite in ever Hype unless you read the comic and not just scans or what people tell you. Even if you read respect threads get your facts and reason why and how its done. Hulk surviving there Temp doesnt meant it didnt hurt and in a fight against high level characters who uses Speed thinking / flight / strength along with these abilities Hulk stands less of chance to win. Recently just as he done in the past he used his heat vision to Labotomy style directed directly at the eyes from a strong character.

@termiteone4ever: Hulk survived jhonny storms super nova with little to no damage, he swam in lava in WWH and he can survive in space easily which is as close as you can get to absolute zero.